christians who use the bible to oppose gay marriage are bigots

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rdking647 (1,750 posts)

christians who use the bible to oppose gay marriage are bigots


 
You are not being called a bigot because of your faith. You are being called a bigot because of your own personal interpretation of that faith.
Many Christians don’t interpret the bible to mean that God con
demns homosexuality. You have CHOSEN to interpret it that way. You have CHOSEN to select ONE single passage in Leviticus and take a stand on it. You have CHOSEN to ignore the rest of Leviticus. I don’t see you trying to keep people that are divorced from marrying again. I don’t see you lining up to support companies that support stoning women that get married after losing their virginity. Yet, you have chosen to interpret your faith against homosexuals. This makes you a bigot.

Many Christians aren’t bigots. They interpret their faith an entirely different way. Many straight Christians don’t condemn homosexuality. Many straight Christians follow the teachings of Jesus who never mentioned homosexuality at all. They recognize Leviticus for what it is: old Jewish law that bans many things that are not relevant to a modern world. They don’t pick and choose which passages mean something to them and which ones don’t in the Old Testament. They don’t harp on passages of the Old Testament that suit them and ignore the ones that inconvenience them.

You have chosen to interpret your faith in a way that marginalizes and discriminates against a group of people while ignoring others mentioned in the same text. You may say, “well, I don’t agree with divorce either”..which is fine..but..you aren’t voting to prohibit divorced people from marrying again or supporting groups that are advocating such causes.

Because you have chosen to interpret your faith this way while MILLIONS over other Christians interpret it an entirely different way makes you a bigot by definition.
In addition, you can CHOOSE to interpret history any way you want, but the fact remains that this is a SECULAR and CIVIL society, not a religious one. Everyone in the U.S. is offered the chance to practice their own religion, but when you interpret that to mean that your faith compels you to influence civil affairs and attempt to hurt other people and make them unhappy…sadly, you are a bigot.

I am fortunate to know many Christians that SEPARATE CHURCH FROM HATE. Try it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021071700

They are so cute when they try to tell Christians all about the Bible. It would be like me telling my doctor how to treat me when I'm sick, I didn't go to med school, he did.

Josh48 (1 post)
1. Doesn't matter

Economic forecasting model
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near-landslide.

Suicide run. 

99Forever (1,212 posts)
2. Discrimination is..

.. bigotry is prejudice is willful hatred, when aimed at anyone, simply for being who they are. That is the essence of being a bigot. That it is promoted by people claiming to "speak for god" is nothing new and raises the scale of just how evil it is.

"Christians" that stand back and smugly pretend that "well, it isn't me doing it, so I am good" instead of pushing back and speaking out against it are a huge part of the problem. Unless you people make it known, as loudly and often as your sickening fellow 'christian' bigots, that their message is wrong and UNChristian, you will be seen as agreeing. They say they speak for you and if you don't step up and SCREAM "No you don't!" with credibility, that is what will be believed.

Remember this:


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

God is a major bigot then, he holds it against us for who we are.

[Charles Henrickson]

You have CHOSEN to select ONE single passage in Leviticus and take a stand on it.

No, actually, rdking647, it's a lot more than a single passage in Leviticus. Check out Romans 1:18-32 in the New Testament, for example. Plus, there are all those passages throughout the Bible speaking of God's institution of marriage as between a man and woman. And the fact that homosexual perversion is called "Sodomy" should tell you something about what God thinks of it.

And if that's not enough, you don't even need to read the Bible to tell you that marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman. The design of the human body, the differences between male and female, how the human race is reproduced, the "Part A goes into Part B" stuff--that too should send the message.

Nature, reason, conscience, AND the clear word of God on the subject--all these things agree and are screaming out: "Man and woman, NOT man and man or woman and woman!" I think you homophiliacs need to read the story about "The Emperor's New Clothes," because you're living it out.

BTW, if you guys at the DUmp wish to compare credentials on Biblical interpretation, go for it. I have a Master of Divinity (M.Div.) degree, a Master of Sacred Theology (S.T.M.) in Exegetical Theology, and am "All But Dissertation" on a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies. Call me when you know something about what you're talking about.

[Skul]

rdking647 (1,750 posts)

christians who use the bible to oppose gay marriage are bigots

No, we are not. Sorry.
BTW, DUmbass, have you heard Harry Reid is a pederast?
It's true, I heard it from somebody that read about it on the internet.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

No, actually, rdking647, it's a lot more than a single passage in Leviticus. Check out Romans 1:18-32 in the New Testament, for example. Plus, there are all those passages throughout the Bible speaking of God's institution of marriage as between a man and woman. And the fact that homosexual perversion is called "Sodomy" should tell you something about what God thinks of it.

And if that's not enough, you don't even need to read the Bible to tell you that marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman. The design of the human body, the differences between male and female, how the human race is reproduced, the "Part A goes into Part B" stuff--that too should send the message.

Nature, reason, conscience, AND the clear word of God on the subject--all these things agree and are screaming out: "Man and woman, NOT man and man or woman and woman!" I think you homophiliacs need to read the story about "The Emperor's New Clothes," because you're living it out.

BTW, if you guys at the DUmp wish to compare credentials on Biblical interpretation, go for it. I have a Master of Divinity (M.Div.) degree, a Master of Sacred Theology (S.T.M.) in Exegetical Theology, and am "All But Dissertation" on a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies. Call me when you know something about what you're talking about.

Hi 5, Reverend!

[Carl]

You have CHOSEN to select ONE single passage in Leviticus and take a stand on it. You have CHOSEN to ignore the rest of Leviticus.

THIS coming from the group that almost to a whole take a single statement by Jesus about the poor to claim He was a Socialist. 

[USA4ME]

No, actually, rdking647, it's a lot more than a single passage in Leviticus. Check out Romans 1:18-32 in the New Testament, for example.

It's even more simple than that.  The word "Christian" means follower of Christ, and upon the death of Christ the old Law of Moses was done away with and the New Law of Christ became the law for those who wished to come to God.  I don't use the OT today because that was the old law.  I now have the new law, which is a better law, and the passage in Romans is very clear about how God views the topic of homosexuality.

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[Doc Savage]

Hey, I only feel that if a gay marrage if forced to be recognized in Kansas, then my pistol permit should be recognized in Massachusetts.  If I am a bigot for not supporting gay marriage, because if a catholic church does not want to perform one, the state should not be forced to, I guess the peacefull religion of Allah is 1000000 times worse.

[CactusCarlos]

No, actually, rdking647, it's a lot more than a single passage in Leviticus. Check out Romans 1:18-32 in the New Testament, for example. Plus, there are all those passages throughout the Bible speaking of God's institution of marriage as between a man and woman. And the fact that homosexual perversion is called "Sodomy" should tell you something about what God thinks of it.

And if that's not enough, you don't even need to read the Bible to tell you that marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman. The design of the human body, the differences between male and female, how the human race is reproduced, the "Part A goes into Part B" stuff--that too should send the message.

Nature, reason, conscience, AND the clear word of God on the subject--all these things agree and are screaming out: "Man and woman, NOT man and man or woman and woman!" I think you homophiliacs need to read the story about "The Emperor's New Clothes," because you're living it out.

BTW, if you guys at the DUmp wish to compare credentials on Biblical interpretation, go for it. I have a Master of Divinity (M.Div.) degree, a Master of Sacred Theology (S.T.M.) in Exegetical Theology, and am "All But Dissertation" on a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies. Call me when you know something about what you're talking about.

H5 for this post!

[dutch508]

Jesus said, " Judge not, least Ye be judged."

He said, " Do unto others as you would be treated."

and "Go now, and sin no more."

I will leave the judging to Him who will judge us all.

[MrsSmith]

Jesus said, " Judge not, least Ye be judged."

He said, " Do unto others as you would be treated."

and "Go now, and sin no more."

I will leave the judging to Him who will judge us all.

"Judge not, least Ye be judged," is vastly overused and seldom understood.  He tells us repeatedly to call out sin and teach against it.

[jukin]

The very least tolerant people on Earth are leftists/progressives.

[BattleHymn]

Nice, Charles!  If I could give you a H6, I would.  A H5 will have to do.  

[RWKindaGuy]

No, actually, rdking647, it's a lot more than a single passage in Leviticus. Check out Romans 1:18-32 in the New Testament, for example. Plus, there are all those passages throughout the Bible speaking of God's institution of marriage as between a man and woman. And the fact that homosexual perversion is called "Sodomy" should tell you something about what God thinks of it.

And if that's not enough, you don't even need to read the Bible to tell you that marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman. The design of the human body, the differences between male and female, how the human race is reproduced, the "Part A goes into Part B" stuff--that too should send the message.

Nature, reason, conscience, AND the clear word of God on the subject--all these things agree and are screaming out: "Man and woman, NOT man and man or woman and woman!" I think you homophiliacs need to read the story about "The Emperor's New Clothes," because you're living it out.

BTW, if you guys at the DUmp wish to compare credentials on Biblical interpretation, go for it. I have a Master of Divinity (M.Div.) degree, a Master of Sacred Theology (S.T.M.) in Exegetical Theology, and am "All But Dissertation" on a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies. Call me when you know something about what you're talking about.

Oh please.  Just because I have a degree in business doesn't mean I know any more about the subject than someone that doesn't.  Oh ... wait a minute ... never mind.  Carry on Reverend.

[thundley4]

Let's suppose for a moment that they are "born that way". 

Homosexuality is an evolutionary dead end.  It can only survive by indoctrination of straights. I'm guessing that is why they want adoption to be more widespread for gays.

They claim that it is normal because it exists in the animal kingdom. So what?  Let's dissect some animals acting queer and I'll bet they have other genetic traits that make them less desirable of having their genes passed on.

Nature has a funny way of culling the herd of unwanted traits.


On a side note, many conservatives come from large families and or have large families themselves.

[jukin]

They claim that it is normal because it exists in the animal kingdom. So what?  Let's dissect some animals acting queer and I'll bet they have other genetic traits that make them less desirable of having their genes passed on.

HI 5!!

That is the dirty little secret. However, one has to remember that one of the goals of the totalitarian left is to cull the human population down to a billion +/-. HOW?

1. Promote abortion.
2. Promote homosexuality
3. Promise medical care for all wile reducing it for all.
4. Create famines by regulation.
5. Create energy famines by regulation.
6. Create economic misery by regulation.

All of the above are directed at reducing population. This is something that the left has predicted but always been wrong because of American ingenuity. Now:

7, Make achievers reviled.