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That doesn't fit into Barry's MO. He's spent his entire political life avoiding decision-making and ensuring that where he absolutely, positively has to make a decision, there's plausible deniability and/or somebody else takes the fall if the decision turns out poorly.

He is not going to suddenly change his MO -- especially when the stakes are so high.

Nope, he'll see how the political winds are blowing by sticking up the proverbial wet finger, and go from there. No way in hell is he going to stop the Israeli's from doing what they're going to do. Hell hath no fury like a Jooooo on a mission.  :-)

Actually, that plays into his hands.  Hell, it's why he needed 16 HOURS to decide whether or not to go after Bin Laden.

If it does happen and it comes out okay (no attack, nobody gets hurt, sitation defused) Barry gets a victory lap and quite possibly a second term.

If it fails, he points at Panetta, et al, and says, "Hey, it was THEIR advice!" and he thinks his hands are clean.
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Actually, that plays into his hands.  Hell, it's why he needed 16 HOURS to decide whether or not to go after Bin Laden.

If it does happen and it comes out okay (no attack, nobody gets hurt, sitation defused) Barry gets a victory lap and quite possibly a second term.

If it fails, he points at Panetta, et al, and says, "Hey, it was THEIR advice!" and he thinks his hands are clean.

IIRC, it took a lot longer than 16 hours for him to decide to go after bin Laden. If the accounts I read can be believed (multiple sources, but there's some doubt about that), they were talking about bin Laden for months. The SEALs had taken at least a month to develop plans and train on the very real 95% certainty that the Abbottabad compound was bin Laden's.

My point is essentially this -- when and if Israel unleashes an attack, Barry will do NOTHING initially. He will not order attacks on either Israel or Iran and I have serious doubts that he would actually leave standing orders for the U.S. to defend themselves - commanders would do that anyway, orders or no orders, but Barry would not put his ass on the line one way or another.

But should a political opportunity come his way, say for example he sends an envoy to Israel and a cease-fire comes out of that, you betcha he'll climb on that like John Holmes on Seka.

Maybe we're both saying the same thing. Dunno. But Barry's MO in taking action first or even second? NFW.
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How can you tell? She looks like she's always on or in the rag.

She's off it one day a month....usually while on vacation without Obama.
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Actually, that plays into his hands.  Hell, it's why he needed 16 HOURS to decide whether or not to go after Bin Laden.

If it does happen and it comes out okay (no attack, nobody gets hurt, sitation defused) Barry gets a victory lap and quite possibly a second term.

If it fails, he points at Panetta, et al, and says, "Hey, it was THEIR advice!" and he thinks his hands are clean.

Poor Obama, he picked one heck of  time frame to become President. 

It was obvious to me when he was pulled off the golf course to watch Bin Ladens take down. He looked scared to death,  a what am I doing here look .  He did not march into the room full of confidence,  he sat in the back slumped down in his chair, a crap if this mission fails there goes my Presidency look. 

Seems Someone forgot to tell him about the come as you are party everyone else knew about it and he was caught in the shower.

Strange but Obama reminds me of Frank Burns on MASH, Frank a good surgeon, Obama a good comunity fund raiser, but as a leader he is still trying to herd cats--- a train wreck.   

Far as the saber rattling all over the world, Obama is really WAY out of his league.  I seriously doubt any of the Brass trust him with anything but what the Public knows, he is so far out of the loop, is it any wonder Israel will not inform him of their plans???  [I bet the Pentigon knows what Isreal plans may be but are keeping it under their hats.]

We will know when there is a slow but steady Exodus of our politicians family's leaving DC to go on unplanned vacations.   Word will get around in the military and our Brass will not be making long range plans to stay put.

Allot of leaves will be canceled and odd orders to the enlisted will be issued.  Insane rumors will go around to cause smoke and fire so the real objective will be hidden.  There is nothing like scuttle butt to cloud the waters.

Some Senior Brass will be left out of the loop, the [NTK ] need to know, will take the EGO out of some very high ups.

Very few Brass will know anything, our CIA, and all intelligence outside our military will be kept in the dark.   All leaders worry about their power being taken by their military, for good reason.   Any week or indecisive leader will be ushered out not so gently by their military.  The allegiance is first to the country, then to the Leader.

I see how Obama is trying to weeken our military by forcing out the senior that know what they are doing ,men and woman, the less Seniors the more just the book learning folks fill their spot and the safer he is from military revolt.

Little hands on training------Yet on the other side there was the

Big complaint from EX as an instructor at NPS on Mare Island, the kids had the hands on training but had problems with the math and theory.  [ this was in the time before the calculator was available, still used the side rule.]

What a mess, Obama needs to turn our experts on War loose to do their jobs, the time for talking is over. 

Remember the two Japanese Ambassadors that sat in the White House to speak to our president not knowing Pearl Harbor was Bombed.   

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That doesn't fit into Barry's MO. He's spent his entire political life avoiding decision-making and ensuring that where he absolutely, positively has to make a decision, there's plausible deniability and/or somebody else takes the fall if the decision turns out poorly.

Hnoestly, I don't think anyone to whom the Iran-Israel situation matters thinks that the 'Hold off until after the election and give diplomacy several more chances' approach will accomplish a G--damned thing except to give Iran 8 more months to close the deal on finishing a weapon.  It will be positively received by a variety of very short-term thinkers across our political spectrum who just don't want any warfare, or alternatively any international economic disruption, but who are too stupid to see that neither Israel nor Iran are thinking about the short term.   
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Although I think we should have attacked Iran 30 years ago (Anyone remember 1979?), I don't look for Barry to do anything. He probably thinks he can give them a speech and settle it. Or he will apologize on Israels behalf.

Another note: Obama isn't a egomaniac, he is a megalomaniac.

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Although I think we should have attacked Iran 30 years ago (Anyone remember 1979?), I don't look for Barry to do anything. He probably thinks he can give them a speech and settle it. Or he will apologize on Israels behalf.

Another note: Obama isn't a egomaniac, he is a megalomaniac.

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To late...I read a German report somewhere that Iran has already tested a small nuclear device in North Korea in 2010.

I guess they're just making material for more now.
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To late...I read a German report somewhere that Iran has already tested a small nuclear device in North Korea in 2010.

I guess they're just making material for more now.

Does this mean that NK will wait for the war to start then invade SK ?   Is this what it is all about, split our forces so we cannot put full man power into Israel or help SK ????

Sounds like a PLAN, keep us talking and making all kinds of diplomatic gobbledygook, put us at ease and then both Iran and NK strike at the same time??

Naturally the Japanese are in danger, Korea has never forgiven the Japanese or has Taiwan and parts of China. Not to mention Indonesia or the Philippines.

Israel has never forgiven Obama for the extreme act of discourtesy given to them by Obama.  Nor have I, darn wars have started on less then how Obama treated his guest.   

So many scenarios of what can happen, who will Aline with who, what strange bedfellows will come about, as in who will India back in a all out WW3 ?  If Russia is smart it Will back us as the Muslims are converging on them.   

This issue to rile up Africa with all the Muslim inhabitants, not to mention Europe and America Muslims.

Obama is no Teddy Roosevelt, he cannot speak softly and carry a big stick.   Obama is a Don Knotts with one bullet in his gun, he just may shoot himself in the foot.

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Obama is no Teddy Roosevelt, he cannot speak softly and carry a big stick.    Obama is a Don Knotts with one bullet in his gun, he just may shoot himself in the foot.


He has a small, soft, stick and his one bullet is a blank.
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