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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2008, 06:15:43 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 25, 2008, 06:01:23 PM
^yes. There is an ESOL teacher who sits in the classroom all day. It's her job to stand over the ESOL kids and translate the main teacher's lesson plan. It's annoying as heck. Can you imagine 21 fidgety fourth graders having to pause for the ESOL teacher to explain to her little students? No wonder the teacher only makes them do all of the odd numbered questions instead of every single one. She's too tired/busy to grade things! I swear, I'm going to go private next year if I can!

I seem to remember doing odd numbered problems.  as I recall, that was because the answers to the even numbered ones were in the back of the book. :-)

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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2008, 06:32:37 PM »
Wanting to have you kids educated is racist.
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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2008, 06:35:48 PM »
Quote from: jukin on May 25, 2008, 06:32:37 PM
Wanting to have you kids educated is racist.

your AV is hilarious. :-)
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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2008, 07:15:15 PM »
^LOL jukin! I love your AV too. All that's missing is a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20.
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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2008, 07:15:36 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on May 25, 2008, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 25, 2008, 06:01:23 PM
^yes. There is an ESOL teacher who sits in the classroom all day. It's her job to stand over the ESOL kids and translate the main teacher's lesson plan. It's annoying as heck. Can you imagine 21 fidgety fourth graders having to pause for the ESOL teacher to explain to her little students? No wonder the teacher only makes them do all of the odd numbered questions instead of every single one. She's too tired/busy to grade things! I swear, I'm going to go private next year if I can!

I seem to remember doing odd numbered problems.  as I recall, that was because the answers to the even numbered ones were in the back of the book. :-)



I seem to remember doing the exact opposite . . . different textbooks.  All the odd numbered problems' answers were in the back of our books . . .
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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2008, 03:28:55 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 25, 2008, 05:54:49 PM
I'd be happy to find the one that doesn't require an ESOL teacher. Oooh, did I say that outloud? I don't have a problem with ESOL students. I do have a problem with mainstreaming them and causing the teacher to slash her lessons in about half. My son has had little homework this year and he tells me she spends a lot of time clarifying the lessons for the ones who don't understand a word of English.

I'm gonna butt in here for a sec, Dixie.

The theory behind having ESOL/ELL students being mainstreamed is that children usually learn a language faster and with greater competence if they are in an immersion environment. However, this is usually only the case with very young children, I'd guess under age 10 or so. Around here there are lots of language immersion schools, and they are quite popular and very highly regarded.

That being said, the whole situation is lose/lose. The ESOL/ELL kids are struggling even with help, and the kids who are native English speakers aren't getting the education they deserve. The teacher is being forced to modify her lessons to compensate for the kids whose grasp of English is poor at best, and everyone is losing out.

As for only doing odd or even questions...the answers are usually in the back for at least one set! But shhhh...don't tell the kids!  :-)
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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2008, 05:32:32 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 25, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
^LOL jukin! I love your AV too. All that's missing is a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20.

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Re: San Diego County Workers may be excused from performing same-sex weddings
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2008, 07:15:55 PM »
Quote from: VivisMom on May 26, 2008, 03:28:55 PM
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 25, 2008, 05:54:49 PM
I'd be happy to find the one that doesn't require an ESOL teacher. Oooh, did I say that outloud? I don't have a problem with ESOL students. I do have a problem with mainstreaming them and causing the teacher to slash her lessons in about half. My son has had little homework this year and he tells me she spends a lot of time clarifying the lessons for the ones who don't understand a word of English.

I'm gonna butt in here for a sec, Dixie.

The theory behind having ESOL/ELL students being mainstreamed is that children usually learn a language faster and with greater competence if they are in an immersion environment. However, this is usually only the case with very young children, I'd guess under age 10 or so. Around here there are lots of language immersion schools, and they are quite popular and very highly regarded.

That being said, the whole situation is lose/lose. The ESOL/ELL kids are struggling even with help, and the kids who are native English speakers aren't getting the education they deserve. The teacher is being forced to modify her lessons to compensate for the kids whose grasp of English is poor at best, and everyone is losing out.

As for only doing odd or even questions...the answers are usually in the back for at least one set! But shhhh...don't tell the kids!  :-)
I don't blame the kids. In fact, I feel for them. It has to be hard to come to this country in be put in a fourth grade class not knowing a lick of English.

I checked for the answers in his books thinking that was the reason. No answers! She's just doing it for simplicity and to save time.
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