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Offline franksolich

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plumbing help solicited by primitive
« on: July 29, 2012, 09:10:58 AM »
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Plumbing help please

There is strange hum/jackhammer type noise coming from under my house. It is almost like a jackhammer noise just quiter constant and at a lower frequency and faster soundwaves. It stops only when I run the water. Either inside or outside That includes flushing the toilet. Water is used so the noise stops temporarily

Only other thing I should mention is that my house is below grade and the house has a pump to send waste water up to street level

I am flummoxed I have called a plumber but have to wait several days. Any ideas ?

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1. Water hammer is usually a sign of poorly installed piping but that only happens when you shut it off

What you have sounds like the pump is acting up to me. Have you looked at the pump?

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2. Your system has a pressure air tank with a bladder inside

The bladder may have failed or the air chamber is empty. This situation usually causes the pump to come on over and over. Some newer pressure tanks have a nozzle to fill the air chamber to a desired pressure.

You also may have an air bleeding valve somewhere on the line. This is the likely culprit. It allows accumulated air in the system to bleed out without losing water. It is a small round metal thing with a cap that looks like a bike tire cap. Sometimes this cap is too tight and if loosened air will start to escape. If needed try to take the cap off and press the relief valve as if you were taking air out of a tire. If air does escape when you do this the valve itself should be replaced.

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3. looks like you got some pretty good advice here.

what if you went under the house and somebody else turned on the water? Would you than be able to tell if it is the pump or the water line ? Water jackets cure hammering pipes- but it seems it might be in the pumping system as was said.

Can you get under there and look around ? Is there a crawl space under the house ?

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musiclawyer (1,797 posts)

4. It looks like it was the filler valve in one of the toilets

Problem is that after the plumber replaced it, it now "whistles" instead of jackhammers I needed to tape a small but heavy object on the "arm" that lifts up the toilet plunger to keep the whistle sound from happening. Traded one problem for the other.

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5. Final follow up

Plumber says all problem were due to pressure valve, which he replaced. He says the pressure was the same as on the street (very high) and that its bad for the pipes and fixtures and cause noice and later whistling from the toilet when water was turned on elsewhere. Hopefull my experience helps someone else in the future.
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 09:49:15 AM »
Solution: Go green....draw water from the well with a bnucket on a chain... :-)

Al Gore will love you....sitting there in his hot tub with the AC going full blast.
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 09:52:15 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on July 29, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
Solution: Go green....draw water from the well with a bnucket on a chain... :-)

Al Gore will love you....sitting there in his hot tub with the AC going full blast.

Bnuckets on a chain sounds painful.
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 11:55:20 AM »
Before the Dummie rips out all the pipes under it's house they may want to try something as simple as replacing the Flapper in the toilet.
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 12:31:15 PM »
Quote from: Undies on July 29, 2012, 09:52:15 AM
Bnuckets on a chain sounds painful.

5 F's......fast and furious fat finger failure.
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Re: Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 12:55:28 PM »
Anyone have Joe the plumber's number handy to pass onto this DUmmy?
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 01:26:33 PM »
This DUmmy will do what every DUmpmonkey does when there's a plumbing problem.

Call the landlord.
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2012, 02:22:14 PM »
Obviously, someone from Halliburton, alerted by Dick Cheney with a cue from Karl Rove, surreptitiously started fracking under his house to steal his oil so they could pollute the planet, giving money to the brass so they could donate to the Romney campaign. That can be the ONLY explanation in DUmmieland!!
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 02:37:18 PM »
Quote from: GOP Congress on July 29, 2012, 02:22:14 PM
Obviously, someone from Halliburton, alerted by Dick Cheney with a cue from Karl Rove, surreptitiously started fracking under his house to steal his oil so they could pollute the planet, giving money to the brass so they could donate to the Romney campaign. That can be the ONLY explanation in DUmmieland!!

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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2012, 06:54:05 PM »
Hello Musiclawyer primitive,

You have a clog in your pipes somewhere.  You can get it out by dumping equal parts of bleach and ammonia down your toilet, and all your drains.  Do not the flush the toilet.  This will clear up your pipes.    

Best of luck,

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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2012, 06:58:36 PM »
Close the door and shut all the windows in the bathroom.  It will help the clog dissipate faster.
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 10:17:23 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 29, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Close the door and shut all the windows in the bathroom.  It will help the clog dissipate faster.

After doing that, if you sit on the bathroom floor and do those kooky zen exercises you see them doing all morning in San Francisco parks, the good karma will get rid of the bad krapma. Great way to flush out your nose, too!
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 10:53:34 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on July 29, 2012, 06:54:05 PM
Hello Musiclawyer primitive,

You have a clog in your pipes somewhere.  You can get it out by dumping equal parts of bleach and ammonia down your toilet, and all your drains.  Do not the flush the toilet.  This will clear up your pipes.    

Best of luck,

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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2012, 05:26:18 AM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on July 29, 2012, 06:54:05 PM
Hello Musiclawyer primitive,

You have a clog in your pipes somewhere.  You can get it out by dumping equal parts of bleach and ammonia down your toilet, and all your drains.  Do not the flush the toilet.  This will clear up your pipes.    

Best of luck,

DUmp Heloise

Good call.

You forgot the first part, where they nail a couple of 2X4's across the bathroom door from the inside, BEFORE they pour the bleach and ammonia into the toilet. 

It doesn't matter which one, the bleach or ammonia, they pour first, but it MUST be equal amounts, and be allowed to mix freely IN THE TOILET!  NO PREMIXING, and you must use AT LEAST 1 gallon of EACH for best results.  In this instance, MORE=BETTER!
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Re: plumbing help solicited by primitive
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2012, 12:21:02 PM »
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