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Offline Freeper

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When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« on: October 20, 2011, 08:36:36 PM »
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Oct-20-11 08:39 PM
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When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote for what the majority
   
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of their constituants desire but are constantly voting against those desires in order to continue feathering their own nests...

isn't that taxation without representation?


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You mean like the health care bill?

Funny you should bring up taxation without representation, considering that is exactly what you want to do to corporations. You not only want to tax them to death, you want to make it so they can't lobby to try to protect their interests.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Oct-20-11 09:07 PM
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2. So if we could get a major portion of citizens to refuse to pay taxes based on that premise
   
would they simply put us all in jail?

How are you going to do that since they withhold your money to pay your taxes?

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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 08:39:10 PM »
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Thu Oct-20-11 09:07 PM
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2. So if we could get a major portion of citizens to refuse to pay taxes based on that premise
You mean like 47%  That sounds like a nice, large number. :devious:
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 08:43:59 PM »
Don't they need a job first in order to pay taxes?
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 08:47:15 PM »
Representation without taxation is just as wrong.
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 08:49:55 PM »
How about that "majority" just refuse to accept taxpayer subsidies?
That'll learn those banksters a thing or potato.   /off
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 05:31:18 AM »
Suggested reading for the DUmmy - Edmund Burke on the difference between a representative and a delegate...not that the DUmmy would be able to cope, Burke may have been a whig but have some sense.
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 08:33:05 AM »
Quote from: Aristotelian on October 21, 2011, 05:31:18 AM
Suggested reading for the DUmmy - Edmund Burke on the difference between a representative and a delegate...not that the DUmmy would be able to cope, Burke may have been a Whig but have some sense.

Uh oh.

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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 09:44:38 AM »
Lurking DUmmies,why is it so difficult to grasp that a representative is elected by a majority in their district.
It means that he/she is most likely voting for the beliefs of their constituants.
If they stop doing that or are found to have been dishonest in their campaigns as to how they will act they get voted out (nadin the name Alan Grayson if you need to research that).
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2011, 10:27:10 AM »
I would love to be a fly on the wall when the DUmmie actually sits down to figure their federal tax liability and they realize they are the 47%!

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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 10:43:16 AM »
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Oct-20-11 08:39 PM
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When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote for what the majority
   
of their constituants desire but are constantly voting against those desires in order to continue feathering their own nests...

isn't that taxation without representation?

Not when you keep electing them. Here is the difference between the Tea Party and you OWies. The Tea Party got people together to vote as a group to get those congressmen and women who weren't doing what their constituents wanted out of office. It's called working with in the system. You OWies just want to sit around and bitch and moan and hope that other people will do what you want.
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 11:02:35 AM »
Well, I've been taxed without representation for a long time since my representatives in congress (Mike Honda) and the senate (Boxer and Feinstein) stand for pretty much everything I'm opposed to.
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 12:12:38 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 21, 2011, 08:33:05 AM
Uh oh.

Your advice unfortunately isn't going to fly, sir.

I've put in bold those parts of your comment a primitive knows nothing about.

I know you're on the other side of the seas, sir, and might find it incredible, but trust me, the primitives really don't know any of this stuff.

I bet nadin the Google queen could learn them primitives something about that stuff. And yes...by learn them I mean tell them stuff that is essentially nonsensical.
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Re: When is it "taxation without representation"? When my congresspeople dont vote f
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 01:02:05 PM »
Just because you don't get your way doesn't mean you're not represented.  In every election where there are more than one candidate and more than one position on the issues, someone will "feel" unrepresented.  It's part of living in a republic, and it would be true if we voted directly on every single issue as well.  What's more unfair than being misrepresented from time to time is having people that receive more government assistance than they pay in be represented at all.  The founders KNEW that this exact situation would kill the country.
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