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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 04:51:28 PM »
One of Madison's historic Catholic churches even let a homeless man burn it to the ground 5 or 6 years ago.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 02:10:52 AM »
I thought all churches did something like that. Our church has a food cupboard. We have a fund to help with necessary expenses as well, like someone about to lose their electricity. We don't ask people about their religious or political beliefs because we don't care. Churches have been about loaves and fishes forever but the moral guidelines in the "thou shalt not's matter. It's those values that influence our giving. It's easy for a person to give when the government takes the money from you before you see it. There's no free will, no compassion, no sense of doing something for someone other than yourself.

There was a time when this was common practice. Neighbors helped neighbors. You knew them, they mattered to you personally. Those giving to their neighbors in need didn't have to fill out ridiculous tax forms, deal with the IRS or be constantly harped at by liberals, democrats & other assorted loser who insisted you weren't doing enough. You needed food? Neighbors brought food, invited you for dinner, cooked extra food, hired you to do work for them. Family was always there to help.

When the feds got involved, the closeness dissolved. It's not enough to say "well, people are more spread out now." They still live in neighborhoods, apartment buildings, trailer parks. If the government wasn't there to depersonalize everything, neighbors would get to know each other. People help people they know. It's human nature. But DUmmies want to take the easy way out...they don't have to think about helping, put forth the effort that shows true, heartfelt compassion. It isn't in their nature to care. It IS in their nature to spout pretty words so they can pretend they do.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2012, 02:21:00 AM »
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There seems to be a movement ongoing for churches to actually adhere more to the teachings of Jesus. They seem to be turning their backs on the fractious "Thou shalt nots" and embracing the loaves and fishes approach. (....)  

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I thought all churches did something like that. Our church has a food cupboard.

Most do.  It's only realized by DUllards when narratively expedient to do so.

Some people just desperately want to believe that nothing good can come from religion and people who ascribe to Christianity.  I go to an urban church which has an incredibly busy foodbank, regular meal programs, ESL classes, refugee assistance, and all kinds of good stuff like that - just like every other Catholic church I've ever belonged to.

DUllards have a constant feedback loop going on in their brains because they can't sort out the dichotomy between what they have been indoctrinated with and the overwhelming evidence of their senses.  Poor dears have to be so many different things at the same time; that they end up being too confused to reason and unable to deal with reality.  They assume that the easy was out of their dilemma is to try to shape reality to conform to their preconceived notion of what reality should be.  It's pure emotion, with no rational thought to temper that emotion.  Thus, they end up coming up with ridiculous ideas that defy logic re: Socialism, without Capitalism (cannot work) and they must demonize Religion, even while trying to praise it.   :mental:


Not to discount other denominations - it's just that I know more about the Catholics being one.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 04:48:48 AM »
These people are insane, you can tell they don't know a darn thing about Churches, the Churches around here have hot lunches for people, and there isn't 1 Church that I know of that doesn't have a food bank. At our Church people drop off food during each Mass, you have seniors who volunteer at our food bank, also we're discussing making donations of school books, backpacks, pens and pencils for kids going back to school. Pull your head out of the sand and you'll see what the Churches are doing.

Yeah that. Really speaks to the total lack of knowledge they really have about churches. What a bunch if dim wits who think they know it all.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 04:51:42 AM »
When the feds got involved, the closeness dissolved. It's not enough to say "well, people are more spread out now." They still live in neighborhoods, apartment buildings, trailer parks. If the government wasn't there to depersonalize everything, neighbors would get to know each other. People help people they know. It's human nature. But DUmmies want to take the easy way out...they don't have to think about helping, put forth the effort that shows true, heartfelt compassion. It isn't in their nature to care. It IS in their nature to spout pretty words so they can pretend they do.

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Around autumn '09 our pantrys board of directors decided to opt for a small percentage of proceeds from the United Way and government food program because we were getting more and more people coming in.  Since then the red tape surrounding this tiny bit of money has grown exponentially.   The interview forms for assistance has tripled as has the amount of questions, rules and guidelines.   None of the new bureaucracy helps anyone, but I guess it gives a job to a bean counter somewhere.  It's certainly discouraged volunteers from doing interviews and the board will soon be considering if that 'help' can be eliminated.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2012, 06:40:54 AM »
Maybe those pro-abortion liberal churches are different.  Ask them for food and they hand you a form for food stamps and bus fare.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2012, 10:05:01 AM »
Around autumn '09 our pantrys board of directors decided to opt for a small percentage of proceeds from the United Way and government food program because we were getting more and more people coming in.  Since then the red tape surrounding this tiny bit of money has grown exponentially.   The interview forms for assistance has tripled as has the amount of questions, rules and guidelines.   None of the new bureaucracy helps anyone, but I guess it gives a job to a bean counter somewhere.  It's certainly discouraged volunteers from doing interviews and the board will soon be considering if that 'help' can be eliminated.

That's the very thing that's keeping the outreach programs at my church relatively small and low-key: we quite simply have no interest in any government influence or meddling.  There's no doubt, with all the rules and regulations that are out there, that we're doing something wrong that could be used to shut us down if we ran into a bureaucrat with an agenda.  So, instead of programs growing naturally, we get to a certain size and then stop, maybe sending some people over to another parish to help them build up their own outreach programs.

I am sure that those bean counters you mentioned are also fully aware that organizations like ours would run them out of business if the government would get the hell out of the way and let us do our thing.

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2012, 10:35:29 AM »
Our church doesn't have a food bank, because we give to the local shelter/food bank (our former pastor is now the executive director of it), and we as a family, makes sure every year that the shelter (called Loaves and Fishes, btw) has plenty of fresh okra or broccoli from my FIL's garden. They get first, then we get what they don't need.
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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2012, 03:17:45 PM »
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WTF?  Almost all churches have some method of providing food for people that need it.  They've been doing since, well since there have been churches.

I was going to type something about a stunning level of ignorance on their part, but anyone who's been a member here for any amount of time is no longer stunned by any of the sewage effluent that flows from DUmmy keyboards. It's to be expected from a group of people who have chosen to seal themselves off from the real world, create their own mythology and believe without question any slander and demonization they present to one another over there. Their knowledge of the Bible is restricted to a handful of verses they've taken out of context to be used as weapons and their knowledge of Christians is based solely the caricatures they've created from occasional news stories about a corrupt clergyman or pedophile priest.

That's the way they want it, though. By belittling and marginalizing Christians and Christianity it makes it easier to practice their own iniquities without guilt.

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There seems to be a movement ongoing for churches to actually adhere more to the teachings of Jesus. They seem to be turning their backs on the fractious "Thou shalt nots" and embracing the loaves and fishes approach. This is an improvement, imo. However, true progress will be made when American Christendom realizes that local churches cannot truly "teach people to fish". Giving a fish to a hungry person is often needed but local groups can only help so many. To help millions you need, yes you guessed it, Government. People seem to be choosing love over hate but it remains to be seen where this will finish up. With financial stagnation and climate change and peak oil we are going to need GOOD government more than ever. Let us hope that evangelical brain cells start firing and some actually Christian practices begin to be the norm among those claiming the title....

Perhaps churches can't do it all, but consider this: Instead of sitting back and snarking about the faith-based groups who are trying to help, maybe you secular/atheist types could try to organize more charity of this kind yourselves. Better than paying lip service to how things "ought to be" in this country with regard to the poor and infirm. Together, we might be able to feed all those people who need it without waiting around and mewling for a government solution that may or may not materialize. Why are you waiting around to be forced to do it at the point of a government gun? Is it because you're content to use poverty as political tool? To use government loaves and fishes to buy votes in order to further an agenda that has nothing to do with filling these folks' bellies? Naaah, that couldn't be it.  
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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2012, 03:38:08 PM »
I'm waiting for the reply that chastise the church for not giving the food to the soup kitchen/food bank so as all the needy could partake and not just those that go to church.
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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2012, 09:42:30 AM »
Oh, yeah, one other thing we did at church was to take up a collection for the day care workers who can't make it on their salaries, and pay for each one to get a full Thanksgiving meal. It was done by word of mouth. As the saying goes,"charity begins at home."

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Re: Georgia church gives away 100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people today
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2012, 12:43:28 PM »
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100,000 lbs of food to 9000 people


Sounds like an average lunch hour at a Chik-fil-A.