German court rules circumcision is 'bodily harm'

[Chris_]

German court rules circumcision is 'bodily harm'

Although male circumcision - unlike female circumcision - is not illegal in Germany, the court's judgement said the "fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents".

Circumcision, it decided, contravenes "interests of the child to decide later in life on his religious beliefs".

BBC

[Eupher]

Do I hear faint stirrings of the Horst Wessel Lied?

Distant drums of "Wir tragen den silbernen Adler?" A really strong urge to march to Warsaw?

[Mike220]

Do I hear faint stirrings of the Horst Wessel Lied?

Distant drums of "Wir tragen den silbernen Adler?" A really strong urge to march to Warsaw?

"Deutschland, Deutschland über alles"

 

[vesta111]

BBC

Yeah right, so what about a child at 12 that has a medical problem that has to become circumcised, fancy that trauma. Or a grown man that has a problem?

Circumcision has little to do with race or religion today.   It is a medical procedure done to prevent any "Problems" in the future for a male.  Has much to do with hygiene and disease prevention.

The only UN cut men I ever saw were those born at home,  majority of Americans born after 1930 are cut.

Matter of fact the Gay comunity value those UN cut, rare and hard to find. 

Jesus was circumcised a week or two after birth, if it was good enough HIM then it is good enough for my boys.

I do believe that NAMBLA is behind this out of the blue sudden question about the practice.   Allways on the look out for something new and different in the world of SEX.   

 

[General Yahya]

I was circumcised as a baby, my parents were Jews so it was compulsory. My father later told me after we converted to Christianity he believes circumcision is torture. As I was only a week old when it happened to me I can't really comment on it. But I don't think the German government has the right to tell people they can't do something that is a big part of their religion to their kids.

[rich_t]

I was circumcised as a baby, my parents were Jews so it was compulsory. My father later told me after we converted to Christianity he believes circumcision is torture. As I was only a week old when it happened to me I can't really comment on it. But I don't think the German government has the right to tell people they can't do something that is a big part of their religion to their kids.

Even if that includes female circumcision?

[vesta111]

Even if that includes female circumcision?

Elephants and ducks, total different thing.

Female circumcision is to remove any feeling of sexual stimulation from the females and hopefully keep her from running away from her husband.  The child also has her Virgina sewed up leaving just a small hole making child birth very dangerous for both mother and child.

Gruesome practice often done on children at 5-8 years old with a piece of glass or dull knife and no anesthetic.

Large numbers of girls go into shock and bleed to death. Those that survive live cold and heartless lives, never knowing love or joy at the birth of a child.   

Whoever thought this one up was a monster 2,000 years ago.   They went against God and nature to insure sex slaves for the men.   

Ethiopians still practice this and it drives  woman Doctors nuts when they get a patient who had this done to them.   Some ER doctors will get a child that has been an accident and find the child is recovering from a home made job and go into mild shock at the sight.   Nurses have been known to vomit when the parent comes rushing to the hospital when informed of their child's accident.   Police and social workers descend on confused parents that know little English and have no idea what is going on. 

State of Maine took in a few dozen Ethiopians and what a wild ride that was for them.  Church Sponsored immigrants that had to be taught how to climb stairs,  how to use a toilet, stove, referg.  how to cross a street without getting hit.

They were doing OK until the children had to have physicals to attend school.  All hell broke loose with the medical comunity when they examined the girls.   -------Make a visual of Hawk Eye coming home from the war and working in a small hospital in his home town in Maine and giving a health exam to a 5 year old in that condition-----   Total chaos for the doctors and nurses that have never seen such a thing.

This is not circumcision, this is butchery to a human, a child, the taking of a happy life.   Tradition perhaps but so is in parts of the world cannibalism and head hunting.   Selling the daughters or marrying them off at 12 to a 65 year old uncle.

Male circumcision as a new born is all so different from how females are destroyed it becomes Elephants and ducks. 

[General Yahya]

I don't think that's right cause from what I know no religion asks parents to circumcise their daughters. But I do think female circumcision shouldn't be allowed.