Doctors are underworked and should see more patients for less money.

[Ogre]

snooper2 (13,207 posts)
1. That's the arguement the right wingers here in Texas are making..

Oh noes, we don't have enough doctors for everybody!

From my experience doctors can use a little larger workload...

Well hell, a member of basement brigade of cheeto eaters and pot smokers think doctors should work harder.

I would really like to know what is pooper2's experience?  Or is it the usual imaginary discussion he has with himself in his head.

[seahorse513]

My uncle got discharged from the NAVY and opened his practice in 1957. The little black doctors bag and night time house calls were common place.

Why didn't environmentalist try to save the " old country doctor" from extinction?

Interesting you should ask. Chris had put up a a Bill Whittle, which talks about that. He says, because of malpractice suits, the conventional DR still has to have mRI and/ or xrays to tell you something he already knew....

[sybilll]

I love how, since the SCOTUS decision and the "it's a tax" ruling came down, the talking heads have been spewing about assessing the "penalty" to the "free riders".  Wasserman-Schulz and Pelosi are concerned about "free riders"?  Are you kidding me?  No, really, are you kidding me????

[Traveshamockery]

I've worked in and for a few different medical practices and I will say that each and every one of them would treat patients for free at times, would cut their rates, or would work with them if finances were tight. 

The GI clinic that I last did work for had drug trials going on all the time where people could offer to take an experimental drug and receive free medical care and even be paid for their time. 

I'm sure they probably tested for illicit drug use so the DUmmies could have never qualified.

[seahorse513]

I've worked in and for a few different medical practices and I will say that each and every one of them would treat patients for free at times, would cut their rates, or would work with them if finances were tight. 

The GI clinic that I last did work for had drug trials going on all the time where people could offer to take an experimental drug and receive free medical care and even be paid for their time. 

I'm sure they probably tested for illicit drug use so the DUmmies could have never qualified.

Em, I really don't think people realize how damaging this will be to our healthcare system...
Kids staying on their parents health insurance till they are 26??? say what???

[thundley4]

Em, I really don't think people realize how damaging this will be to our healthcare system...
Kids staying on their parents health insurance till they are 26??? say what???

The insurance companies might like that part.  They jack up the premiums and rarely have to pay out on claims.

[Freeper]

I love how, since the SCOTUS decision and the "it's a tax" ruling came down, the talking heads have been spewing about assessing the "penalty" to the "free riders".  Wasserman-Schulz and Pelosi are concerned about "free riders"?  Are you kidding me?  No, really, are you kidding me????

Yeah the party of foodstamps and unemployment checks, instead of jobs has the nerve to complain about free riders. These people dream up new and creative ways to hand out freebies every day to buy votes.

[seahorse513]

The insurance companies might like that part.  They jack up the premiums and rarely have to pay out on claims.

well case in point. My eldest niece was married and had two girls by the time she was 25. Would my sister put her, her sil and her two girls on her insurance? or is it hopefully, providing they are still a full time student)and if said child is in the military, VA would pick up their tab...

[I_B_Perky]

Well dummies, let me tell you about my doctor. He quit accepting medicaid (not medicare) patients... ie Dummies. Had a big sign in his office stating such. So during my routine blood pressure script renewal, I asked him about it.

Here is what he said:

"Perky, you just can't believe these people. They don't show up half the time, then when they do show up they are late and expect to get in right then. Then they want every med under the sun. They complain about every little thing and take up a half an hour of my time. When I tell them lose weight, quit eating fatty foods, etc, they get hostile. Then the reimbursement rate sucks. At least the medicare patients show up on time. I decided to hell with it."

BTW dummies... doctors offices notice those that are on time or even early. They will work with you to get you in at a time that works with  your schedule. I usually like to go in at 1pm cause I can do it on my lunch hour. I am usually in and out in 15 minutes for a regular script renewal and very rarely has the doc been more than 5 minutes late unless he got someone that has an emergency. The first time that happened I told him "No problem. Someone got a serious problem, take care of them first. I can always reschedule."

Docs appreciate that. 

[jtyangel]

What really sucks about the Medicaid thing too is REAL disabled people are covered by it--often as a supplement. So, once again, the abusers of the system affect those with real disabilities who need care.

[I_B_Perky]

What really sucks about the Medicaid thing too is REAL disabled people are covered by it--often as a supplement. So, once again, the abusers of the system affect those with real disabilities who need care.

Speaking from a position of ignorance on the subject, I would say you are exactly correct. I think it will get worse when the however many people that are more concerned with big screen TV's than health insurance start going to doctors. It can only get worse in my opinion.

What these dummies do not realize is that every business, don't care what it is, has to make at least enough money to survive.

[kraven]

LiberalLoner (3,955 posts)
2. One of the things I'd like to see happen for our nation is

lots of nursing/urgent care stations. I remember seeing nursing stations in England when I visited decades ago and I thought they were such a good idea. Let's face it, sometimes we don't need a doctor really, sometimes we just need a nurse's advice.

SickOfTheOnePct (396 posts)
6. No doubt in my mind that there will be at least a short term shortage of providers

And it will be exacerbated in some places as practices decide that they won't take all insurance, which means patients with those policies will have fewer practices to choose from.

However, as people become comfortable with the notion of seeing a PA or CNP rather than a doctor, it will ease up a bit.

So is there Tort Reform buried somewhere in the Obamacare Manifesto that will handle the increase in malpractice suits that are sure to arise once nurses start making making the decisions a Dr should be making, or at least overseeing?

[Bad Dog]

So is there Tort Reform buried somewhere in the Obamacare Manifesto that will handle the increase in malpractice suits that are sure to arise once nurses start making making the decisions a Dr should be making, or at least overseeing?

Once they destroy the health insurance industry and place all medical professionals in government service, the problem will be solved. For examples check out the VA system.  Dr. Imbogo saws off the wrong leg & if you're lucky the gov. will give you $100 bucks a month disability.  Dr. Imbogo & the VA can't be sued. 

[AprilRazz]

snooper2 (13,207 posts)
1. That's the arguement the right wingers here in Texas are making..

Oh noes, we don't have enough doctors for everybody!

From my experience doctors can use a little larger workload...

I bet you were the one in my ED the other night complaining that I didn't wave my magic wand and make you all better.

[AprilRazz]

So is there Tort Reform buried somewhere in the Obamacare Manifesto that will handle the increase in malpractice suits that are sure to arise once nurses start making making the decisions a Dr should be making, or at least overseeing?

A good Nurse Practitioner is a godsend to a doctor. He or she handles the lower key stuff and gives the doctor more time for the difficult cases. Take Midwives for example, they can handle the majority of pregnancies and leave the high risk patients to the doctors. That is the one thing about the typical European medical system that I agree with.
Mr. April and I plan to go that route if we ever decide to have another one.