What if Hermain Cain wins the GOP nomination?

[vesta111]

I do not care if the president is Black, White, Asian, or Latino, I just want a successful man or woman in charge of the country that knows Business, that can smell a shylock 3 miles away.

I would support and send my nickles and dimes to a Cain/ Trump ticket in a heart beat. The world has changed, we have many statesmen to travel the world on our dime and keep things under control over seas.    We need people that understand money, how to make it and benefit our country, not some slick, fast talking person interested in their own EGO and status as President.

We need a President that has in the past chosen wisely his advisers, over come bad decisions and learned from their mistakes to go on pick them selves up and do things different next time to come out on top.

America is now a country that must put defence as top priority, then Economics, we cannot stand as a nation if we allow any threats to our homeland be it illegal aliens or those from without that wish us harm.

We NEED a President that knows the bare knuckle fights for money  all the dirty tricks others may try to pull, and if necessary pull a few dirty tricks on them in turn.

We need a President that takes their job seriously to protect our country and insure where every nickle and dime goes to to improve our society.    This President will not be popular with the Politicos but the people will love him/her   and in no way will be become bankrupt like Europe.

One must live with a budget, so must our government. Taxation based on consumption, those that pay no tax today will find a 10-20% tax on everything they buy and that includes the tax shelters of the rich that register their autos, boats and planes and buildings as a tax write off as business expense.

No more federal income tax, states may or may not tax as they wish.  We pay taxes on SS benefits today, unemployment, and much more.   Cut out that tax and tax what people actually consume.

Darn, I am city taxed for $1,250 bucks a year over the homeowners tax as we are a donor town to the schools in other County, was this not why the Lottery was voted in, to support small town schools.----Wonder where all that money is going when the schools don't seem to be getting one penny of it??????

We need some smart business people, accountants and the states to get involved in where our money is going and why we are so in debt.

The inheritance tax only effects the little guy, the wealthy have enough tax shelters to end up not paying anything at all.   We little guys if we in hearate as much as a dollar have to pay a tax on that.

Rant over for now until I find other other examples to bitch about.

[AprilRazz]

Just look at how they treat Allen West.

I remember when those racists in MD voted in a white guy over a black guy for senate a few years ago. But it was OK with them because Steele was a Republican. We all remember what the dim party did to him.

[NHSparky]

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9. A straw poll is one thing...
   
GOPhers don't actually VOTE for blacks.

You are correct in a way, DUmmy.  We don't vote for "blacks".  We vote for CANDIDATES who best represent our views.  Never have I stepped into a voting booth and gone, "I wonder what color skin this guy has?"  If a person shares my values, I vote for them, regardless of skin tone.

DUmmies, OTOH, think race/sexuality/insert group here triumphs all else.

[Karin]

I will as well, if he's still there when New York's turn comes up.

And I will too. 

[JohnnyReb]

I'll vote for him in the primary if he is still on the ballot when it's Illinois' turn.

A lot will be determined by the SC GOP primary, since I think it is still the first one.  I'm guessing any black conservatives will vote for Cain along with some whites. Some whites means a lot of whites unless there is a more conservative man on the list.

Wouldn't that be a hoot...the state that still flys the Stars and Bars on the state house grounds goes hog wild for a black presidential GOP candidate. That would show the liberals and the republicans that people want conservative government, not socialism.....well....scratch the liberals, they never learn.

[SherryBaby]

The more I read about Cain the more I like him.  I would vote for him in a minute.  I hope he makes it!

[Rebel]

The more I read about Cain the more I like him.  I would vote for him in a minute.  I hope he makes it!

http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2011/09/herman-cain-know-your-2012-candidates.html

[Erasmus]

Not being black, I can't try and pretend that I know how they would feel.

Ask Nadin.  She was black once.  In the meantime, try ignoring race.  The republicans and conservatives do.

[Splashdown]

The more I read about Cain the more I like him.  I would vote for him in a minute.  I hope he makes it!

He's getting some positive play even in the MSM...

Even though he's known as the "pizza" candidate for his years as head of Godfather's Pizza, his background is much broader than that. After he graduated from Morehouse College with a degree in mathematics and a minor in chemistry in 1968, Cain landed a job as a ballistics analyst for the Department of the Navy, where he was responsible for the calculations that ensured battleship rockets hit their targets.

"It's not an easy thing to do," he said.

Cain later completed a master's degree in computer science and entered the business world where he led several companies--most recently Godfather's--and chaired the National Restaurant Association and the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. His résumé--from mathematician and rocket scientist to restaurateur and now politician--isn't exactly a typical one for a presidential candidate. But Cain said that while his presidential run may look unlikely from the outside, it's actually part of his larger career trajectory of seeking out new ways to test himself.

link

The guy truly is impressive.

[SherryBaby]

Is it possible we have a true conservative Republican in the race?  This guy not only says so but apparently has the history to prove so as well.  

[Gina]

Oh pizzza    I want me some gooey pizza

[Rebel]

Is it possible we have a true conservative Republican in the race?  This guy not only says so but apparently has the history to prove so as well.  

This happened in Clinton's first term:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WP5dYfBBzU[/youtube]


Herman made Clinton look like a fool, and then got cut off.

[Wineslob]

- He has being a "Tom" going for him, but 'baggers will never rally around a black guy.

Ya, I was waiting for that, and it diden't take long. (not the GIF)

[Airwolf]

I'd vote for him in a second. He's just what the country needs. If you have heard him on the radio long before he started to run you would hear more of just how fiscally conservative he is.

[Karin]

I was in my car at 11:30, and Dennis Miller had Cain on his radio show.  Miller's in his corner.  He'd like to do some appearances with him. 

Add to that resume, gospel singer.  Anybody heard the clip?  It was quite a while ago, but awesome!

Mathematics, chemistry, computer science.  Now those are useful majors!  Unlike say, Womyn's studies and Basket Weaving. 

[GOBUCKS]

I was in my car at 11:30, and Dennis Miller had Cain on his radio show.  Miller's in his corner.  He'd like to do some appearances with him. 

Add to that resume, gospel singer.  Anybody heard the clip?  It was quite a while ago, but awesome!

Mathematics, chemistry, computer science.  Now those are useful majors!  Unlike say, Womyn's studies and Basket Weaving. 

I cannot take him seriously as long as he's on that silly 9-9-9 kick. If he'd drop that he could become a formidable figure.

[Erasmus]

I cannot take him seriously as long as he's on that silly 9-9-9 kick. If he'd drop that he could become a formidable figure.

I tend to agree with you, but it's because so many non-business people have run for the office of president that we're not accustomed to hearing pizza franchise-esque marketing tactics in politics.  It sounds like a Little Caesar's commercial.  On the flip side, I can't readily recall any other plans that candidates have put forth.

[SherryBaby]

I tend to agree with you, but it's because so many non-business people have run for the office of president that we're not accustomed to hearing pizza franchise-esque marketing tactics in politics.  It sounds like a Little Caesar's commercial.  On the flip side, I can't readily recall any other plans that candidates have put forth.

That's true!  I heard some other candidate on Hannity (can't even remember who), who was so fired up and going on and on about what needs to be done.  I wanted to scream into the radio, WELL THAN...WHAT!???  Everyone is so quick to say what's wrong or needs to be changed but no one has outlined a clear plan. 9-9-9 may be a little cheesy (no pizza pun intended) but hey, it's something.

[DefiantSix]

That's true!  I heard some other candidate on Hannity (can't even remember who), who was so fired up and going on and on about what needs to be done.  I wanted to scream into the radio, WELL THAN...WHAT!???  Everyone is so quick to say what's wrong or needs to be changed but no one has outlined a clear plan. 9-9-9 may be a little cheesy (no pizza pun intended) but hey, it's something.

+1.

[Erasmus]

That's true!  I heard some other candidate on Hannity (can't even remember who), who was so fired up and going on and on about what needs to be done.  I wanted to scream into the radio, WELL THAN...WHAT!???  Everyone is so quick to say what's wrong or needs to be changed but no one has outlined a clear plan. 9-9-9 may be a little cheesy (no pizza pun intended) but hey, it's something.

The other thing is that I'm not sure I support a national consumption tax while the income tax is still drawing breath.  Because the next democrat run Congress will take 9-9-9 and make it 30-30-30.  At least right now, there's no consumption tax for them to dole out favors with or to raise.

Imagine the absolute mess that would be created by adding a national consumption tax.  Politicians would be able to lower income taxes while raising consumption taxes and you'd hear them blasting "we lowered your taxes".  Imagine the carve-outs that will appear in the consumption tax once it filters its way through the cesspool of Congress.  No taxes for this special interest item or that, consumption tax breaks for welfare recipients and illegal aliens.  There's no limit to the amount of shit that can be piled on top of taxpayers once Herman Cain isn't signing the bills into law.

[DefiantSix]

The only downside I see to Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan is that there is no mechanism to prevent a future Congress/Dept.of Treasury from running any of those 9% figures back up to something hideous.  At some point, if Cain gets a chance at center seat, a repeal of the 16th amendment all together will be a discussion that it will be necessary to have.

[thundley4]

He's on with Megyn Kelly now.

[Karin]

I don't like the 999, because if that were in place, NYers and Californians would then be paying close to 20% sales tax.  Too freaking much.  I agree, he needs to drop this idea, it ends up being too damn much tax, especially for those who face huge property taxes, and state & local taxes. 

[TVDOC]

That's true!  I heard some other candidate on Hannity (can't even remember who), who was so fired up and going on and on about what needs to be done.  I wanted to scream into the radio, WELL THAN...WHAT!???  Everyone is so quick to say what's wrong or needs to be changed but no one has outlined a clear plan. 9-9-9 may be a little cheesy (no pizza pun intended) but hey, it's something.

To an extent I agree......I like Cain's enthusiasm and commitment, however, I don't think for a minute that he's electable.  His comments and lack of experience in foreign policy will kill his candidacy in a real debate on issues.......I once heard him state (in a TV interview), when asked a foreign policy question that "I'll figure that out when I am elected"  That ain't gonna cut it in the troubled world we live in.  Realistically his level of experience in foreign affairs is exactly equal to Obama's. (zero).....we know where that's gotten us.

As a practical matter foreign affairs is the largest and most important part of a president's job.......leadership in that arena has ramifications throughout the remainder of the job description.  Cain, (at least now) has nothing to offer in that vital area.

Further, his 9-9-9 program might sound good, but below the surface it's just naive to think that such a plan could be passed into law without a constitutional amendment to protect us from future administrations/congresses.  It's just not practical politically.

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[Erasmus]

I once heard him state (in a TV interview), when asked a foreign policy question that "I'll figure that out when I am elected"

 

Why not?  Nancy Pelosi doesn't know what is in the bills she votes for until they pass, and Henry "Porky" Waxman can't even hold an intelligent conversation on C-SPAN about bills that he CO-SPONSORS.  But I agree, he should have positions by this stage of the game.

Further, his 9-9-9 program might sound good, but below the surface it's just naive to think that such a plan could be passed into law without a constitutional amendment to protect us from future administrations/congresses.  It's just not practical politically.
doc

Agreed, except that it's a politician's dream.  More levers and knobs to move makes them orgasm.