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Offline JohnnyReb

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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2012, 11:49:38 AM »
Quote from: GOP Congress on April 26, 2012, 11:45:26 AM
Not my pay grade. Well, not my google grade anyway. Here's pretty much everything you need to know.

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/dischargeupg.htm

Doesn't look good for Stein. Here's a relevant statement from the article:

"With few exceptions, the DRB can consider all discharges for upgrade. The Board cannot, however, change a punitive discharge imposed by a courts-martial. "

That pretty much sums it up. Only the CiC can change the status, it would seem, based upon pardon statutes, but I'm not sure how that would work.


President Jimmy Carter upgraded John Kerry's discharge.

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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2012, 11:53:15 AM »
Quote from: GOP Congress on April 26, 2012, 11:45:26 AM
Not my pay grade. Well, not my google grade anyway. Here's pretty much everything you need to know.

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/dischargeupg.htm

Doesn't look good for Stein. Here's a relevant statement from the article:

"With few exceptions, the DRB can consider all discharges for upgrade. The Board cannot, however, change a punitive discharge imposed by a courts-martial. "

That pretty much sums it up. Only the CiC can change the status, it would seem, based upon pardon statutes, but I'm not sure how that would work.



The Article is unclear as to if it was a court martial.  A disciplinary panel could be an article 15 but that normally is adjudicated by a single field Grade officer.
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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2012, 12:02:58 PM »
Article 15 is njp.
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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2012, 12:09:50 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on April 26, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
Article 15 is njp.

An article 15 can impose discharge.
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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2012, 12:21:57 PM »
There may be other reasons why the DUmmies are taking sides against the marine.  Their innate hatred of the military is an obvious one, but don't overlook the guys last name.  Stein
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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2012, 01:45:15 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 25, 2012, 09:38:59 PM
One article I read said that he was given more than one chance to withdraw or disown his comments, and he refused.

That has the ring of truth to it; this is the kind of thing that doesn't normally go anywhere near this far unless the troop in question forces it there.
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Re: US Marine Gary Stein dismissed for criticising Obama
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2012, 01:48:10 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 26, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
That has the ring of truth to it; this is the kind of thing that doesn't normally go anywhere near this far unless the troop in question forces it there.

Perhaps someone called someone else' s bluff but they weren't bluffing ?
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