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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2012, 06:35:03 PM »
On the SECOND tiebreaker.  And again, whose fault is that?

Of course, you conveniently forget that the following year they finish 10-6, but make the playoffs.  Seems to me they also finished 10-6 in 2005 and made the playoffs then...oh, who was it they lost to, who could that have possibly been???

Uh, the OTHER teams, opponents, and just general things like "Gosh the NFC sucks this year" type of happenings would have something to do with the league's overall W/L final tally, and who gets tapped to go forward to the real season.    

You want to break down 2008 for fun?  



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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2012, 06:36:15 PM »
Seems to me Cassel did better still in KC--IIRC, he didn't make the Pro Bowl as a member of the Pats.

Cassel did a great job in 2008, and deserved to be a starter.  He never would have been had he stayed in Foxboro.   He is, and always will be, a fan favorite here.

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2012, 10:55:30 PM »
Every one you mentioned is either HOF, or will be first ballot HOF. That said It'd be hard to beat Joe Montana, although his replacement Steve Young was no slouch.

Who was Joe Montana's backup FL asked as a trivia question ? This was covered in post number 50.

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #78 on: September 02, 2012, 05:44:05 AM »
Who was Joe Montana's backup FL asked as a trivia question ? This was covered in post number 50.

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Yes it was.   My apologies.    My question however was more to the point that Young would have filled Montana's shoes and pulled off a SB win had Montana gone down.    That definitely would not have happened if Brady went down.   

I have been extremely hard on Brady the past few years, so the fact I am defending him right now to this level shows how optimistic I am for this season (this is a self-reflection moment and nothing else).

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2012, 08:49:09 AM »
Why did I not enter this thread earlier? I actually life the Pats, but I find the girly pic absolutely hilarious.  :lmao: You're bad, Sparky.

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #80 on: September 02, 2012, 11:08:40 AM »
Why did I not enter this thread earlier? I actually life the Pats, but I find the girly pic absolutely hilarious.  :lmao: You're bad, Sparky.

I always like Patriot Pat he was a tripod man,  a tripod.    :rotf: :rotf:



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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #81 on: September 02, 2012, 12:53:40 PM »
I always like Patriot Pat he was a tripod man,  a tripod.    :rotf: :rotf:


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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #82 on: September 03, 2012, 09:46:19 PM »


Jerry Rice ain't got nada nothin' on Deion Branch baby.   Word.

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2012, 09:49:03 PM »
Light, Mankins.   

The change over has been tremendous.   I love all those guys don't get me wrong.   However you have to give Brady his due.

Right after you give Eli his due.
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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #84 on: September 03, 2012, 09:52:16 PM »


Jerry Rice ain't got nada nothin' on Deion Branch baby.   Word.





I really, really hope you're joking....

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2012, 09:52:39 PM »
Yes it was.   My apologies.    My question however was more to the point that Young would have filled Montana's shoes and pulled off a SB win had Montana gone down.    That definitely would not have happened if Brady went down.   

I have been extremely hard on Brady the past few years, so the fact I am defending him right now to this level shows how optimistic I am for this season (this is a self-reflection moment and nothing else).

Go Pats!!

Quick question, since you're hellbent on trashing Eli and don't want to give him ANY credit, who was Eli's backup?
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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2012, 09:53:55 PM »
Quick question, since you're hellbent on trashing Eli and don't want to give him ANY credit, who was Eli's backup?

Oh, pick me, I THINK I know without even looking.

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2012, 05:48:20 AM »
Quick question, since you're hellbent on trashing Eli and don't want to give him ANY credit, who was Eli's backup?

Eli isn't the reason why they won the SB, so it doesn't matter does it?


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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2012, 05:49:22 AM »
Did you honestly just post this?

Yes I did - if you follow the thread you will know why I did, and that it is sarcasm to Sparky's posts.


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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2012, 05:50:21 AM »
Right after you give Eli his due.

Hmmm, I did say he played well in the second SB.   HOF well?  MVP well? 

Yeah, no.

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2012, 07:59:03 AM »
Eli isn't the reason why they won the SB, so it doesn't matter does it?



Neither is Tom Brady as an NFL game, like any other football game, is a team event. BTW, who was it throwing those passes for the Giants? I could have sworn it was Eli. I don't think they landed in those receivers' hands by divine providence.
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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2012, 08:01:00 AM »
Hmmm, I did say he played well in the second SB.   HOF well?  MVP well?  

Yeah, no.

Anyone that doesn't think Eli WILL be in the Hall of Fame doesn't know much about football or the history of the NFL.

2× Pro Bowl (2008, 2011)
2× Super Bowl champion (XLII, XLVI)
2× Super Bowl MVP (XLII, XLVI)
2× NFC Champion (2007, 2011)
NFL Record most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15)
Tied NFL Record longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards)
NFL Record most road playoff wins by a quarterback (5)
Tied NFL Record most game-winning drives in a season (8)
Most road wins in a single regular season and postseason by a starting quarterback (10)
Most passing yards in a single postseason (1219 yards)

Pass attempts    3,921
Pass completions    2,291
Percentage    58.4
TD–INT    185–129
Passing yards    27,579
QB Rating    82.1

Broken down:

 Professional

    2011: Super Bowl XLVI Most Valuable Player[109]
    2007: Super Bowl XLII Most Valuable Player[110]
    2008: November NFC Offensive Player of the Month[111]
    2009/2011: 2× Pro Bowl Selection[79]
    2011: NFL Record most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15)
    2011: Tied NFL Record for longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards)
    Holds NFL Record for most road playoff wins (5)[112]
    Most passing yards in a single postseason (1219 yards, 2011)
    Super Bowl XLVI: Most consecutive completions to begin a Super Bowl (9)
    Active leader for most consecutive starts by a National Football League quarterback (119, 3rd all-time)

NFL records

    Most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15 in 2011)
    Tied NFL Record longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards in 2011)
    Most road playoff wins by a quarterback (5)
    Tied NFL Record most game-winning drives in a season (8 in 2011)
    Most road wins in a single regular season and postseason by a starting quarterback (10)
    Most passing yards in a single postseason (1,219 yards in 2011)

Giants franchise records

    Most passing attempts (season): 589 (2011)
    Most completions (season): 359 (2011)
    Most passing yards (season): 4,933 (2011)
    Longest completed pass: 99 yards (2011)
    Most interceptions thrown (season): 25 (2010), tied
    Most 4th quarter touchdown passes, season: 15 (NFL record)
    Most consecutive starts by a quarterback: 119
    Most consecutive pass completions, game: 21 (2011)
    Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (season): 5 (2007, 2011), tied
    Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (season): 6 (2007, 2011)
    Most career playoff touchdowns: 13 (2011)

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2012, 05:57:06 PM »
HOF QB stats look like this:

Career highlights and awards
7× Pro Bowl (2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011)
2× First-team All-Pro (2007, 2010)
1× Second-team All-Pro (2005)
3× Super Bowl champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX)
2× Super Bowl MVP (XXXVI, XXXVIII)
5× AFC Champion (2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2011)
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (2005)
Sporting News Sportsman of the Year (2004, 2007)
AP Male Athlete of the Year (2007)
2× AP NFL MVP (2007, 2010)
2× AP NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010)
3× AFC Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010, 2011)
NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2009)
New England Patriots All-time leader
(Passing touchdowns)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
Career NFL statistics as of Week 17, 2011
Pass attempts   5,321
Pass completions   3,397
Percentage   63.8
TD–INT   300–115
Passing yards   39,979
QB Rating   96.4
Stats at NFL.com

Throughout his 12 professional seasons, Tom Brady has had many opportunities to set NFL records. 

Brady was the quickest QB to reach 100 wins in his career and holds the NFL record for most touchdowns during a regular season with 50 during the Patriots' perfect regular season in 2007. Brady also holds the record for pass-interception differential at 42.

Brady holds multiple postseason records, including the highest completion percentage for a single game connecting on 92.9 percent of his passes in the 2007 AFC divisional round.

In Super Bowl XLII, Brady set an NFL record having attempted 48 throws without an interception. 

Brady also holds the most completions in Super Bowl games with 100.

Throughout his career in the New England area, Tom Brady has generated almost 40,000 yards, 300 touchdowns and a QB rating of 96.4. 

The 2011 season was statistically one of Brady's best years yet, throwing for 5,235 yards, 39 touchdowns and a rating of 105.6.

A career 63.8 completion percentage, Brady has completed 3,397 passes on 5,321 attempts while only throwing 115 interceptions. 

Tom Brady holds a career record of 124 wins and 35 losses, including a postseason record of 16 wins and five losses.

In Tom Brady's first three appearances into the postseason, he went 9-0 with three Super Bowl rings. 

His first postseason lost didn't come until his fourth appearance in the playoffs.

Brady has three playoff comeback victories, as well as six game-winning drives.

When mentioning other quarterbacks in the past decade, none of them can compare to Brady's postseason career. 

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Career Highlights
GP/GS (Playoffs): 145/143 (19/19)

Brady's overall record is 125-37 (.772) in regular-season and playoff games. It is the best record of any NFL quarterback in the Super Bowl Era (since 1966) with at least 100 starts.
Brady is 14-5 (.773) in the playoffs, the third best in NFL history behind Bart Starr (9-1, .900) and Ben Roethlisberger (10-2). His 14 total playoff wins are tied for the second most in NFL history behind Joe Montana (16).
Brady's touchdown-to-interception ratio (2.53) is the best in NFL history among all players with 2,000 or more passing attempts.
Brady has been elected to the Prow Bowl six times in his career (2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010).
Had a streak of 335 consecutive pass attempts without an interception to set an NFL record, eclipsing Bernie Kosar's record of 308 pass attempts without an interception.
In 2010, Brady set career records for touchdown-to-interception ratio (9.0) and interception percentage (0.8), throwing only four interceptions  on 492 pass attempts in the regular season.
In 2007, Brady was named the NFL's Most Valuable Player, setting all-time NFL records for most touchdown passes in a season (50), highest touchdown-interception differential (+42), most games with three or more touchdown passes (12), most touchdown passes in a month (20 in October 2007), and highest completion percentage in a game (92.9 percent on Jan. 12, 2008). Brady's 117.2 passer rating in 2007 was the second highest of all-time, while his 4,806 passing yards were the third highest single-season total in league history.
In addition to the NFL records Brady set in 2007, he also set Patriots franchise records for highest completion percentage in a season (68.9 percent), most passing yards in a season (4,806), highest passer rating in a season (117.2), highest passer rating in a game (158.3 on Oct. 21, 2007), lowest interception percentage in a season (1.4 percent) and most touchdown passes in a game (6 on Oct. 21, 2007).
In 2007, Brady contributed to the Patriots' establishment of several NFL single-season team records, including most points scored in a season (589), largest point differential in a season (+315) and most touchdowns in a season (75). The Patriots became the first team in NFL history to complete a 16-0 regular season and tied the league's single-season mark with 18 overall victories.
Brady and receiver Randy Moss set an NFL single-season record in 2007 for most touchdown passes between a passer and a receiver (23), with Moss' 23 touchdown catches also setting a league record.
Brady won 76 of his first 100 regular season starts, tying Roger Staubach's mark for most victories by a quarterback in his first 100 starts during the Super Bowl Era (since 1966).
Brady is the only quarterback in NFL history to start and win three Super Bowls before his 28th birthday, having quarterbacked the Patriots to victories in Super Bowl XXXVI when he was 24 years old, Super Bowl XXXVIII (26) and Super Bowl XXXIX (27).
Brady is the fourth quarterback in NFL history to lead his team to three or more Super Bowl wins, joining Terry Bradshaw (4), Joe Montana (4) and Troy Aikman (3).
Brady owns two Pete Rozelle Awards as Super Bowl MVP (XXXVI and XXXVIII). He is just the fourth player in Super Bowl history to earn multiple MVP awards, joining Joe Montana (3), Terry Bradshaw (2) and Bart Starr (2), all three of whom are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Brady has orchestrated 31 game-winning drives to break a tie or take the lead in the fourth quarter or overtime. Six of his game-winning efforts have come in the postseason, where he has played in 19 games.
Brady led a game-winning drive to break a tie or take the lead in the fourth quarter of each of the Patriots' three Super Bowl victories, becoming the only quarterback in NFL history to lead three such game-winning drives in the Super Bowl.
Brady tied an NFL record in 2005 by distributing his 26 touchdown passes to 12 different players. The only other NFL player to accomplish the feat was Brad Johnson in 2003.
Brady is tied with Drew Brees (Super Bowl XLIV) for the Super Bowl record for pass completions in a game, connecting on 32 passes in Super Bowl XXXVIII.
Brady won his first 10 playoff games, setting an NFL record for the most consecutive playoff wins.
Brady has been voted an offensive co-captain by his teammates for the last 9 seasons (2002-2010).
Brady led the NFL with 28 touchdown passes in 2002 and became the first Patriot to lead the league in touchdown passes since Steve Grogan shared the lead with Cleveland's Brian Sipe (28) in 1979.
Brady threw at least two touchdown passes in each of the first five games of the 2002 season, the first Patriot to accomplish that feat and the first Patriot to throw for at least two touchdowns in five straight games in a single season  since Butch Songin (10/23/60—11/18/60).
Brady (24 years, 184 days old) was voted MVP of Super Bowl XXXVI and was the third-youngest player to earn the honor (Marcus Allen, 23 years and 301 days at Super Bowl XVIII and Lynn Swann, 23 years, 316 days at Super Bowl X).
Brady was voted to the 2001 Pro Bowl and became just the second Patriots quarterback to receive the honor (Drew Bledsoe, 1994, 1996 and 1997). He also became just the fifth quarterback since 1970 to be voted to the Pro Bowl in his first year as a starter, joining Dan Marino (1983), Brett Favre (1992), Kurt Warner (1999) and Daunte Culpepper (2000).
Brady threw for 53 yards on the Patriots' game-winning drive in Super Bowl XXXVI, completing five of his eight passes. Two of his pass attempts were spiked to kill the game clock. With just 1:21 remaining, he moved the Patriots into field goal position without the benefit of timeouts.
Brady completed over 70 percent of his passes in four consecutive games during the 2001 season and joined an exclusive club of quarterbacks who accomplished the feat. He joined Joe Montana (8 games, 1989), Troy Aikman (4, 1995), Steve Young (4, 1993) and Sammy Baugh (4, 1945).
Brady completed the first 162 passes of his career  without an interception. It was the longest streak to start a career in NFL history and ranks third for most attempts without an interception in Patriots franchise history.

http://archive.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=566

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http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2012, 06:09:52 PM »
Neither is Tom Brady as an NFL game, like any other football game, is a team event. BTW, who was it throwing those passes for the Giants? I could have sworn it was Eli. I don't think they landed in those receivers' hands by divine providence.

QBs win games, and even SBs, in the NFL every single season.  That doesn't make them HOF or even MVP caliber. 

Just saying.


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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #94 on: September 04, 2012, 06:48:04 PM »
QBs win games, and even SBs, in the NFL every single season.  That doesn't make them HOF or even MVP caliber.  

Just saying.


Without looking I would guess just about every quarterback to ever win a super bowl was elected to the Hall of Fame in Canton Ohio. Of course there are probably a lot of non super bowl winning QBs that have won election to the HOF.

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Super Bowl XI: Ken Stabler, Oakland Raiders
Super Bowl XV: Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders
Super Bowl XVII: Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins
Super Bowl XVIII: Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders
Super Bowl XX: Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears
Super Bowl XXI: Phil Simms, New York Giants
Super Bowl XXII: Doug Williams, Washington Redskins
Super Bowl XXV: Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants
Super Bowl XXVI: Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins

Plunkett and Theismann should be, the rest I wouldn't complain if they were elected.
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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2012, 08:27:59 AM »
No one is SAYING Brady isn't going to get into the HOF nor are they saying he sucks as a QB. It is you that is saying that Eli sucks and that essentially nothing can be attributed to him, and in addition he'll never be in the HOF. I'm saying you don't know as much about football as you think other than sitting in front of the tube for something to do if you believe that and probably couldn't tell the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4 defense or know the difference between a west coast offense and the pistol.
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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2012, 11:26:25 AM »
I am saying Eli ain't all that and a bag of chips.

History won't prove me wrong.


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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #97 on: September 05, 2012, 12:24:48 PM »
I am saying Eli ain't all that and a bag of chips.

History won't prove me wrong.



History has already proven you wrong.




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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #98 on: September 05, 2012, 12:26:55 PM »
BTW, see the "C" on his uniform?




That means he's a captain, a leader. On top of that, he's their quarterback. He's the driver of that offense. The offense that is 2-0 over your boy in Superbowls.
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Re: New England Patriots 2012 Season Thread
« Reply #99 on: September 05, 2012, 12:33:01 PM »
The first SB win year (and years prior to that, and an argument can be made to last year) the entire NY/NJ/Southern CT region were calling for Eli's "MVP - OMG ELI ELI ELI" head on a platter.   He sucked on a large scale level.

The final games of the season a light was struck under his ass and then the Pats played them and shoved them onto a momentum swing because they sat their starters for the most part during that game.   The Giants shouldn't have even been in the playoffs.

The sucking part?   Yeah, you will have to point me to the season where that could be applied to Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,  Marino and all of the other amazing QBs in NFL history.  

Revisionist history for Eli is the only way that boy is getting into the HOF.