IndyPragmatist (408 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 10:32 AM
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What if Hermain Cain wins the GOP nomination?
He just won the Florida straw poll, and a lot of people are starting to support him. Unlike everyone else on the GOP ticket, Cain is a likable guy. He doesn't do the negative stuff the others do, and he is pretty clear on what he wants.
So what if he wins the GOP nomination? My former roommate, who is black, supports Obama, but always says he hates when Obama talks to black audiences. He says that Obama presents himself as "you know you will support me, so just got ahead and do it."
How well will this work against Herman Cain? A black man that was raised by black parents and experienced life much more similar to the majority of the black population than Obama. Not being black, I can't try and pretend that I know how they would feel.
Additionally, how would Cain be presented in the black community? Would they try to market him as a "real" black man because he had 2 black parents and experienced a childhood like other black people?
Any thoughts? I think it would create a pretty interesting debate.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2000595Herman Cain scares the hell out of the DUmmies.
lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 10:38 AM
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3. Wow! Are there now black Teabaggers? How many were there?
Edited on Sun Sep-25-11 10:40 AM by lunatica
Or did the teabaggers we've gotten to know suddenly see the light and reject their racism?
The Tea Party has never been about racism.
PSPS (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 10:42 AM
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6. What if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow?
Cain won't win the nomination.
- Straw polls mean nothing. They're really just a beauty contest that gets won by the candidate who buses in the most supporters. Just ask Michele Bachmann, the winner of the Iowa straw poll.
- Cain has never held elected office. Such people don't win GOP or Democratic presidential nominations, only third party. And they always lose in the general election.
- He has being a "Tom" going for him, but 'baggers will never rally around a black guy.
IndyPragmatist (408 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 10:49 AM
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7. not holding office might be his biggest advantage
Most people in America, and especially those on the right, are tired of career politicians. If you've seen even a few minutes of the GOP debates, you know how important having private sector experience is to the voters.
I think being able to say "I've taken charge of a bankrupt company and turned it completely around, I'm ready to turn a bankrupt country around" will be a huge benefit to him.
Obama is constantly criticized by Republicans for not experiencing "real life". Obama went to fancy private schools, then works as a community organizer before becoming a public sector leech. Cain is the anti-Obama in this sense.
Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 11:21 AM
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8. What if? ...
When faced with the choice between two black guys, the teabaggers will sit the election out in droves
I wonder how Allen West won, if all the teabaggers sat out in droves.
the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 12:02 PM
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9. A straw poll is one thing...
GOPhers don't actually VOTE for blacks.
Dead last in every primary.
That's why Allen West and Tim Jones from SC lost, right?

Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 12:04 PM
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10. Then my colon would be finally free of those flying monkeys Updated at 11:52 AM
The point about Herman Cain is not that he's a black man. He's a rich man who ran a very successful business and doesn't understand jack shit about how government works. I judge him by the content of his lack of character.
Better to have a man who doesn't understand how govt works than a man who doesn't understand business trying to fix the economy.
Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-25-11 12:07 PM
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11. Then we have a shot at winning the south
since many GOPers won't vote for him no matter what. The money would also be cut short.
No person of color is going to be presented as a "real" anything while spouting conservative talking points.
It would be an Obama landslide IMO.
Keep telling yourself that lie and when Herman Cain is POTUS you will be in total shock.