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primitive has parasites
« on: November 15, 2012, 10:47:07 AM »
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onecent (3,202 posts)   Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:49 AM

Been to a 3rd World Country, told i have parasites....has anyone had to deal with this problem, or know first hand about some of the problems surrounding this issue?

I have been sick since December 30th..and to start things off on the wrong foot I was exposed to my grandaughter's whooping cough (she was hospitalized and I kept her the night before....therefore they decided I had adult whooping couogh.

As time rolled on March, April and May doctors decided ...all the symptoms pointed to "Asthma"..which I do not have..nor do i respond to the alburteral breathing treatments or rescue inhalers.

In a ten month period I have had every test and seen Many DOCTORS and twice in the emergency room and ended up at Kansas University Hospitals seeing a pulmonary doctor...who was quite arrogant and rude.

Then my doctor decided to do a stool specimen...everything has changed...but am looking for more information. Or does anyone know of forums (that you can read and understand.) I found several forums but they are very user unfriendly to get around in and respond...etc.

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mopinko (39,160 posts)    Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:10 AM

1. wow. yuck.

not a clue, just a little sympathy.

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Warpy (65,533 posts)    Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:39 PM

2. "New Guinea Tapeworms and Jewish Grandmothers"

http://www.amazon.com/New-Guinea-Tapeworms-Jewish-Grandmothers/dp/0393304264 was my introduction to parasitology many years ago and it's still in print, probably used as an ancillary text here and there. The style is breezy and conversational and it's a good read.

As to specific lung based parasites, I can't tell you much, there are quite a few of them. I do know that parasitology as a specialty is more prevalent in population centers where there is a lot of immigration and world travel.

Finding which parasite is responsible for your symptoms can often lead to a cure or at least a treatment. A stool sample was a great place to start.

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onecent (3,202 posts)    Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:15 PM

4. I wish I had started there...it took 10 months before one of my son's from manila emailed me and told me he thought I probably had parasities. I am on ParaGONE...and various other things that my chiropractor (and my 2 chiro sons in Manila) recommended I take..and it's pretty grueling. I did not know parasites feel off of glucose..they LOVE SUGAR...SO the worst part of taking these supplements for 35 days is the fact I am so restricted in what I can have.

I also cannot have cheeses, milk products, wheat, sugar, alcohol, coffee (I have coffee) I cannot give up everything.

If this doesn't work when I am through I have been told to go back to the gastroenterologist that found what he "thought" was whooping cough debris in my reflux area. That is where I had a mass, for over 6 months that i kept coughing up and it kept hanging in there and I told my friends it felt like something was growing in side of me.

I thank all 3 of you for responding. DU certainly has some wonderful forums....and I am searching every where I can. Thanks for the kind words and I'll take any leftover prayers you all have.

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onecent (3,202 posts)    Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:30 PM

7. AFter reading your post, and thinking about that gastroenterologist, I think this might be a way to go..I went to Kansas University Hospitals (like a version of Mayo for KC) but the doctor was extremely rude..he was a pulmonary dr. However, I will check into this.

I cannot fly right now because my breathing is not quite right. The pills from my doctor (Flagyl) enabled me to take deep deep breaths again in October (When it happened I laughed and cried at the same time because I DID NOT realize how little oxygen and air I had been getting. I can still take DEEP breaths and I am AMAZED each time I do.

I still have the wheezing, and am hoping these supplements from Nature's pantry are going to do the job. Apparently they are very effective for many parasites, but according to the Clay County Health Dept. the parasite I have can be very resistant.

I just have to keep my mind from going to "visuals of what is going on inside of me" but so far I am just not going there, because I AM SO damn happy that my breathing has definitely improved.

I do seasonal work at the IRS and had to take a medical last year, and I am praying I will be able to work the entire time from around Feb 1st to May 15th. it sure helps the budget..and pays for my trip to go back to Manila. Which I plan to make one more trip to see my new grandson, but it will be my last as I am 67 years young..and don't enjoy traveling...would be more fun if I had someone to travel with..lol.

And this time I will be pumped full of whatever it is I need to keep the critters at bay.

You know, franksolich once had a bad case of intestinal parasites; a really bad bad bad case.

Before bothering an M.D. about it, though, I first did some research, in this case reading the diaries of a physician with the British army in Afghanistan during the 1840s, learning how he'd treated similar cases.

$1.28 invested in a bag of whole grain real brown rice, two 90-cent cans of pure beef gravy, and within 24 hours franksolich had deflated considerably, and less than 24 hours after that, was back to normal.

I had no idea the human body could contain so much pressurized gas; when it was time, I stood out in the middle of nowhere and let loose--for eleven minutes, uninterruptedly.

Damn.  I had no idea I had it in me.

Relief was immediate, but it took another day to get the strength back.

Making a visit to a physician so as to get doped up on pharmaceuticals unnecessary, of course.

Which is what the parasite-inflicted primitive is seeking, of course.  Drugs.
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 11:25:22 AM »
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4. I wish I had started there...it took 10 months before one of my son's from manila emailed me and told me he thought I probably had parasities.

Wasn't the democrat convention about 10 months ago?






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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 11:32:31 AM »
Metaphorically speaking, what the parasites have done to this primitive is what liberalism has done to the USA. 

Coincidence?  Hardly.

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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 11:38:50 AM »
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onecent (3,202 posts)   Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:49 AM

Been to a 3rd World Country, told i have parasites....has anyone had to deal with this problem, or know first hand about some of the problems surrounding this issue?

I have been sick since December 30th..and to start things off on the wrong foot I was exposed to my grandaughter's whooping cough (she was hospitalized and I kept her the night before....therefore they decided I had adult whooping couogh.

As time rolled on March, April and May doctors decided ...all the symptoms pointed to "Asthma"..which I do not have..nor do i respond to the alburteral breathing treatments or rescue inhalers.

In a ten month period I have had every test and seen Many DOCTORS and twice in the emergency room and ended up at Kansas University Hospitals seeing a pulmonary doctor...who was quite arrogant and rude.

Then my doctor decided to do a stool specimen...everything has changed...but am looking for more information. Or does anyone know of forums (that you can read and understand.) I found several forums but they are very user unfriendly to get around in and respond...etc.

Pretty soon the DUmmies won't have to leave home to go to a 3rd world country.
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 11:45:49 AM »
Wasn't the democrat convention about 10 months ago?

It took them ten months to email?  Maybe there's a reason for that! :thatsright:
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 11:47:36 AM »
Your parasites are the 99%. Just tell your body to do whatever they want to do.
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 11:56:49 AM »
This DUmpmonkey should run for his life.

The DUmp is infested with parasites from top to bottom.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 12:39:51 PM »
Pretty soon the DUmmies won't have to leave home to go to a 3rd world country.

This is no joking matter,  I had a boss that went to India the birth place of he and his wife for 2 weeks visit.   He returned and began to have problems just walking up and down stairs, he was a mess.     This boss had every test American doctors could do but no results.   Finally he found a Native born Indian doctor that recognised his symptoms and inquired of him if he had bathed in the Ganges.   Naturally he as a Hindu had done so.   Being a well educated man he had only gone ankle deep but some where on his body, a fly bite or something he stepped on barefoot had allowed in Paracites.

It took a few months to clear his body of those awful worms, -------You know when the puppy craps those yucky worms come out.

Chuck, you are so correct, with world wide travel and tourists, the infected people may not know they are infected, men or woman that use public toilets anywhere that do not wash their hands after a visit to a rest room may be depositing eggs on the door knobs etc.   So we who do wash our hands dry them then touch a door puller are or could be infected.

Then we have the all American Pin Worms that children often get.  Where the Hell do these come from ??????      Only knew one child in my life to get them and by golly what a mess. Same with head lice, this is a problem as from what I understand the lice only jump to clean hair, so children that shower every day are more likely to get head lice then a kid that bathes once a month.

Interesting observation for me on the MTA transit lines that stopped in front of the hospitals, all the workers headed home were wearing those thin latex gloves.  Also I notice more cashiers wearing these gloves, money is dirty, after a shift the gloves were black in spots.

Paracites inner or outer are a fact of life, be they worms in the gut, up in the hair or humans themselves they all do the same, survive off others.  

    

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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2012, 12:46:50 PM »
Finally he found a Native born Indian doctor that recognised his symptoms and inquired of him if he had bathed in the Ganges.   Naturally he as a Hindu had done so.

There's his first mistake. Who the hell bathes in one of the most polluted rivers on Earth? I know not to swim in the Savannah downstream from Plant Vogtle and SRS right across the river; he should be smart enough to figure out you don't bath in a cesspool of a river used as a latrine for sacred cows. Might be time to revisit that worn out tradition.
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2012, 12:48:59 PM »
Don't doctors normally ask if one has been to a turd world county? I know on just about every episode of House that is one of the questions they always seemed to ask while trying to figure out the mystery illness.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2012, 12:51:30 PM »
Don't doctors normally ask if one has been to a turd world county? I know on just about every episode of House that is one of the questions they always seemed to ask while trying to figure out the mystery illness.

You can take a doctor out of the 3rd world, but you can't take the 3rd world....well, you get it.  :popcorn:
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2012, 01:05:15 PM »
Yeah, not on my bucket list.  My ex kept trying to get me to go the Middle East. 

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mopinko (39,160 posts)    Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:10 AM

1. wow. yuck.


I don't think that was a very nice or kind thing to say. 

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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 03:04:57 PM »
So a parasite has parasites will wonders never cease?
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 03:55:12 PM »
I don't think that was a very nice or kind thing to say.

You know, growing up in the family I did, I was from a very young age aware that some people can be a pain in the ass to medical professionals.

Especially the sorts of people who really don't want to get well.

I'll bet just about every time a primitive approaches a physician, the physican inwardly groans, "Oh shit, not this again....."
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2012, 04:00:16 PM »
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You know, franksolich once had a bad case of intestinal parasites; a really bad bad bad case.

Before bothering an M.D. about it, though, I first did some research, in this case reading the diaries of a physician with the British army in Afghanistan during the 1840s, learning how he'd treated similar cases.

$1.28 invested in a bag of whole grain real brown rice, two 90-cent cans of pure beef gravy, and within 24 hours franksolich had deflated considerably, and less than 24 hours after that, was back to normal.

I had no idea the human body could contain so much pressurized gas; when it was time, I stood out in the middle of nowhere and let loose--for eleven minutes, uninterruptedly.

Damn.  I had no idea I had it in me.

Relief was immediate, but it took another day to get the strength back.




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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2012, 04:17:29 PM »
:panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

Now actually, it was a learning experience.

It was three years ago.  For a couple of days, I experienced excited bowels, which was extraordinary, because such a thing just doesn't happen.  It was confusing, but I thought it'd go away.

The third day, I happened to take a cat to the veterinary for a shot, and he mentioned parasites, a comment which I let go over my head.

By the fourth day, I was enormously bloated.  Look at my avatar, which is a photograph of franksolich taken this same summer, and add four inches onto that waistline.  That's what it was like; I was bloated.

Those of us who grew up in cattle country are familiar with the phenomenon of cattle bloated up like big balloons when they've dined on too-green alfalfa.  If one catches the problem soon enough, it can be resolved by suddenly jabbing some big sharp instrument into the side of the cow, releasing the gases.  But unfortunately it usually isn't caught soon enough, and the poor cow blows up like a balloon, ultimately exploding.

I happened to recall what the veterinary had said, and after consulting the diary of the long-ago English physician in Afghanistan, went to the grocery store in town and purchased a 24-ounce bag of whole grain brown rice, and two cans of pure beef gravy, to make the rice palatable.  I cooked the rice only half the recommended time, as I wanted it to remain hard.

I consumed this in three helpings over the next 24 hours.

The sixth night, I was out in the country when I abruptly sensed now was "the time."

When I got out of the car, the lighted electronic clock read "12:24" (a.m.).  I hurried into the abandoned field, and let loose.

Geezuz.  I swear, the volume of natural gas that spurted out would've heated a home for a whole winter.

When I got back to the car, the lighted electronic clock read "12:46" (a.m.); I figured I'd spent about half that time getting out to the field and then returning to the vehicle, and guessed I'd let loose a full eleven minutes.

Surprisingly, no damage to the underwear.

I was weak, considerably weak, and barely made it home.  I put down a lot of water and went to bed.

I must've been dehydrated, because I didn't have to get up to empty the bladder at all.

In the morning, I was still weak and trembly, but less so, and so I put down some more water.

By noon, it was as if it'd never happened, and the waistline had returned to its normal 34". 

No need to bother a physician about it at all.
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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2012, 04:18:06 PM »
Not only are the parasitic DUmmies full of foodstamp shit, their shit is full of shit.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2012, 05:15:35 PM »
So a parasite has parasites will wonders never cease?

"Primitive has parasites."  Ironic, really.

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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2012, 08:19:21 PM »
"Primitive has parasites."  Ironic, really.

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Sweet, sweet irony.

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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 08:46:09 PM »
So it started with whooping cough from his grandaughter.  Isn't that one of the immunizations kids get these days...... :thatsright: forgot that these are the type of people who believed Jenny McCarthy's teachings about vaccinations.

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Re: primitive has parasites
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2012, 01:53:46 PM »
What a bunch of parasites!
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2012, 07:52:37 AM »
What a bunch of parasites!

I read The Diary of a Midwife written in the mid 1700 by a woman living way up in Maine at the time. All the gossip of the day and her travels to attend to birthing. Horse back or on foot year round.  She tells of 5 churches in the area with no pastor as the former were run out of town for immoral actions with young women.   :lmao:
All the Pastors went to Boston to join in a new church called Unitarian.

One chapter was devoted to herbs to use against parasites, seems our ancestors were a very wormy bunch.  Some of the names of the herbs she used are unknown to us today, She was the doctor of the day for everything from treating infections to setting broken bones.   

Sad were her laments about difficult pregnancy's and a family with money would bring in a doctor from Boston, male naturally.  Story's of the Doctors that knew so little about child birth that for the modesty of the mother would not look under the sheet to watch or figure out what was wrong.  She has a few examples of these Doctors blind to the fact tore some baby's out literally in pieces.

There were some strange references to a natural wild growing plant she collected and gave to patents with unknown pain.   POT ?????

Today we know we can get paracites from feces of animals, we know to wash our hands before we eat.  She had to deal with things that came up day to day with no reason she knew of----- fast forward to 1950's.   Darn that was fun.

A company put out a tonic they named Father Johns.   This horrid elixir was shoved down the throat of kids if they had nightmares or a belly ache.  All this was blamed on worms.   That and the morning spoonfull of Cod Liver Oil were the worse part of waking up.

Today GMC has shelves of de worming products, seems the paracites are still around today.

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2012, 10:26:39 AM »
We deal with parasites every day.
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