http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2066113Oh my.
Before I go any further, I'd like to remind others, and lurking primitives, there's more entries in "the secret diaries of nadin," in the DUmping Ground, a sub-forum of the DUmpster, a motherload of good information about the primitives. I used to have the link on my signature line, but that's valuable real-estate best used for other purposes, and so I took it off.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,63908.0.htmlOkay.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-06-11 09:50 AM
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On the October Movement of 68 and OWS (Yes there are parallels)
When the student movement emerged in Mexico City the big question was... who are the leaders? When OWS started the PD asked who are the leaders? Anybody knows? I don't know yet.
The student movement was a summer of peaceful marches with people carrying book bags, and lunch bags... the OWS has been peaceful and carryng bookbags and preparing food.
Here is where it gets dangerous. And I doubt Obama will get involved like the Mexican President did, but Bloomberg is... we need a reaction, the powers that be need a reaction. So in mexico they tried to sell guns to the protestors and tnt. All they sold were two .22 and a little TNT... here the cops are kettling the protesters and forcing them onto the street, where they can be arrested.
In the end, the Mexican government used snipers to fire at the Army... for the army to defend itself. That was kind of a strange way of doing it, but it worked... here we will see agent provocateours enter the protest and get a response.
Powers that be have no idea what to do with valid demands that are mostly peacefully issued. This is universal, and powers that be do not know how to react to pressures from the people, nor do they surrender power peacefully. I much rather prefer peaceful revolutions... but Kennedy comes to mind... those who prevent peaceful revolutions ensure the violent ones.
UNDERSTANDING this reality does not mean one wants one... been there, done that, got the nightmares. I really do not want a violent revolution... but DC pretty much wake up soon... and the political elites realize that what we have is a pressure cooker that is starting to boil over. There are ways to release the pressure ... and if that is not done... we will have an explosion. That is what nightmares are made off.
Oh and the demands are not that hard to comprehend. Many of us have made them here... reforming the system so it is responsive to the people is not that hard to comprehend or articulate. Those who still claim that they don't know what the demands are... well are being coy quite honestly.
After which nadin spouts her usual nonsense.
And thankfully, one
finally reaches the end of the campfire.
Javaman (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-06-11 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #16
17. Yes, too bad the protesters in the US only aimed their anger at only the war...
This time around, it certainly is aimed at the system. wall street controls everything, from the food we eat to the bullets that are shot.
If we can now pick up more of the people on the right and unify, this will be a force to be reckoned with.
I suspect, aside from the halfwits on the news trying to push, "they don't even know what they are protesting about" meme, I believe we will see a concerted effort by wall street and the like to maintain the divide between the left and the right.
the very last thing they want is a unified voice.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-06-11 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. It's emerging and that scares them to no end
Ho-hum.
And don't forget to check out "the secret diaries of nadin;" link at the top here.
