primitives discuss what states have become more Democrat

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021158932

Oh my.

Quixote1818 (15,872 posts)

So which states have become more Democratic in the past 4 years?

From what I understand, it sounds like New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Ohio are moving left. Is this true and if there are others what does this mean for the future? If Ohio becomes a solid blue state in 4 to 8 years we may never see another Republican president.

Oh, I dunno.

We'll see.

Amak8 (71 posts)

1. Ohio and Nevada are too close too call. Yet.

Long term, Texas will end the modern Republican party.

Oh, I dunno.

We'll see.

freshwest (17,320 posts)

24. The part of Texas I grew up in was very progressive. It only took Bush to beat Ann Richards...

For the decent into Repuke hell. I believe that Texas was used as a conservative experiment from then on. Religion was twisted by right wing televangelists into something I never recognized. The climate in Texas does keep some people inside an inordinate amount of time, and they are the most affected by Fox News. It's the inverse of people up north getting cabin fever in the winter. At least of some people I knew.

As far as Fox being dominant, it now is. When I was growing there was never such claptrap on the television. The media was swallowed up and the Repukes gerrymandered and went wild with every theme they could push to ruin the best things about the state.

You cannot be deprived of fairness in media and have an informed electorate. We expected the news on tv and radio and not propaganda when I was younger. Good conversations and debates hosted by the League of Women Voters and all parties and views offered.

The 1990's were the years of the great collapse as far as I could tell in media. There were signs with the Reagan victories and when Bush ruined Texas governmnet almost and went to D.C. the same fellows kept screwing the Texas mind. What is terrifying is that this model is being used in every state to attack people at their weakest points: religion, media, school, work. People are social beings and absorb what is fed to them.

The people of TX aren't as dumb or prejudiced as people percieve them from media. There are many mixed families and immigrants around the globe have moved and live in Texas doing very well in safety. It is more diverse than people think but the very worst in people has been brought out.

I would love to see the Dem win Hutchinson's old seat and a strong candidate replace Perry. Houston was a fairly liberal place in many ways and tolerant. We'll see what unfolds.

Uh huh.

We'll see what unfolds.

RZM (7,514 posts)

3. New Mexico only went Republican once between 1992 and 2008

So it's been fairly reliable Dem territory for a while now. Colorado looks to be moving left though.

I think Ohio will retain its swing status for some time to come. It generally goes with the winner. Right now there is a Republican governor and Republicans have a pretty large lead in the State legislature. I think it will go Obama this time, but I wouldn't say it's going to be a reliably Democratic state anytime soon.

Amak8 (71 posts)

5. Colorado is way left.  [franksolich:   ]

They have legalization of weed of the ballot this year. Just don't bring up gun control.

marlakay (3,711 posts)

13. Same thing here in WA state

I live in the mountains and even the dems have guns....most of us who retired from the city are the non gun ones...

Hamlette (11,301 posts)

14. Colorado still too close to call and has only voted Dem twice in the last 10 presidential elections

in 1992 and 2008.

Quixote1818 (15,872 posts)

9. From what I understand New Mexico has gone from light blue to solid blue recently.  [franksolich:   ]

RZM (7,514 posts)

12. Seems to be that way

Gore only won it by a few hundred votes, while Obama won there easily. Of course, the 2000 election was close and the 2008 election was not, but it was still wider than the national margin in 2008.

Skip Intro (16,899 posts)

15. I was shocked Dems won NC in 08. That it is "leaning" now either way, is still shocking to me.

If Dems can get a foothold in NC, wow.

Not to mention the additional electoral votes.

Oh, I dunno.

We'll see.

appleannie1 (2,151 posts)

26. Pennsylvania has not learned in fire yet. After this governor and his thug congress have their way,

Pennsylvania will learn the error of their recent ways.

Question for the primitives:

Which states carried by John McCain in 2008 are going to vote for Barack Milhous this time around?

Think about it.

[franksolich]

Question for the primitives:

Which states carried by John McCain in 2008 are going to vote for Barack Milhous this time around?

Think about it.

By the way, I didn't express this as well as I should've--but it's the middle of the night, after all.

Usually when a sitting president wins re-election, it's by a margin larger than what he won in his first election.

I'm not aware of any exceptions the past 223 years, but there might be one or two.

So.....in what states is Barack Milhous going to improve over 2008?

I'm not God, but it looks to me he's going to be carrying fewer states this time around, and none that John McCain carried in 2008.

The primitives can shove that up their rectal apertures and smoke it.

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Colorado started going left when all the idiots were bailing from California and they brought their liberal idiocy with them.  I'd say mid 90's was the start, and it's been gradually sliding that way since.