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Hollywood’s Campaign
« on: May 17, 2008, 06:46:35 PM »
Here we go again. Hollywood is doing their best to meddle in the 2008 election — and tinseltown is already all atwitter: “Although Oliver Stone’s biopic on George W. Bush won’t start filming until next week in Shreveport, Louisiana, Lionsgate has picked up the rights and already set a release date — October 17th, 2008. You heard me right — they’re releasing W just a few weeks before the election!” This will be the third election in a row that a highly charged political film was released right before the nation heads to the polls, so I guess we can call it a trend.

Personally, I couldn’t be more excited. With political films now quadrennially in vogue, perhaps my agent can get someone to take a meeting about my script, Wide Stances, Narrow Minds: The Larry Craig Story. But on another level, I’m excited because the only thing more entertaining than a Hollywood summer blockbuster is watching Hollywood flail around in the political arena.

Oliver Stone’s new Bush biopic, starring Barbra Streisand’s son-in-law in the title role, is certainly shaping up to be entertaining, though likely not in the way he intends. Stone, the noted paranoiac visionary behind JFK and Nixon, will take a stab at tarnishing the legacy of George W. Bush by rushing out a film while he’s still in office. Conceived as a mean-spirited parody, the film projects to be laughably predictable.

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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 07:50:29 PM »
This should be interesting.  It has never taken Oliver Stone less than two years to make a movie.  He is a stoned-out control freak who can take three weeks to shoot a ninety second scene. 

I have never like Oliver Stone's movies.  Most of them are downright painful.  The good news is with each new movie release, more and more of the viewing public shares my opinion.  Stone doesn't have half the audience or respect he once did enjoy.  "Alexander" almost put his franchise out of business. 

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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 09:12:55 PM »
The library across the street is loaded with books published before the '02, '04, and '06 elections that tried to sway voters.  Every author that had a manuscript was on the Today Show, GMA, and whatever that other station does for a morning show.

They're all gathering dust, and George Bush is still in the White House.
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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 09:15:57 PM »
The library across the street is loaded with books published before the '02, '04, and '06 elections that tried to sway voters.  Every author that had a manuscript was on the Today Show, GMA, and whatever that other station does for a morning show.

They're all gathering dust, and George Bush is still in the White House.

And instead of "getting it"...the Libs think they need to churn out even MORE hateful crap to try and "reach" the people.
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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 09:33:07 PM »
Of course, the question of "Who would go to see an Oliver Stone pic after all anymore?" sits there silently mocking the entire charade....

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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 09:59:02 AM »
Oh it gets worse...I just saw a commercial on USA Network for an HBO flick called "Recount"...care to guess what THAT is about? :whatever:
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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 01:37:16 PM »
How many movies trashing the war, our troops, and the president have tanked at the box office this past year?

Let's see...

Charlie Wilson's War
Stop Loss
In the Valley of Edah
Rendition
Home of the Brave

There are probably others. Looks like Hollywood still doesn't get it. America doesn't want to see this negative, anti-American BS.

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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 01:53:39 PM »

Rendition


Ah, yes. That Mark Cuban funded pile of hot garbage.
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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 05:36:00 PM »
I just read an interview with Stone(d) about the Bush movie. Oy vey...

he really tried to convince the reporter that he could be fair and accurate. He also admitted that it will be filled with dramatized accounts. So, fake but accurate like all of his films.

I doubt he'll make the election given his obsession with editing and reshooting.

EDIT TO ADD: I actually found the text of the article. It was in a magazine but it's also online. Check out the snippets -

The movie has become a lightning rod before Stone has shot a single frame. If that bootlegged script is any indication, the film will feature such flag-waving moments as the Commander-in-Chief nearly choking to death on a pretzel while watching football on TV and a flashback of him singing the ''Whiffenpoof'' song as a frat pledge at Yale, not to mention scenes in which he refers to his advisers by dorky nicknames — ''Guru'' for Condoleezza Rice, ''Turdblossom'' for Karl Rove, ''Balloon Foot'' for Colin Powell — while discussing plans for the invasion of Iraq with the coolness of a late-night poker game.

Stone has publicly promised W will be a ''fair, true portrait of the man,'' but already there are those accusing him of the politics of personal destruction — and, worse, of trying to influence the election by painting the current Republican administration as reckless doofuses (although presumptive Republican nominee John McCain makes no appearance in the script). Naturally, Stone vehemently denies all charges. ''Bush may turn out to be the worst president in history,'' he declares as he peeks into room after room. ''I think history is going to be very tough on him. But that doesn't mean he isn't a great story. It's almost Capra-esque, the story of a guy who had very limited talents in life, except for the ability to sell himself. The fact that he had to overcome the shadow of his father and the weight of his family name — you have to admire his tenacity. There's almost an Andy Griffith quality to him, from A Face in the Crowd. If Fitzgerald were alive today, he might be writing about him. He's sort of a reverse Gatsby.''

Stone insists that every scene in W will be rooted in truth, and that he and Weiser drew from more than 20 diverse books — although, it should be noted, some accounts may have come from disgruntled former staffers. The director acknowledges that he had to speculate on some of the dialogue and delivery. ''You take all the facts and take the spirit of the scene and make it accurate to what you think happened,'' he says. ''But if you take one speech from Cincinnati and one speech from the U.N. and turn them into one scene, who cares?'' A few people, it turns out. Even before actors have arrived on the set — even before there are any sets — debate over the movie's accuracy is already heating up. The Hollywood Reporter even asked historians, including Robert Draper, author of Dead Certain: The Presidency of George W. Bush, to vet the early script. ''My quarrel with the script isn't that it departed from factual reality here and there, but that it just misses the guy,'' Draper tells EW. ''You come away with an even more hyperbolized caricature of Bush the Cowboy President than is already out there.''

In any case, W is being financed independently, with Chinese, German, and Australian funds and Lionsgate is rumored to have struck a deal to distribute it.

W didn't just make studios nervous; the script gave lots of movie stars cold feet, too. Stone denies rumors that Robert Duvall turned down Cheney. And he won't comment on reports that he's talking to Paul Giamatti about the part. But casting has clearly been challenging. ''You'd be amazed how many male stars of a certain age in Hollywood are Republicans,'' says Bill Block, CEO of QED, one of the film's producers. ''I'm not going to name names, but a lot of them just didn't want to have anything to do with it.'' According to Stone, even some of the town's young Democrats couldn't be persuaded. ''They hate Bush so much, they can't understand why I'd want to make a movie about him,'' he says. ''They hate him so much, they can't even imagine themselves playing him or playing anybody around him.''

Luckily, Josh Brolin got over his qualms — after all, his father, James, managed to play Ronald Reagan in a TV miniseries, and he's married to Barbra Streisand. ''When Oliver approached me about George Bush my initial reaction was 'Why would I want to do that?''' says the 40-year-old actor, lately on a career roll after performances in American Gangster and No Country for Old Men. ''But Oliver pointed out certain similarities I had with the character. We both have well-known fathers. We both grew up in the country. We both have strong mothers.'' Stone's pitch worked like a charm, and for the past couple of months Brolin has been driving his wife, Diane Lane, crazy, struggling to master the president's inimitable vocal style. ''I'm talking to myself all day long,'' Brolin says. ''Sometimes I'll call hotels in Texas and talk to the people at the front desk just to listen to their accents.


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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 05:38:46 PM »
I just read an interview with Stone(d) about the Bush movie. Oy vey...

he really tried to convince the reporter that he could be fair and accurate. He also admitted that it will be filled with dramatized accounts. So, fake but accurate like all of his films.

I doubt he'll make the election given his obsession with editing and reshooting.

This must be the penance he has to pay for making World Trade Center two years ago.
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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 05:40:52 PM »
Don't forget "Redacted". :banghead:

Another Hollywood plan to release a far-left propoganda movie in October in a presidential election year, no surprise. I guess they think if they try this over and over again, eventually it might work. ::)

Oliver Stone claims to find inspiration for his "films" while driving in the desert after ingesting magic mushrooms...'nuff said.

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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2008, 07:56:38 PM »
The library across the street is loaded with books published before the '02, '04, and '06 elections that tried to sway voters.  Every author that had a manuscript was on the Today Show, GMA, and whatever that other station does for a morning show.

They're all gathering dust, and George Bush is still in the White House.

And instead of "getting it"...the Libs think they need to churn out even MORE hateful crap to try and "reach" the people.
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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 11:27:50 PM »
This should be interesting.  It has never taken Oliver Stone less than two years to make a movie.  He is a stoned-out control freak who can take three weeks to shoot a ninety second scene. 

I have never like Oliver Stone's movies.  Most of them are downright painful.  The good news is with each new movie release, more and more of the viewing public shares my opinion.  Stone doesn't have half the audience or respect he once did enjoy.  "Alexander" almost put his franchise out of business. 

and look at how miserably all those other anti-military, anti-conservative movies have done so far? i think the public is so sick of every freaking thing being politicized.. we just want entertainment, not indoctrination.

Sean Penn, our national fat head, has been spewing at the Cannes Film Festival that any director who expects to win the top prize must keep the national politics in their cross hairs - now, how blatant is that?

either bash the soldiers or the US system, and lay it all at Bush's feet, or you dont win! .. i think conservatives in hollywood ought to speak up about that. or somebody else should.

that is outrageous..

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Re: Hollywood’s Campaign
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2008, 01:09:42 AM »
Let those loons waste all that money.  They are only preaching to the choir, so they stand to lose money.

Anyone notice the pattern from their anti-war movies the past few years?  NONE of them even made enough money to even come close to breaking even, but they keep churning them out.

The funny thing is, the looney left in un-holy-weird still doesn't get it - they don't set the tone for the nation.  They spend so much time living in their fantasy world that they cannot tell fantasy from real life.
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