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Offline Ptarmigan

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Era Of One Term Presidents
« on: December 03, 2011, 03:59:27 PM »
Era of one term presidents. If we are heading into that area, it is not unprecedented.

1837-1869 (32 years)
Martin van Buren to Andrew Johnson
Broke by Ulysses S Grant in 1869

However, Grant would be the only two full term president

1877-1901 (24 years)
Rutherford B. Hayes to William McKinley
Broke by Theodore Roosevelt after McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Grover Cleveland was president on two separate terms, not consecutively. I do not consider Cleveland a two full term president as a result.

1921-1933 (12 years)
Warren G. Harding to Herbert Hoover
Broke by Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was the longest serving President.

1961 to 1981 (20 years)
John F. Kennedy to Jimmy Carter
Broke by Ronald Reagan.

It is rare to see more than one two term president in history. We had two two full term Presidents with Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. There were three two full term Presidents with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe.
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 06:40:10 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on December 03, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
Era of one term presidents. If we are heading into that area, it is not unprecedented.

1837-1869 (32 years)
Martin van Buren to Andrew Johnson
Broke by Ulysses S Grant in 1869

However, Grant would be the only two full term president

1877-1901 (24 years)
Rutherford B. Hayes to William McKinley
Broke by Theodore Roosevelt after McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Grover Cleveland was president on two separate terms, not consecutively. I do not consider Cleveland a two full term president as a result.

1921-1933 (12 years)
Warren G. Harding to Herbert Hoover
Broke by Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was the longest serving President.

1961 to 1981 (20 years)
John F. Kennedy to Jimmy Carter
Broke by Ronald Reagan.

It is rare to see more than one two term president in history. We had two two full term Presidents with Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. There were three two full term Presidents with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe.

Wonder if being a premature ejaculator has anything to do with that? :-)

FDR probably couldn't do anything sexually in a normal way so he was reelected several times...Right? :-)
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 06:50:06 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on December 03, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
Era of one term presidents. If we are heading into that area, it is not unprecedented.

1837-1869 (32 years)
Martin van Buren to Andrew Johnson
Broke by Ulysses S Grant in 1869

However, Grant would be the only two full term president

1877-1901 (24 years)
Rutherford B. Hayes to William McKinley
Broke by Theodore Roosevelt after McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Grover Cleveland was president on two separate terms, not consecutively. I do not consider Cleveland a two full term president as a result.

1921-1933 (12 years)
Warren G. Harding to Herbert Hoover
Broke by Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was the longest serving President.

1961 to 1981 (20 years)
John F. Kennedy to Jimmy Carter
Broke by Ronald Reagan.

It is rare to see more than one two term president in history. We had two two full term Presidents with Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. There were three two full term Presidents with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe.

Technically, Nixon was a two term president since he was reelected.  He just didn't finish his second term.
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 06:57:23 PM »
I'm bored, and am going to do this right off the top of my head.

I can do the kings and queens of England in reverse order from memory, too.

Two-term presidents:

1789-1797 George Washington
1801-1809 Thomas Jefferson
1809-1817 James Madison
1817-1825 James Monroe
1829-1837 Andrew Jackson
1869-1877 Ulysses Grant
1885-1889
1893-1897 Grover Cleveland (sorry, Ptarmigan; a two-term president)
1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1933-1945 Franklin Roosevelt
1953-1961 Dwight Eisenhower
1981-1989 Ronald Reagan
1993-2001 William Clinton
2001-2009 George Bush
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 07:18:02 PM »
It's Saturday night, it's slow, so I'll show off for Ptarmigan.

Just from the top of my head.

House of Normandy

1066-1087 William I
1087-1100 William II
1100-1135 Henry I
1135-1141 Stephen
1141-1141 Matilda
1141-1154 Stephen (again)

House of Plantagenent

1154-1189 Henry II
1189-1199 Richard I
1199-1216 John
1216-1272 Henry III
1272-1307 Edward I
1307-1327 Edward II
1327-1377 Edward III
1377-1399 Richard II
1399-1413 Henry IV
1413-1422 Henry V
1422-1461 Henry VI
1461-1470 Edward IV
1470-1471 Henry VI (again)
1471-1483 Edward IV
1483-1483 Edward V
1483-1485 Richard III

House of Tudor

1485-1509 Henry VII
1509-1547 Henry VIII
1547-1553 Edward VI
1553-1553 Lady Jane Grey
1553-1558 Mary I
1558-1603 Elizabeth I

House of Stuart

1603-1625 James I
1625-1649 Charles I
1649-1660 the republic
1660-1685 Charles II
1685-1688 James II
1688-1694 William III and Mary II
1694-1702 William III
1702-1714 Anne

House of Hannover

1714-1727 George I
1727-1760 George II
1760-1820 George III
1820-1830 George IV
1830-1837 William IV
1837-1901 Victoria

House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Windsor)

1901-1910 Edward VII
1910-1936 George V
1936-1936 Edward VIII
1936-1952 George VI
1952-20xx Elizabeth II

I can do their wives and husbands too.

The following were deposed:

Stephen in 1141
Matilda in 1141 (Stephen restored)
Edward II in 1327 (murdered after abdication by having a red-hot poker shoved up his you-know-what)
Richard II in 1399 (murdered about two years later)
Henry VI in 1460
Edward IV in 1470 (Henry VI restored)
Henry VI in 1471 (murdered shortly after deposition)
Edward V in 1483 (either murdered or died of disease circa 1485-1486)
Lady Jane Grey in 1553 (executed some months after deposition)
Charles I in 1649 (executed some months after deposition)
James II in 1688 (lived on for a couple of decades more)
Edward VIII in 1936 (abdicated, lived until 1972)
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 03:26:07 AM »
They didn't have Diebold back then, so it doesn't matter.

Anyway, the point I want to make is that you have to be a total f*up to only serve one term in modern times. Johnson was so bad, for instance, he didn't run for a second term. Ford and Carter, likewise, while GWH Bush was basically coasting off of Reagan but governing like Ford/Dole/McCain/Romney.

If we have a candidate who, at the end of the day, governs with in a consistently conservative manner, then he / she will be reelected. It's that simple; Ronald Reagan drew that map. More importantly, however, is for the president to maintain the consistency so that Congress maintains a conservative bent as well.

The newer conservatives will be more Constitutional, by the way, which may actually seem LESS conservative in many ways but actually lead us to a more consistently American "keep your hands off my money and stop snooping on me" era.
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 09:54:49 AM »
A bit premature to call it an 'Era.'  Even aside from the fact the incompetent dope could still get re-elected, these things are one-offs every four years that have everything to do with the man and the times, and little if anything to do with trends of tenure.
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 10:47:08 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on December 03, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
It's Saturday night, it's slow, so I'll show off for Ptarmigan.

Just from the top of my head.


Whenever I do that, all I get is a handful of hair.
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Re: Era Of One Term Presidents
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 11:45:41 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 03, 2011, 06:50:06 PM
Technically, Nixon was a two term president since he was reelected.  He just didn't finish his second term.
True.

Quote from: franksolich on December 03, 2011, 06:57:23 PM
I'm bored, and am going to do this right off the top of my head.

I can do the kings and queens of England in reverse order from memory, too.

Two-term presidents:

1789-1797 George Washington
1801-1809 Thomas Jefferson
1809-1817 James Madison
1817-1825 James Monroe
1829-1837 Andrew Jackson
1869-1877 Ulysses Grant
1885-1889
1893-1897 Grover Cleveland (sorry, Ptarmigan; a two-term president)
1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1933-1945 Franklin Roosevelt
1953-1961 Dwight Eisenhower
1981-1989 Ronald Reagan
1993-2001 William Clinton
2001-2009 George Bush

True, he did serve two full terms, but they were not consecutive.
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