Time To Tax the Damn Churches NOW

[Freeper]

we can do it
 
Time To Tax the Damn Churches NOW

they keep throwing their weight into politics and minding everybody else's business, its time they damn well pay up.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1002299170

How about taxing the unions? They keep throwing their weight into politics and minding everybody else's business, its time they paid up.

we can do it
13. How About Everytime They Stick Their Nose In Politics

The rate goes up 10%. Every time they mind other people's business - up 10%.....then maybe they'd STFU
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Same goes for the unions.

russspeakeasy
3. And the rate should be.............................

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RKP5637
5. Yep!!! Many of these churches today are major corporations. And they

wield tremendous political power. It's ridiculous that they are tax free.

Some of the churches around here look like they should be sitting on wall street. It pisses me off when I see these mammoth churches tax free with the elite in the church raking in huge salaries.

Once again unions.

[Splashdown]

Um, Freeper.

They agree with the unions. So the unions are ok.

I don't remember DUmmie outrage when that dumbass nun was providing cover for Obama. Where were the "tax-the-church" morons then?

DUmmies piss me off sometimes.

[Ballygrl]

Black Baptist Churches notoriously involve themselves in Politics, they tell people who to vote for, the Catholic Church doesn't.

[BEG]

Black Baptist Churches notoriously involve themselves in Politics, they tell people who to vote for, the Catholic Church doesn't.

But Nancy Pelosi tells the catholic church how to vote.

[obumazombie]

A little excommunication should be in order.

[jtyangel]

Oh that's right, DUmmies are for punish and reward taxes; the same kind that punishes married, working parents and rewards single, irresponsible breeders. In this case, reward organization like planned (un)parenthood and punish the churches. Keerist what a bunch of a fascist morons.

[miskie]

According to the Democrat's definition of 'Separation of Church and State' - taxing them is wrong. And, as mentioned above - tax the unions, they are neither church nor state and they wield tremendous political power.

[Mr Mannn]

Catholics embarrased their President. Catholics must be punished. The state must control religious speech.
Constitutional seperation means nothing to an anti-religious bigots of the democratic party. They will trample freedom and God given rights to punish those who stary from the path.

[JohnnyReb]

Why not tax all those liberal charities that collect lots of funds, overpay the executives and pass on only a few percent for the cause they claim to help.

[ChuckJ]

we can do it
 
Time To Tax the Damn Churches NOW

they keep throwing their weight into politics and minding everybody else's business, its time they damn well pay up.

I enjoy when they make a demand with "now" in all caps. It's like they think that they can really accomplish something with that "NOW".

But what do I know. Maybe it actually works. I'll give it a try...

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Hey DUers, stop being stupid, treasonous leeches who are the laughing stocks of the internet NOW
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I don't feel like rowing over to the island this morning so I'll let you other brave CCers check in at the DUmp to see if it worked.

[MrsSmith]

Category:501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations...

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Al-Anon/Alateen
American Palestine Public Affairs Forum
American Task Force on Palestine
Americans for Peace and Tolerance
Amideast
Animal People
Appalachian Search and Rescue Conference
Arsalyn Foundation
The Art of Yoga Project
Association of Young Americans
Atlas Service Corps
Big Brothers Big Sisters of America
Big Brothers Big Sisters of New York City
Center for Progressive Leadership
Commonwealth Public Broadcasting Corporation
Earth's Birthday Project
Educational Enrichment for Romanian Children
Elder Wisdom Circle
Elias Fund
Empower Orphans
EndPoverty.org
Equal Rights Washington...

Go ahead, DUmmies.  Do your level best to get 501 c 3 organizations taxed.  You'll make the whole county better that way.  

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

It's only rape if you complain so stop complining or I'll rape you.</du>

[vesta111]

Go ahead, DUmmies.  Do your level best to get 501 c 3 organizations taxed.  You'll make the whole county better that way.  

OH I had a good answer to how Churches should stay to saving the soul of the individual----Then I realised that were it not for the Northern Churches getting involved with the Civil War, America would not have been what it is today.

Churches that went nuts during the McCarthy hearings and claiming foul.  Darn a good member of the ministry went under to claims the preachers were commies as they defended the rights of Americans.

I am talking about the well educated Pastors that  saw threats to the churches from the crazy witch hunters of that era looking for a commie under any rock.  Our Church lost one in that time, I have no idea what he said but he was run out of town.  Grandma cried for a couple weeks, I was too young to understand at that time.

What did he say, one has the right to the worship of their choice, one has the right to belong to any political party of their choice.

  I think the biggest problem at that time was when Lucile Ball was dragged in as a communist.  What a time that was I see from documentaries at that time.  She at a teen signed a Communist membership to please her grandfather.  The Goons found out and dragged her into televised hearings about anti-American hearings. 

She had seen some of the brightest and best of the Movie industry destroyed for less then that.  Artists, composers and writers destroyed.  To be black listed was to destroy a carear in any form.

Good old Desi, a Cuban husband came before the Committee with fire in his eyes in defence of his wife and both their carears.

My Lucy is only Red by the color of her hair, and that comes from a bottle.

We have never in American History come so close to loosing our freedon of speech or expression , faced fear for speaking our mind as we did then. 

This elected Senator while claiming he was protecting America from Communism was in fact trying to instill all the things Communism stood for.  No freedom but to follow the party line.

So very close for America but we had One Senator send him down in a ball of flames when asked,    Sir, have you no shame.

Hard time for America and the Churches, the Catholic church had little problem at that time the Mass was spoken in Latin, the Protestant Churches took the brunt some survived, some went under. 

Strange as it is I today believe had McCarthy not picked on our Lucy, he may have well have caused great harm to America.--------We all at that time LOVED LUCY and in Church or out, this was his down fall.

[USA4ME]

How many times have the primitives demanded that the gov't not impose laws upon churches that violate the beliefs of their particular faith?

Zero, just like their Dear Leader.

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[DumbAss Tanker]

OK, hit Media Matters, the Gates Foundation, Soros's foundation, Mikey Moore's foundation, and all those other low-life rich tax dodgers at the same time and I'm down with it.

[thundley4]

OK, hit Media Matters, the Gates Foundation, Soros's foundation, Mikey Moore's foundation, and all those other low-life rich tax dodgers at the same time and I'm down with it.

I'm not.  Church exemption has a basis in the First Amendment.  501c exemptions are just laws passed by congress.

[Karin]

ChuckJ, it didn't work.  But, a smackdown happens over there that was enjoyable to read.  Looked like One Guy who Knows what he's Talking About vs. 100 howler monkies.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm not.  Church exemption has a basis in the First Amendment. 

I don't believe it says they don't have to pay taxes, just that Congress shall not make any law restricting the free exercise of religion or establishing a State religion, pretty much everything else after that comes from those Supreme Court decisions everybody claims to hate when the other side uses them.  And, unless churches are exempted in the 16th Amendment, which is more recent and of the same level of authority, the power is arguably there anyway.  Of course all the small churches would still end up not paying shit, since every dime they collect gets spent to keep them open, and anything they do collect in excess of building and operating expenses tends to get used for missions or charitable work, which could still be made deductible before arriving at any taxable balance.

[thundley4]

I don't believe it says they don't have to pay taxes, just that Congress shall not make any law restricting the free exercise of religion or establishing a State religion, pretty much everything else after that comes from those Supreme Court decisions everybody claims to hate when the other side uses them.  And, unless churches are exempted in the 16th Amendment, which is more recent and of the same level of authority, the power is arguably there anyway.  Of course all the small churches would still end up not paying shit, since every dime they collect gets spent to keep them open, and anything they do collect in excess of building and operating expenses tends to get used for missions or charitable work, which could still be made deductible before arriving at any taxable balance.

Which came first, the rule about churches not backing candidates or their exemption?  I don't know, but it seems that the left always try to tie the two together.  But it does see disingenuous to say that churches can not back candidates when most other 501 exempt organizations do so.

[zeitgeist]

Why not tax all those liberal charities that collect lots of funds, overpay the executives and pass on only a few percent for the cause they claim to help.

Screw that, let New York tax the UN.  There would only be smoke from their previous location they would be moving so fast.

[Mike220]

Screw that, let New York tax the UN.  There would only be smoke from their previous location they would be moving so fast.

I'd settle for them paying their damn traffic and parking tickets at this point. 

[movie buff]

Oh that's right, DUmmies are for punish and reward taxes; the same kind that punishes married, working parents and rewards single, irresponsible breeders. In this case, reward organization like planned (un)parenthood and punish the churches. Keerist what a bunch of a fascist morons.

Also, the kind that punishes hard- working, successful people and rewards lazy parasites who haven't worked a day in their lives.
RKP makes for a wonderful Communist: Combining his hatred of the Christian faith with his love of class warfare and demonization of successful people.

[JohnnyReb]

OK, hit Media Matters, the Gates Foundation, Soros's foundation, Mikey Moore's foundation, and all those other low-life rich tax dodgers at the same time and I'm down with it.

You can't Gore the DUmmies sacred cows...they want steak off your cow.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Which came first, the rule about churches not backing candidates or their exemption?  I don't know, but it seems that the left always try to tie the two together.  But it does see disingenuous to say that churches can not back candidates when most other 501 exempt organizations do so.

Yeah...and a rule which does not seem to apply to Black churches, as long as they promote Democrat candidates, to boot, which is something that really pisses me off.

[notaDUmmie]

A little excommunication should be in order.

I agree 100%.  I don't see how Kathleen Seblius and Nancy Pelosi haven't been excommunicated.  I figure that Teddy Kennedy must have made one hell of a good confession before he checked out, otherwise, how could he possibly have had a Mass for his funeral?