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primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« on: April 22, 2012, 06:10:56 AM »
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SHRED (9,126 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

so my wife had a hysterectomy monday

Surgery was top notch but why are hospitals so noisy for recovery? Unless you pay extra for a single room forget resting. She is still here and I am sitting outside her room to guard against anyone waking her. Check this out...they took her roommate out at one in the morning, made tons of noise, and then left the light on after they left...wow. Shitty food and no sleep are not good yet it seems that is what hospitals are all about. So far I have stopped three people from bugging her in one hour.

Thanks for listening to me rant and I will try and get her home today!

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cbayer (106,136 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. It's really tough.

Overworked staff, poor coordination of services, many public and not for profit hospitals managing right on the financial edge, insurance company demands that things happen fast, too many people writing orders to cover their butts.

It's a horrible place to be. Hope you get her home today and she has a speedy recovery.

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5. what is strange is...

...they made all that racket early this morning yet no one else has been admitted to this room.

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9. There are issues around shift change.

Since night shifts have little to do during the night, they are often assigned a lot of morning tasks - vital signs, bloodwork, etc. that they need to get done before 7AM.

Also, since surgeons start very early in the morning (generally 7AM for first case) and they want to make rounds first, they want all that data on the chart when they get there.

Not an ideal system, but that's how it works.

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SHRED (9,126 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

11. this happened at 1am

Still no roommate.

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leftofcool (6,874 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

12. I think I can answer the noise thing

One of the things nurses really want your wife to do is wake up and rouse once in a while even when she is resting. Racket is good because the nurses make noise, your wife wakes up and that lets them know she is okay until they can get back to her and do the normal checks. At least this is now they explained it to my husband when I had cancer surgery.

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SHRED (9,126 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

13. thank you

I understand checking on her and she has been walking but this was a room cleaning at 1 am plus they left the light on when they were gone. No one came when she beeped them and she had to roll out of bed to shut of
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Speck Tater (8,650 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. Just be thankful that ...

...the right hasn't yet declared hysterectomies to be preemptive abortions and outlawed them.

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4. Ask what the cost is for a private room.

when my husband was at U of M for his heart surgery, he was placed in a semi private room. I stayed in the hotel there. After surgery, I asked what the price of a private room was. The difference? Five dollars. I paid the five dollars, checked out of the hotel and stayed in his room with him. So ask the staff what the difference is, it may not be much.

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Damned primitives, inconsiderate and insensitive to their reading audience.

What the damned Hell is "U of M"?

University of Michigan?  University of Minnesota?  University of Maine?  University of Maryland?  University of Miami?  University of Massachusetts?  University of Mississippi?  University of Missouri?  University of Montana?

This shows how provincial the primitives really are, assuming that everybody knows their own little tiny corner of the world.

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liberal N proud (38,327 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. No one can ever rest in a hospital

If it isn't the noise in a ward, they are poking you and taking blood or some other test.

I have been in the hospital and never slept for the 3 days I was there. Doze off and in comes the nurse to do something or another. I swear, there must have been sensors that said, sleeping.

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8. Your wife has my sympathies. When I had mine

I was so doped up I really didn't notice all that much, but I do remember having a really annoying roommate. Demerol & morphine are really great amnesia-inducing drugs--you will remember more than your wife will! Hopefully her hysterectomy will be as successful as mine. I should have done it years before I actually did. Hot flashes are a bitch, tho. Still have them 8 years in... (TMI?)

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14. I hate when your sleeping and the nursery come in and wake you up to give you your med's. Crazy. This hospital we have here has only single rooms. I have been lucky I haven't had to share. I did one time when I had major surgery. I was hooked up to so much you couldn't imagine. It was a sunday. I was still coming out of all the drugs. They brought this young woman in the room and boy was she was hipper. She talked to much and was very loud. A car ran over her foot. She would get out of bed and almost fall. Her mother was so nice. She had gone out of the room for something and I begged the nurse if they could give her something to help her to be silent for awhile. She was driving me crazy and I really needed the care at the time because I could get out of bed. So the slipped her a micky and I had a wonder day of sleep. After 3 days she was finally gone. I was happy. It is no fun sharing a room if the person doesn't respect your space.

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16. When I first went into the hospital , I had a roommate that had an eating disorder-she was morbidly obese and kept eating ALL.THE.TIME! The reason she was in the hospital was because she was DYING.FROM.BEING.MORBIDLY.OBESE! Between her REALLY loud eating, she was CONSTANTLY complaining and LOUDLY chatting on her phone! Oh, and did I tell you that she had LOUD and OBNOXIOUS visitors who WERE.BRINGING.HER.MORE.FOOD!!!

I wanted to strangle her because the cherry on the top of that nightmare of a cake was that she SNORED! YAY!! AND she had such lovely eruptions of ODOR...a dream come true!

I was moved after I had the surgery and was in ICU for 4 days. Once I came around, this was almost worse than the first room because there was a lady down the hall who had advanced Alzheimer's and she SCREAMED AND CURSED ALL NIGHT!! She would let go of the most BLOODCURDLING screams AND her curses would make a Hong Kong sailor blush! I swear to God that she sounded like something out of the Exorcist, so help me. The thing was that she didn't make any noise during the day. I wondered if she had something akin to "sundowner Syndrome" I couldn't say anything because I was on a respirator. THE.WORST.HOSPITAL.STAY.I.HAVE.EVER.HAD!

Oh, what wonderful, lovely, lovely memories Good times, Good times!

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17. When my mother was admitted to ICU, she was hooked up to all these alarms that kept going off, but NO ONE RESPONDED TO THEM! What is the point of an alarm that no one pays attention to?

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19. I used to joke to my patients that it was the last place to expect a rest and that was on purpose since we didn't want them coming back in too soon.

The problem is that patients are discharged as soon as they're medically stable, to convalesce at home. That leaves the sickest of the sick and I can tell you from 25 years of experience that they all love to go sour in the wee hours. But yes, somebody should have turned the light off after they whisked her roommate off to the ICU.

These are the reasons we actually tended to push sedation on them at bedtime. If they were awakened by a hullabaloo when a roommate or even the person across the hall crashed and burned, they'd get back to sleep easily once it was over.

^^the defrocked warped primitive, with a face like Hindenberg's, had her nursing license revoked for life by Massachusetts in the late 1990s.  It must have been something pretty bad, that the warpy primitive did.

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25. I can beat all these stories

I was in the hospital with my last c section decades ago. I wanted to get some rest while baby was in the nursery, my last night in the place.

THEY WAXED THE FLOORS IN THE HALL!!! ALL NIGHT LONG!! WITH AN EXTREMELY NOISY MACHINE!!

No problem--I'll call the nurse and get some sleep medication, which was prescribed if I needed it.

I called them-- THEY WOULD NOT BRING IT TO ME!! THEY WOULD NOT COME TO MY ROOM BECAUSE THE FLOORS WERE BEING WAXED. I had no hospital care whatsoever because of the damned waxed floors, and no sleep medication.
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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 07:08:12 AM »
Obamacare has the answer to DUmmies complaint....stay home and die.
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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 07:17:41 AM »
I remember being in the Naval Hospital in Portsmouth VA in the 70's.  I was on an open ward with 30 beds for almost a month. 

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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 07:28:55 AM »
I remember being in the Naval Hospital in Portsmouth VA in the 70's.  I was on an open ward with 30 beds for almost a month. 

STFU

...but it was free, right?

DUmmies think with Obamacare they're going to get private rooms and first class medical personnel..... :lmao:.....a 30 bed ward will only be in the better facilities. ....And those will be reserved for the communist elite.
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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 07:59:22 AM »
Obamacare will turn hospitals into production mills. Waiting times will increase and there will not be enough beds to the maternity wards.

1) The staff will not care.
2) The doctors will quit en mase. They will be replaced by foreign born doctors of questionable quality. Those who are muslim will not disinfect their hands with alcohol.
3) Death will be common as elderly patients will be killed by hospital staff.
4) No media will dare even print the horror stories.

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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 08:26:20 AM »
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13. thank you

I understand checking on her and she has been walking but this was a room cleaning at 1 am plus they left the light on when they were gone. No one came when she beeped them and she had to roll out of bed to shut of
lights

Housekeeping DOESN'T just clean rooms at 1AM, the only time they get called in to clean patient areas is if there's a huge mess for some reason or a patient is transferred and the beds are really needed and the bed gets disinfected before another patient can use it.
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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 08:48:08 AM »
I remember being in the Naval Hospital in Portsmouth VA in the 70's.  I was on an open ward with 30 beds for almost a month. 

STFU

NO, this is not FREE, it is a part of the salary one gets for a high risk job.

I also was in the Portsmouth VA. Navel hospital in the mid 1970's and my room mate was a LUT. in the Airforce.  She had been in an Auto crash and needed skin grafts for her burns.  They took her skin off her buttocks, but because of a mix up in the medical team the new graft's were not kept moist and they turned into scabs and fell off.

Never know what kind of care one gets when they are under pain medication.   How to ask questions of the experts when one is high as a kite.   This goes for all medical facilities civilian or military.

Yes hospitals are noisy, 24/7 someone is moving in the halls medicine carts with a squeaky wheel go by, just the sounds of an unfamiliar place, Patients in pain, moaning or moving about in their beds or using the bathroom.

Hospitals are not resort places, anywhere one goes to for a quiet vacation.   Hospitals are places where people go when they need extreme help that can not be done at home.   Patients get 3 meals [ Of their choice ] 24/7 observation, minute by minute records of their health.   Feel pain, a professional is but a minute away to change a bed pan, sheets if necessary, dispense pain medication ------Sorry about the lights being turned on, but I for one would not try to change a colostomy bag in the dark, insert an I V drip, or even change a Chuck Pad.

Even a private room is entered every couple hours, lights on, full check on the patient, sorry for the inconvenience but the staff is trying to insure you leave the Hospital alive.


      

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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 09:30:17 AM »
All these stories sound like European healthcare to me -  Isn't that what they want ?

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Re: primitives discuss noisy hospitals
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 10:14:53 AM »
Wow.  Instead of thinking, "Oh no.  My wife's roommate had to have something done in the middle of the night.  I hope she's okay.  I bet her family/friends are sick with worry."  It's along the lines of, "Poor US!  WE were inconvenienced.  WE deserve better."  Selfish pigs.