Author Topic: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living  (Read 5803 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« on: September 30, 2012, 01:54:02 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11281618

Oh my.

Even though franksolich's infautation is dead, he still has a vested interest in the cbayer primitive.

I'm fascinated how two adults can possibly live in a space the size of an apartment-building dumb-waiter.

Quote
cbayer (111,873 posts)   Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:34 PM

The Joys of Simple Living: Water

A while back, I talked about doing a series on my and my husband's personal lifestyle. There was some interest shown by some members, so I thought I might start now.

For those that don't know, Starboard Tack is my husband, and I fully expect him to chime in.

I am hopeful that these threads will encourage others to share their experiences, ask questions and think about how they use resources and dispose of waste.

We live on a 43 foot sailboat. We do not have a slip and are rarely plugged into to the usual services (water, gas, electricity, curbside garbage).

I decided to start with water, because when it comes down to it, it is the most critical item.

The boat carries 150 gallons of water in two steel tanks. When we get the opportunity, we fill those tanks through a municipal supply. We were last on the mainland about 4 months ago, left with a full tank and have completely filled the tank only once since then (last week).

In between those times, we add water by filling 5-6 gallon containers, bringing them to the boat and topping off the tanks. This requires some physical work.

We also have a water maker (desalinator). It makes a little over a gallon an hour and is the source of most of our drinking water. It requires electrical power and can't be run constantly, of course, but we run it every other day or so and get a couple of gallons.

We have a salt water pump in the kitchen. This is great for rinsing and washing dishes, leaving only the final rinse for the fresh water. Soap doesn't get very "soapy" in salt water, but it works well enough for all but the worst dirty dishes.

We have an indoor and outdoor shower. Short, military type showers are the rule, and those only when needed. During this time of year, a swim in the ocean followed by a little soap and a freshwater rinse is really all we need.

The toilet flushes with salt water into a holding tank. We have a spigot on the outside that also pumps salt water if needed for a clean up on deck.

Laundry is mostly done on board with a very water efficient manual washer.

Overall, I figure we use on average less than 3 gallons a day of fresh water.

The bottom line for us is that water requires work and that makes you think about how much you are using. When people come to visit, they often reflexively turn on the tap and let her rip. Since the pump can be heard anywhere on the boat, this most often leads to me racing to wherever they are to explain why we can't do that. We have never had a guest who didn't get it right away and make changes in their usual habits.

Quote
Curmudgeoness (8,258 posts)   Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:21 PM

1. Fascinating to contemplate the difficulties just for water.

I live in a house with municipal water....all that I want whenever I want. But I still often think about how lucky I am and I am very conscious of the amount of water that I do use. This may be due to a week I spent at a mountain cabin that had no water supply. We also had to go down the road to get water, haul it up to the cabin, and realized just how much you can do with a gallon of water. First we would have a small pot for washing dishes and one for rinsing. The rinse water became the next dish washing water. The dirty dish water was used to flush the toilet when needed. I still remember this after more than 40 years.

I do not ever want to live without water coming from a faucet again, but I am still very conservative.

Quote
cbayer (111,873 posts)   Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:28 PM

2. Sounds like you learned early and well.

Seeing how far a gallon can go can be so enlightening. It's also enlightening to see how fast it can go down the drain if you just let it run.

I don't know how we make this a more universal lesson, but I wish people would pay more attention.

They certainly do in my home when I come running into the kitchen yelling "STOP!".

Thanks so much for adding your own experience, curmudgeons!

Quote
Curmudgeoness (8,258 posts)   Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:16 PM

8. You are right about how fast it goes down a drain.

I made my sensitive niece cry (unintentionally) when she did dishes at my house. She left the hot water run the whole time she was washing, and I did one of those "stop it" yells. I was especially shocked that she was a southern California born and raised kid, and that is one area that should be practicing water conservation, but obviously don't even think. She is living in Arizona now, and I bet that she still remembers the lessons she learned about saving water that day.

<<always keeps the hot water running while washing dishes.

<<water-heater's set to the highest possible level, whatever that is, near-boiling or something.

<<likes to have clean sanitary dishes. 

Quote
cbayer (111,873 posts)   Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:21 PM

9. Lol at the yell. I have had many a guest be the recipient at that.

I try to refrain when they are in the bathroom, but I swear I start to have an anxiety attack when I hear that pump running.

Kids don't know because they have never been taught and we have an obligation to let them know. Adults are harder. I know people that take several long showers a day. I just can't fathom it. Some of them even have pools, so I really don't get it.

We have a friend who bought a new house a couple of years ago. Some pool maintenance guy told her she needed to drain the entire pool and put new water in it. He gave her some bogus reasons which evaporated after doing a little research.

The day he showed up, we happened to be there and my husband met him at the door. He left without an argument, but I am sure he was mad about losing the deal. Seems criminal to me.

Quote
Curmudgeoness (8,258 posts)   Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:36 PM

11. That pool water is "stale". LOL.

What in the hell would anyone do with the water drained from a whole pool??? OMG.

The cbayer primitive's other half, who jams himself in there with her:

Quote
Starboard Tack (6,647 posts)   Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:52 PM

3. The problem with the wonderful faucet is what we do with it.

Nobody likes to haul water, but I must say there is something cathartic about it. I love to take long showers and wash the car or boat, but not every day. This map illustrates very well how we abuse our natural water resources.
http://chartsbin.com/view/1455

Note that the US and Canada both use more than 7 times the water per capita as the UK. Ironically, there are vast areas of the US suffering from severe droughts and it rains every other day in Britain. Begs the question "Why such a discrepancy?".
I think history has much to do with it. Britain, coming through two world wars, with the great depression in between and followed by several years of food rationing, was trained to be frugal across the board.

Meanwhile, in N. America, the post war period brought enormous prosperity, indoor plumbing became ubiquitous and electricity was cheap and fossil fuels were acceptable and seemingly inexhaustible.

This map shows consumption by percentage available. We use 15% of available water, yet parts of the country are in drought. This is partly due to draining huge aquifers that took millennia to fill and partly to do with redirecting river waters, but mostly due to human arrogance.
http://chartsbin.com/view/1473

Here's another link to what's going on in San Diego
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=24858

^^well, the oblate spheroid surely isn't causing any water shortage in San Diego.

The rich bitch the kpete primitive probably does, though; palatial Streisandian grounds take a lot of water.

Quote
Curmudgeoness (8,258 posts)   Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:30 PM

10. This country has always been blessed with a wealth of natural resources, including water in most of the country, and I believe that we just learned overconsumption. Everything we do it "over the top" in regard to consumption---house size, energy use, food, consumer products, etc.

The maps are interesting, but I am surprised about the Middle East countries (all those "stan"s) that are using more water per capita than the US. I also would need an explanation as to how a country like Saudi Arabia is able to use 943% of the available water resources. How do you use more that 100% of your resources?

Quote
Starboard Tack (6,647 posts)  Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:03 PM

12. Great question

I think they either import or desalinate a lot of sea water. Curacao and Aruba come to mind. I think the stans are using for agriculture and their distribution/irrigation methods are probably very inefficient.

Quote
abumbyanyothername (2,221 posts)  Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:32 AM
 
13. The house of Saud burns a lot of oil to desalinate water but I think that is going to end soon.

Quote
abumbyanyothername (2,221 posts)   Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:40 AM

15. Do you think it would be possible?

Having just come off a week on a boat . . . with 8,000 of my closest friends (the Oasis of the Seas) and while I was there reading The Transition Handbook (on energy descent), I got to thinking . . . .

Would it be possible to design a food, water, waste and energy self-sufficient floating living space (otherwise known as a boat)?

Not to knock your thread off course or anything.

Even on a luxury cruise, the space constraints and ingenuity applied in the face thereof, was pretty freaking amazing. Bathroom was a 2'x4' wonder and entire cabin was no more than 150'^2.

Quote
cbayer (111,873 posts)  Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:00 PM

16. Not exactly sure what you are asking, but, yes, it is quite possible to design and build your own boat. Also, because of the economy, there are a lot of boats on the market at some very good prices.

The efficiencies of a boat are amazing, and I will write more about that in other OP's. We use pretty much every inch of space.

^^I'll bet they do.

I'll bet if the cbayer primitive by accident purchases an extra egg, it crowds the kitchen.

Quote
abumbyanyothername (2,221 posts)   Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:17 PM

17. My question is really if you think it would be possible for a boat to be a little self-sufficient aqua-farm . . . floating along, providing all the food, water, energy and waste disposal that the boat's occupants need.

Quote
cbayer (111,873 posts)  Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:30 PM

18. We are coming very close to that. The biggest challenge is the farming aspect.

I grow tomatoes and basil. I could easily make sprouts and do make my own bread and (occasionally) cheese, but those need ingredients I can't grow.

I'm not a big fan of fish, but there is sure a plentiful supply and I would certainly eat it if there were few other options. There are also ways to harvest and use kelp and algae.

We have a friend who has built a floating garden that is attached to his boat. The problem comes when it is time to move somewhere, as he can't sail with it attached.

So, the answer is yes. We live most of the time by making our own energy and we take care of our waste (plastic is the primary problem for disposal). We make most of our own electricity, but we do use some diesel for both the engine and the generator, but could use less (or none at all) if we added more solar and wind.

We can go a couple of months without really tapping into the *system* for anything other than groceries.

^^just don't by accident buy an extra potato or wooden match-stick, lest one crowds the kitchen.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline Ballygrl

  • Lipstick Renegade
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14934
  • Reputation: +983/-120
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 01:58:51 PM »
That couldn't work for me, I take long hot showers.
Quote
"The nation that couldn’t be conquered by foreign enemies has been conquered by its elected officials" odawg Free Republic in reference to the GOP Elites who are no difference than the Democrats

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 02:04:01 PM »
That couldn't work for me, I take long hot showers.

I can't believe they actually think they get clean, taking dips into fish-infested waters.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline BEG

  • "Mile Marker"
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17277
  • Reputation: +1062/-301
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 02:13:44 PM »
My husband jokes that he would wash in my old bathwater to prove that he wouldn't love another.

I'm pretty sure he got the idea from the No Doubt song Bathwater.  :-)

[youtube=425,350]8k_g9hDeOic[/youtube]

Offline BlueStateSaint

  • Here I come to save the day, because I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32553
  • Reputation: +1560/-191
  • RIP FDNY Lt. Rich Nappi d. 4/16/12
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 02:21:13 PM »
My husband jokes that he would wash in my old bathwater to prove that he wouldn't love another.

I'm pretty sure he got the idea from the No Doubt song Bathwater.  :-)

[youtube=425,350]8k_g9hDeOic[/youtube]

:puke:  I had to end that one six seconds into it--I can't take Gwen Stefani much longer than that.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

Chase her.
Chase her even when she's yours.
That's the only way you'll be assured to never lose her.

Offline BEG

  • "Mile Marker"
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17277
  • Reputation: +1062/-301
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 03:16:36 PM »
:puke:  I had to end that one six seconds into it--I can't take Gwen Stefani much longer than that.

I like her in No Doubt, I couldn't stand her music once she went solo. I was disappointed that she delved into politics (although I was certain which side she was on). Her fundraiser she held with Michelle Obama did her in for me.

Offline Bad Dog

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5927
  • Reputation: +314/-313
  • God help me I do love it so
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 03:31:37 PM »
The primitive dosen't explain what they do with the waste in the holding tank.  With two people & say a thirty gallon tank I'm guessing it would need a pumpout every two weeks minimum.

Offline Delmar

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5295
  • Reputation: +592/-41
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 03:48:37 PM »
Quote
cbayer (111,879 posts)

The Joys of Simple Living: Water


 
A while back, I talked about doing a series on my and my husband's personal lifestyle. There was some interest shown by some members, so I thought I might start now.

For those that don't know, Starboard Tack is my husband, and I fully expect him to chime in.

I wonder if the part that I put in bold letters is a special message for somebody here?  I won't say who but his name rhymes with franksolich.

We will make America strong again. We will make America proud again. We will make America safe again. And we will make America great again.

Donald Trump

Offline Chris_

  • Little Lebowski Urban Achiever
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46845
  • Reputation: +2028/-266
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 04:12:24 PM »
:puke:  I had to end that one six seconds into it--I can't take Gwen Stefani much longer than that.
Can you catch herpes from used bathwater?

GS is not attractive.
If you want to worship an orange pile of garbage with a reckless disregard for everything, get on down to Arbys & try our loaded curly fries.

Offline 67 Rover

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6481
  • Reputation: +1719/-41
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 04:31:48 PM »
There is exactly the same amount of water here on Earth today as the day Earth was created, not a drop less and not a drop more.
NRA Benefactor member
G.O.A. Life member
G.O.A.L. Life member
Certified Law Enforcement Sig Armorer

Offline BlueStateSaint

  • Here I come to save the day, because I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32553
  • Reputation: +1560/-191
  • RIP FDNY Lt. Rich Nappi d. 4/16/12
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 04:38:33 PM »
Can you catch herpes from used bathwater?

GS is not attractive.

I suppose if the water temperature wasn't high enough, it would be possible.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

Chase her.
Chase her even when she's yours.
That's the only way you'll be assured to never lose her.

Offline Texacon

  • Super
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13073
  • Reputation: +1678/-55
  • All The Way!
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 06:20:10 PM »
The primitive dosen't explain what they do with the waste in the holding tank.  With two people & say a thirty gallon tank I'm guessing it would need a pumpout every two weeks minimum.

If they do what all the diving boats I've been on do ... They simply release it in the ocean.

KC
  Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day.  Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

*Stolen

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 06:26:50 PM »
If they do what all the diving boats I've been on do ... They simply release it in the ocean.

You know, with all that crowdedness, even if all the windows and doors are open, and they're at sea, it must really stink.

Ugh.

Until just last week, I used to envision the cbayer primitive and her English husband living in something about the size of one of those old two-decker Mississippi River steam-boats; it was a total shock to me when she betrayed that the boat's only 43' long, and has only 300 square feet of habitable [sic] space in it.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline I_B_Perky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7532
  • Reputation: +721/-329
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 07:18:24 PM »
The primitive dosen't explain what they do with the waste in the holding tank.  With two people & say a thirty gallon tank I'm guessing it would need a pumpout every two weeks minimum.

I bet when it gets full they do their business "over the rail".  Wouldn't surprise me if they don't dump the tank in the ocean either. Liberals, especially the dummy kind, feel entitled to do whatever they want.
Living in the Dummies minds rent free since 2009!

Montani Semper Liberi

Offline J P Sousa

  • We Built Our Business - IN SPITE OF GOVERNMENT
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Reputation: +310/-19
  • I love the smell of gun powder in the morning
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 07:49:19 PM »
You know, with all that crowdedness, even if all the windows and doors are open, and they're at sea, it must really stink.

Ugh.

Until just last week, I used to envision the cbayer primitive and her English husband living in something about the size of one of those old two-decker Mississippi River steam-boats; it was a total shock to me when she betrayed that the boat's only 43' long, and has only 300 square feet of habitable [sic] space in it.

You know, I was thinking the same thing. I worked with one of those "natural" people once and he wondered why there were so many bars of body soap in his locker.  :lmao:

.
John Wayne: "America Why I Love Her"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5ZGz7h0epU

Get Over It! We Are Not All Created Equal ~Capt Katie Petronio

Obama Wiretapped The Trump Tower...FACT

The reason there are so many stupid people is because it's illegal to kill them.
~John Wayne

Offline BattleHymn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8758
  • Reputation: +981/-63
  • Not right, but not left, either.
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 08:57:33 PM »
Quote
Curmudgeoness (8,258 posts)   Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:16 PM

I made my sensitive niece cry (unintentionally) when she did dishes at my house. She left the hot water run the whole time she was washing, and I did one of those "stop it" yells. I was especially shocked that she was a southern California born and raised kid, and that is one area that should be practicing water conservation, but obviously don't even think. She is living in Arizona now, and I bet that she still remembers the lessons she learned about saving water that day.

I'm sure she learned her lesson, but not the one you think she did.

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 07:35:41 AM »
You know, I was thinking the same thing. I worked with one of those "natural" people once and he wondered why there were so many bars of body soap in his locker.  :lmao:

When looking over to the river from the back porch last night, I began wondering if perhaps I should set up a crows'-nest to be on the lookout for a 43' boat cruising the Elkhorn River, and docking here at the hippie campsite.

I wonder if the cbayer primitive & hubby fly some sort of flag, or ensign.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline USA4ME

  • Evil Capitalist
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14835
  • Reputation: +2476/-76
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2012, 08:35:14 AM »
These "we care more about the earth than you do" posts are always underwhelming.  I wouldn't mind living on a boat for short bursts of time, but only if I could be sailing around the Caribbean while doing so.  I highly doubt these two are doing that or anything close.  If anyone knows where they drop anchor the majority of the time I'd like to know.

I had a good friend of mine who lived in Ft. Lauderdale and his parents and brother lived on 45' motor-driven boat.  They stayed docked in Lauderdale most of the time, but they also sailed over to Grand Bahama island (Freeport) and lived there for 4-5 years and would go to different islands and up and down the eastern seaboard, so they utilized their craft.

I notice the primitives didn't talk about how corrosive salt water is to piping on a boat.  They even talk about salt water being used in their sinks and crapper.  I don't care what kind of piping you have, salt water is eventually going to eat away your pipes.  Even if they only ran fresh water through them, being that close to the ocean will do the trick.  What they save in water they'll be making up in money and time spent having to do repairs, and all on a craft that's depreciating in value.  No one ever said primitives were bright creatures.

.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2012, 08:40:25 AM by USA4ME »
Because third world peasant labor is a good thing.

Offline BlueStateSaint

  • Here I come to save the day, because I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32553
  • Reputation: +1560/-191
  • RIP FDNY Lt. Rich Nappi d. 4/16/12
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 09:24:25 AM »
When looking over to the river from the back porch last night, I began wondering if perhaps I should set up a crows'-nest to be on the lookout for a 43' boat cruising the Elkhorn River, and docking here at the hippie campsite.

I wonder if the cbayer primitive & hubby fly some sort of flag, or ensign.

This one . . .



Or this one . . .



Or this one . . .

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

Chase her.
Chase her even when she's yours.
That's the only way you'll be assured to never lose her.

Offline Karin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17752
  • Reputation: +1895/-81
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2012, 09:32:55 AM »
How is she pulling flank steak out of a freezer, roasting it in an oven, and making apple crisp?  Doesn't this all require constant electricity for the freezer, and a full service kitchen?  I don't get it. 

Offline Wineslob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14480
  • Reputation: +816/-193
  • Sucking the life out of Liberty
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2012, 09:35:34 AM »
Quote
Curmudgeoness (8,258 posts)   Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:16 PM

I made my sensitive niece cry (unintentionally) when she did dishes at my house. She left the hot water run the whole time she was washing, and I did one of those "stop it" yells. I was especially shocked that she was a southern California born and raised kid, and that is one area that should be practicing water conservation, but obviously don't even think. She is living in Arizona now, and I bet that she still remembers the lessons she learned about saving water that day.


No, DUmbshit. People living in So Cal have NO CLUE about saving water. However we, who live in the areas where LA gets their water, are the ones forced and fined into water saving compliance.  :argh:
“The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced, if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”

        -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 BC (106-43 BC)

The unobtainable is unknown at Zombo.com



"Practice random violence and senseless acts of brutality"

If you want a gender neutral bathroom, go pee in the forest.

Offline GOBUCKS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24186
  • Reputation: +1812/-339
  • All in all, not bad, not bad at all
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2012, 09:51:37 AM »
How is she pulling flank steak out of a freezer, roasting it in an oven, and making apple crisp?  Doesn't this all require constant electricity for the freezer, and a full service kitchen?  I don't get it. 
You're forgetting that cbayer the thread slayer is a DUmmy, and DUmmies lie all the time.

There is no place where that theorem is more reliable than the cooking group.

None of those exotic foreign-language recipes they brag about have ever been prepared by a female DUmpmonkey.

(Nor have the simpler ones like the thread slayer's flank steak and apple crisp.)

Offline Wineslob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14480
  • Reputation: +816/-193
  • Sucking the life out of Liberty
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2012, 01:04:32 PM »
How is she pulling flank steak out of a freezer, roasting it in an oven, and making apple crisp?  Doesn't this all require constant electricity for the freezer, and a full service kitchen?  I don't get it. 

Solar, it's the answer to everything.    :whatever:
“The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced, if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”

        -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 BC (106-43 BC)

The unobtainable is unknown at Zombo.com



"Practice random violence and senseless acts of brutality"

If you want a gender neutral bathroom, go pee in the forest.

Offline Chris_

  • Little Lebowski Urban Achiever
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46845
  • Reputation: +2028/-266
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2012, 01:14:12 PM »
I wonder if that boat has a gas generator. 

Not very "green"
If you want to worship an orange pile of garbage with a reckless disregard for everything, get on down to Arbys & try our loaded curly fries.

Offline GOBUCKS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24186
  • Reputation: +1812/-339
  • All in all, not bad, not bad at all
Re: cbayer primitive explains the joys of simple living
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2012, 03:46:37 PM »
I think it's hilarious that DUmmy cbayer the thread slayer rushed a response to our speculation about her eye-stinging body odor.

Then she confirmed that personal hygiene is impossible aboard her tiny boat due to severely limited fresh water.

If you live in a vehicle, whether it's a little boat, a little humpbacked travel trailer, or a 1986 Buick, you're gonna smell really bad.