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"It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« on: May 01, 2012, 01:54:36 PM »
Karin got me thinking about an thread at that shithole known as the DUmp.


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"It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts)Tue Jun-05-07 04:08 PM

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Hawk attacking my cat... what should I do?
   
A large grey hawk has been hanging out in our backyard for the past 2 weeks. Twice in the last 3 days he has swooped down and came within inches of grabbing my cat. The cat ran, and I threw stuff at the hawk, and he just goes back up to the telephone pole. I throw rocks at him and he flies away, but the next day he is back again. Any suggestions?


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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-05-07 08:02 PM

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43. harming a hawk is a felony, stop throwing stones
   
keep the cat indoors or feed the cat to the hawk, i really don't care which, but it is a felony to interfere with a North American raptor (bird of prey) without a license

cats are not endangered, they are an overpopulation, it is the right of the hawk to defend its territory and to feed

it is an honor to have your cat eaten by a hawk

people who care about their cats keep them indoors, no excuses, there is no natural habitat for the housecat in north america

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-05-07 09:08 PM

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46. No, it is defintely not an honor to have my cat eaten by a hawk. Sorry.
   
Moreover, if any animal of any species attacked me with deadly force, I would kill it without hesitation, in self defense. Even if it was the last surviving specimen of that species. My life is not worth sacrificing for the sake of the survival of another species. Sorry. I have rights too, and my cat has the right to live a life undisturbed by predators.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Tue Jun-05-07 09:14 PM

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47. if you put the life of a cat aga. an endangered species nothing to discuss. u have chosen evil
   
people who boldly boast that they are on the side of evil and the death of species really need to get a conscience but reality is that evil people don't turn to the side of good much after age 13 or so

too many people are happy to destroy species and the planet for their own convenience but i wish more of them had enough conscience to at least not boast about it

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-05-07 09:23 PM

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49. Since when is one's survival a matter of "convenience?" If my life was in immediate peril
   
from an animal attack, I would kill that animal without hesitation or any guilt. The law doesn't matter in that situation. The endangered status of the animal doesn't matter in that situation. All that matters is my survival. The animal is dead. Period. Not a second thought.

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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Tue Jun-05-07 10:26 PM

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51. I agree about you, not about the cat.
   
Personally, if I saw you kill a hawk to defend you're cat, I'd call every agency I could to push for your prosecution. Cats are an invasive species and have no place in the natural environment of North America. They're just as destructive to nature as suburban sprawl and pollution, and are far more devastating than all of Americas hunters combined.

You have a right to a cat, and your cat has a right to live, but it MUST live in harmony with the natural environment that already exists. Neither you nor your cat has a right to change the environment or to kill or chase off native fauna. If your cat cannot live outside with the hawk, you should keep it inside.

That said, it's not likely that the hawk could get your cat. They do catch them on rare occasion, but cats are excellent at evasion. Dogs tend to be more frequent targets because they aren't built to evade the same way cats are.

As others have mentioned, you can also try some bird netting. It's effective, and you can net a typical yard for about $50. Put the number for the local SPCA on your speedial however, because you're going to be calling them to have injured birds untangled with some regularity.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-06-07 11:13 AM

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60. Go ahead and call. If a bird attacks and harms my cat, the bird is taking a bullet. Period.
   
I don't care whether it's an endangered species or not. It's self-defense. Anyone or anything that attacks me or one of my dependents is dead. Period.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Wed Jun-06-07 12:04 PM

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68. Keep your kitty safe indoors. The hawk has a family to feed
   
this time of year.

The strongest shall survive! Darwin! Evolution! Rabble, Rabble, Rabble!!!! ....unless we're talking about humans.

Then we subsidize laziness and punish success.


BTW, don't worry, pitohui, if a Hawk swoops in on my animals, I won't be throwing rocks. I'm throwing triple aught.
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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 02:01:28 PM »
Someone ought to give that hawk a bag of skittles and an Iced Tea... :fuelfire:
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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »
Treat your pets like family!!!*

*Unless it's attacked by an endangered species.

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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 02:04:30 PM »
BTW, don't worry, pitohui, if a Hawk swoops in on my animals, I won't be throwing rocks. I'm throwing triple aught.

I hope not. There are what, maybe 9 pellets of 000 in a round?

Unless you're really up close and personal, he can slip right through your pattern.

For hawks, you want to use #6 shot. That's all I ever use for turkeys.

And with a full-choke barrel, at 40 yards a robin won't get through the pattern.

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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 02:09:04 PM »
I hope not. There are what, maybe 9 pellets of 000 in a round?

Unless you're really up close and personal, he can slip right through your pattern.

For hawks, you want to use #6 shot. That's all I ever use for turkeys.

And with a full-choke barrel, at 40 yards a robin won't get through the pattern.

I can throw out several shells of lead with my old Remington automatic 1100.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 02:28:21 PM »
I hope not. There are what, maybe 9 pellets of 000 in a round?

Unless you're really up close and personal, he can slip right through your pattern.

For hawks, you want to use #6 shot. That's all I ever use for turkeys.

And with a full-choke barrel, at 40 yards a robin won't get through the pattern.

Yep, triple ott is for the moron that comes thru yer door in the middle of the night. Even then I prefer double ott.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 02:38:31 PM »
I hope not. There are what, maybe 9 pellets of 000 in a round?

Unless you're really up close and personal, he can slip right through your pattern.

For hawks, you want to use #6 shot. That's all I ever use for turkeys.

And with a full-choke barrel, at 40 yards a robin won't get through the pattern.

Animals that are cared for are considered Property in most states.   You get a hawk catching your free rage chickens that you feed and depend on for food and eggs, no question asked the Hawk has to GO.

Cats are also property if fed and given Vet care, so are small 6 pound dogs,  they depend on you to keep them as safe as you can.

In some States it is illegal to shoot a Bear, catch one of them going after a calf or Foll and they be gone also.

Darn, were this Hawk to get a shining to your brand new car and decide to eat the paint or peck holes in it, perhaps get aggressive with the kids playing out side----Hawk be gone.

This is so stupid, Humans rights come before the rights of aggressive animals, and when a wild bird or animal acts out they may be sick with any number of diseases that can effect your family.  One has the right to protect their Property, from all threats.    

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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 02:40:06 PM »
Yep, triple ott is for the moron that comes thru yer door in the middle of the night. Even then I prefer double ott.

I've heard it mentioned that #1 Buck is best for defense.  Especially the new Federal LE132 load (12 gauge).  It just came out, and it sold out virtually everywhere that had it--within hours.

As for hawks?  If one comes after my cat, I've screwed up by letting Oreo out.  Oreo's pretty heavy now, so that hawk had better have the lifting power of an AV-8B Harrier.  It's still going to get shot.
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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 02:43:06 PM »
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43. harming a hawk is a felony, stop throwing stones
   
keep the cat indoors or feed the cat to the hawk, i really don't care which, but it is a felony to interfere with a North American raptor (bird of prey) without a license

cats are not endangered, they are an overpopulation, it is the right of the hawk to defend its territory and to feed

it is an honor to have your cat eaten by a hawk

people who care about their cats keep them indoors, no excuses, there is no natural habitat for the housecat in north america

Don't the DUmpmonkeys claim that they are a majority? Wouldn't that be considered an overpopulation? Can we just feed DUmpmonkeys to hawks instead of cats?
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Re: "It is an honor for your cat to be eaten by a hawk."
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 02:44:36 PM »
Don't the DUmpmonkeys claim that they are a majority? Wouldn't that be considered an overpopulation? Can we just feed DUmpmonkeys to hawks instead of cats?

That's a very good point.  H5.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 02:45:42 PM »
That thread's a classic!   :lmao:   "u have chosen evil."   :rotf:  We haven't seen pithooey in a while.  She's a rabid child hater.  

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 03:19:27 PM »
That's a very good point.  H5.

And it's actually logical if you take into consideration that cats are actually more productive to society than the DUmmies.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 03:28:40 PM »
Save the hawks but suck out the unborn with a mini-vac  :argh:
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 03:29:20 PM »
If a hawk tries to hurt Jingles, he is going down. I would feel bad afterwards, but Jingles means everything to me..
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2012, 03:59:51 PM »
Save the hawks but suck out the unborn with a mini-vac  :argh:

It's their priorities.  But, God tends to even these things up.
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2012, 04:06:55 PM »
If it were my cat, I'd be tying some very pretty flies.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2012, 04:09:10 PM »
Hawk tastes like chicken, only a little tougher.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 04:28:58 PM »
Karin got me thinking about an thread at that shithole known as the DUmp.

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Oh yeah, one of my all-time favorite DUmp threads!  H5!
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 04:31:17 PM »
Hawk tastes like chicken, only a little tougher.

Use a pressure cooker, serve with dumplings.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 04:54:53 PM »
And it's actually logical if you take into consideration that cats are actually more productive to society than the DUmmies.

I have a barn full of mice. My kitties keep them from overpopulating my property. Wouldn't bother me much if a hawk came after them as I'm pretty sure the hawk would be damned sorry they got a hold of one of them.

These cats are bad ass, and birds are a favorite prey. I discourage them however with my BB gun! They still grab one once in a while, but, that's how nature works. I'm thinkin' the tom might actually bait a Red Tail, and the eagles won't bother. Too much work for some pretty tuff meat! They're all around 10 years old.

Save the hawks but suck out the unborn with a mini-vac  :argh:

Boy, don't that define DUmpster Divers to a "T"!
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2012, 05:15:25 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2012, 05:28:09 PM »
There is a place for all of Gods creatures, right next to the potatoes and veggies.

Yep! Just ask the 'Bummer! He has recipes for dog! I'm sure cats are in his cook book, too!
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2012, 06:00:33 PM »
That's why I have dogs. A 40lb Lhasa they would be stupid to touch, and a 21lb. Both are males and littermates. Don't know if any of'em will mess with the Bentley, but it would be the worst mistake of their life. Brutus is very protective over little bro.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2012, 06:00:57 PM »
...and we do have Bald Eagles down here.
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2012, 09:55:35 PM »
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Tue Jun-05-07 10:26 PM

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51. I agree about you, not about the cat.
   
Personally, if I saw you kill a hawk to defend you're cat, I'd call every agency I could to push for your prosecution. Cats are an invasive species and have no place in the natural environment of North America. They're just as destructive to nature as suburban sprawl and pollution, and are far more devastating than all of Americas hunters combined.

Well since this jerk would work to get me prosecuted for protecting my pets I would double down and send this DUmmy to the hospital with the ass kicking of his life. If I'm going to jail for stupid liberal policy then I might as well beat the living shit out of a stupid liberal trying to get me busted via stupid liberal policy.