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Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« on: August 20, 2012, 11:49:01 PM »
Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
http://abcnews.go.com/US/kentucky-teen-sexually-assaulted-threatened-jail-time/story?id=17005633#.UDMTQ2z0e-U

The charges against her had been dropped.
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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 06:10:52 PM »
Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
http://abcnews.go.com/US/kentucky-teen-sexually-assaulted-threatened-jail-time/story?id=17005633#.UDMTQ2z0e-U

The charges against her had been dropped.


I have read this story twice and have come to at least one conclusion, the author is totally biased.  According to her everything that happened was the boys fault.  The message I get is that the girl bears no responsibility for anything that happened.  But in all fairness the author is a woman so I would expect a one sided view of this type of incident.
Before the ladies on the forum come after me with pitchforks and torches let me clarify something.  I think that what the boys did was despicable and that their parents have failed to teach them the difference between right and wrong. There is an old saying that “boys will be boys” but I think this incident goes far beyond that.  They have broken the law and should be punished for what they did.  However, I feel the charge of sexual assault is not warranted. Admittedly I am not the judge and neither have I read the law pertaining to this charge but according to the article no assault took place.  The girl was not raped, beaten or otherwise harmed in any way. She should be thankful she wasn't gang raped. If this incident would have happened at a different venue she could have easily been raped, or worse. We read about it everyday. Also the story does not say who removed the girls’ clothing. She admits that she was falling down drunk, perhaps she removed her own clothing and all the boys did was take photos of her.  Since this is a juvenile case the records have been sealed we may never know what really happened. :bs:

As for the girls part in this I think she has to share some of the responsibility for what happened to her.  Did she somehow deserve what happened to her?  No, of course not.  Nobody deserves to be taken advantage of while they are incapacitated, even if it was their own fault.  That being said nobody held her down and poured alcohol down her throat, that was all her doing.  There is definitely a lesson she can learn from this.  You never purposely leave yourself totally vulnerable and at the mercy of others, for any reason.  I hope she has learned this lesson even if it was the hard way. It is obvious to me that this young lady has some issues, and just like the boys involved she has some gaps in her upbringing. I would suggest that her parents sit down with her and have a long talk about personal responsibility.  The article states that the boy’s punishment will stay secret because they are juveniles, yet the girl states that she feels that the boys had received less than the minimal punishment and that they were manipulating the system to silence her. If court records were sealed on this case I don’t know how she would know all of this, I suppose since she is the plaintiff she probably has access to the information.  :???:

In another demonstration of how irresponsible she is, she like many teenagers went to Twitter and ran her mouth about the case.  She said she knew she would be held in contempt of court and could serve some jail time, but she did it anyway. Anyone believe she was actually going to go to jail? Didn’t think so.  As if this weren’t enough she listed the boys’ names and said they had sexually assaulted her.  Now I haven’t read the court transcripts but there is no mention of a sexual assault anywhere in the article, nor had she made any mention of it until she made the comment on Twitter. It really makes me wonder if she is telling the truth about anything that happened to her.  I’ll go one step further. Along with being an irresponsible drunk, she’s a liar too. :banghead:

The boy’s lawyer immediately slapped her with a contempt motion.  If found guilty she could serve as much as 180 days, nobody thought that was going to happen.  True to form she immediately went into a poor me routine in order to garner as much sympathy as possible. The boy’s attorneys said they never intended to have her jailed, they just wanted the judge to force her to delete the tweet she had made and to stop her from posting more of the same.  :whatever:

Not to be outdone the girl then started an online petition to have the contempt charges dropped.  The petition of course went viral and received 50,000 signatures in 24 hours.  The boy’s lawyers withdrew the contempt motion but not before there was a huge backlash against the two boys. Their lives have not been the same since. They have received threats, anonymous letters, calls from people calling them rapists and the list goes on. At this time if I were either of the boy’s parents I would have fired their attorney’s for not having any balls. The girl involved had earlier whined about how she felt that there was no justice.  I would like to ask her, the way the boys are being treated now, is this justice?  Personally I don’t think it is.  I am sure she wouldn’t agree. :censored: 

Finally, let me summarize.(some of you are probably thinking Thank God) The conclusion reached by the author of the news article I have been referring to is that the total blame for this entire incident falls squarely at the feet of the two boys.  The girl on the other hand is totally blameless and is being held up as some sort of first amendment hero for tweeting lies about the two boys, which in my opinion is total bullshit.  The boys did what they did and I am not going to defend them, they will face the consequences of their actions.  On the other hand if the girl would have demonstrated some personal responsibility and not have gotten falling down drunk and passed out, none of this would have happened in the first place.The final injustice in my opinion is when she went to Twitter, a site that is read by literally tens of thousands of people, and posted outright lies about the two boys, saying that they had sexually assaulted her, which would be considered libelous in any court. She then sealed their fate by posting their names. And finally as if all of this were not enough she has had no charges filed against her and has not been punished in any way. Justice you say?  :thatsright:

The two boys have been charged with a crime, how come she hasn’t been charged with committing libel? it’s a crime.  We all know the reason, it’s because she’s a woman, and women are always considered guiltless anytime this sort of thing happens, regardless of the facts. Have any of you watched Cops?  I used to watch it all the time until I got tired of watching Cops beat the hell out of people for no reason,but I digress.  One thing you do notice is that time after time when officers are called to handle a domestic dispute it’s always the man who goes to jail. The man could be standing there with blood dripping from his ears his nose and his mouth, while the woman has a little scratch on her arm, who do you think is going to jail ?  You guessed it, the man, almost 100% of the time.  This example is not meant as a slam against women; quite the contrary. It is intended to show the bias that is ingrained into our justice system.  :fuelfire:     

If I were the parent of either of these boys I would hire a new lawyer and file charges against the girl for liable. I would have her drunken, lying, tweeting, libeless ass dragged into court where she would have the opportunity to tell her side of the story to the judge.  Perhaps with a little luck she would finally find out what real justice is.   :rant:     


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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 06:25:36 PM »
It's only liable if her statements are proven to be untrue and that actual damages can be proven.
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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 06:27:55 PM »
Both her parents and the parents of the young men in question have failed to properly raise their children and monitor their activities.

IMO.
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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 06:29:28 PM »
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The two boys confessed to felony sexual abuse and misdemeanor voyeurism,

They confessed so they knew what they did was wrong.  Of course they were probably drunk as well.
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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 07:35:38 PM »
It's only liable if her statements are proven to be untrue and that actual damages can be proven.

I am aware of that, but thanks for the observation. :tongue:


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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 07:38:12 PM »
Both her parents and the parents of the young men in question have failed to properly raise their children and monitor their activities.

IMO.

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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 07:51:25 PM »
They confessed so they knew what they did was wrong.  Of course they were probably drunk as well.

I read that but we don't have the details of what that entails, I think I mentioned that. They could have been drunk as well, it wouldn't surprise me. Sexual abuse can be a pretty wide brush in some states so we don't know exactly what they did.. Don't misunderstand me, I am not defending these guys. I am saying that there were two parties involved, one was found guilty and will be punished. But what the other one did was not even looked at, and IMHO it was because of what took place and the fact that she is a woman. We can deny it all we want but there is bias in our justice system, and not just for women. It is often glaringly obvious.


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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 08:10:42 PM »
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"It's not possible," she said. "I'm really insecure about my body a lot and there is no way possible I would have taken off my clothes and let them see-- take a picture."

https://www.facebook.com/Freedom4Savannah  She doesn't look like she is very shy about her body.  She is continuing to make comments on Facebook about the case.

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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 09:10:10 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/Freedom4Savannah  She doesn't look like she is very shy about her body.  She is continuing to make comments on Facebook about the case.

She's a liar, it's pretty obvious. She also has a huge victim mentality.


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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2012, 09:34:32 PM »
She's a liar, it's pretty obvious. She also has a huge victim mentality.

I learned something about this type of woman during the tailhook fraud. The woman in question falsely picked out the wrong assailant in a lineup the first time. This accused assailant had an ironclad alibi. Las Vegas law enforcement arranged another lineup. This time she falsely identified a Marine Corps friend of mine(GB) who didn't have an ironclad alibi. His life instantly was swept into chaos. He was suspended from his normal duties. He had to hire lawyers at his own expense. He kept a stiff upper lip, but eventually the pressure found him diagnosed with cancer. Eventually, years after the fact, he was exonerated, but he never got his reputation back, and his career was in a shambles. What lesson did I learn from this you might ask ? Whenever I saw a female servicemember coming my way, and I had the option, I turned away or otherwise made sure she could never even get even a glimpse of me lest I appear familiar to her in some theoretical future lineup. Now that boys and girls is an efficient way to run a military. You can thank all the lib/dem/socialist social engineers for that enhancement to military productivity.
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Re: Ky Teen Sexually Assaulted, Then Threatened With Jail Time
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 11:57:01 PM »
I learned something about this type of woman during the tailhook fraud. The woman in question falsely picked out the wrong assailant in a lineup the first time. This accused assailant had an ironclad alibi. Las Vegas law enforcement arranged another lineup. This time she falsely identified a Marine Corps friend of mine(GB) who didn't have an ironclad alibi. His life instantly was swept into chaos. He was suspended from his normal duties. He had to hire lawyers at his own expense. He kept a stiff upper lip, but eventually the pressure found him diagnosed with cancer. Eventually, years after the fact, he was exonerated, but he never got his reputation back, and his career was in a shambles. What lesson did I learn from this you might ask ? Whenever I saw a female servicemember coming my way, and I had the option, I turned away or otherwise made sure she could never even get even a glimpse of me lest I appear familiar to her in some theoretical future lineup. Now that boys and girls is an efficient way to run a military. You can thank all the lib/dem/socialist social engineers for that enhancement to military productivity.

I have a story from the military as well but I think I have already said too much today as it is.....maybe another time. :-)


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