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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2011, 05:53:18 PM »
Someone forgot to pay the bill :rofl:

****ing bitch needs to move her ass to Africa and live like her "ancient" ancestors did.
Umm, for the record, do ANY cavers happen to possess non-ancient ancestors? :rotf:

That woman is SOOOOOO an Obama voter, light on the intellect and high on the entitlement mentality.
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2011, 06:10:43 PM »
Now I'm confused - so it's her parents' ranch?


 ::) the drama
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She seems to have unwittingly parted the curtain a bit, ruining the puppet show.
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2011, 06:27:54 PM »
I don't have a problem with the fact that there is welfare. Every society in recorded history has had provisions far alms. Providing for the indigent is the decent and Christian thing to do.

What I have a problem with is the sheer scope of it in this country. Welfare is ostensibly a temporary safety net, with strings attached. It is supposed to function like the hay bales on a downhill course or an oval race track. This analogy implies that those involved are under their own power and in command of their own destiny and merely provides a cushion when things go awry. The welfare system is staffed by folks who are supposed to guide those they mentor in the system towards getting back on their own two feet and proceeding in life on their own. Originally that is likely they way it was. Was. Past tense.

The sheer scope of it all belies that. The welfare bureaucracy has morphed into being a nanny, not a mentor. The hay bails are no longer a deflection device one may find themselves careened into but a haven one deliberately seeks to plunge into and entrench oneself in.

Safety net? Fine, I'm all for it.

Hammock? Oh *$%@ no!

Save the drama for yo momma and get a damn job.


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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2011, 06:28:40 PM »
Holy crap!  There's your Obama voter.

Why should I have to work and pay for stuff?  Why should I have to pay rent, pay for my car.  Land, water, everything should be free!
I was happy when I wasn't working.

They had electricity in ancient Africa?  I wonder what happened to it?



If it was that good, I would be happy to give a few bucks to get her a one way ticket back.



Now that's just racist...look at all that electricity those white people have to waste.
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2011, 06:29:12 PM »
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I am tired of trying to find a job and make life work by THEIR rules, tired of having my earned income credit TAKEN to pay for student loans on and education that is null & void


A null and void education that involved "wymen studies" perhaps?

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2011, 06:39:09 PM »
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Hey mods: Is there an App for DU?

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...or are you planning one for DU3...? Just curious.


I still need an answer for this one.  Don't you need a smart phone with internet connection to be worried about apps?  I don't have anything more than a $50 phone and it doesn't use apps but my wife and son have iPhones and they talk about apps.

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2011, 06:42:31 PM »
I still need an answer for this one.  Don't you need a smart phone with internet connection to be worried about apps?  I don't have anything more than a $50 phone and it doesn't use apps but my wife and son have iPhones and they talk about apps.

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2011, 06:43:33 PM »
I still need an answer for this one.  Don't you need a smart phone with internet connection to be worried about apps?  I don't have anything more than a $50 phone and it doesn't use apps but my wife and son have iPhones and they talk about apps.

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I have a non smart no I phone that you can get aps for, and unlimited data runs $25 a month, but it's 3G, I doubt that a DUmmy would lower themselves to use anything less than 4g. So odds are she has a Iphone or smart phone.
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2011, 06:44:50 PM »
3g is about the same as using dial-up.  It's pretty bad.
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2011, 06:45:36 PM »
This is kind of what ticks me off, 7 years on Government assistance? I have no problem with temporary assistance for people going through a tough time, or lifetime assistance for someone who is sick or disabled, but 7 years for someone who isn't disabled?
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 06:48:40 PM »
3g is about the same as using dial-up.  It's pretty bad.
3g is fine for me. If I want to do anything major I just wait till I get home and hop on the laptop.
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2011, 06:49:05 PM »
Yes.

So this person who is claiming to live hand to mouth is actually paying for a smart phone with a data plan?  What are the odds that this woman posts those long screeds is doing all that from a smart phone?  Is that a doable thing or are we saying this woman has a smart phone with a data plan AND a home computer with some type of connection?

This is pissing me off.

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2011, 06:50:17 PM »
This is kind of what ticks me off, 7 years on Government assistance? I have no problem with temporary assistance for people going through a tough time, or lifetime assistance for someone who is sick or disabled, but 7 years for someone who isn't disabled?

One can argue that said DUmb**** has a PhD. in "bilking the system."  Call it "Advanced DUmb**** studies."
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2011, 06:53:50 PM »
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FirstLight  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
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Is it really MY fault?   

Yes.

And you're  right, you really are dirt.

Do your kids and the human race a favor. Hang yourself.

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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2011, 06:54:23 PM »
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FirstLight  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-31-11 06:51 PM
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22. Thanks guys...
 
I cried for a few hours, and my mom came over to hug me, god bless her.
Called the rental agency, and since I have such a good rapport with them, they are willing to let me break it up over the month.
In fact, if i wanted to try getting my folks to just buy this place, it could be an option, who knows. Maybe paying property taxes would be easier than this bullshit... even without the 'help' from welfare/foodstamps and HUD...I'd rather be free.

Thing is, I *just* started to get this house to a place where we started to feel 'at home' and i am NOT going to let anyone take that from us!
So I will tap my connections, beat the bushes and see where I can make up the $ difference.

my mom made a good point, she has watched me struggle through this system and bullshit since i was 22, and she said.."you always have this happen, you start getting ahead and feeling good about yourself, and they hamstring you for it." this time, she said, don't let them stop me, don't give up.


so i put on my big girl shoes and my lipstick and showed up for my part time job this afternoon just like I am supposed to.

I refuse to let this damn economy and welfare bashing world get to me. I know how smart i am, and I know I can do right by my kids

so **** 'em
 

I KNEW she would figure it out.  Thank the gods for prostitution to make a quick buck.

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2011, 06:55:02 PM »
One can argue that said DUmb**** has a PhD. in "bilking the system."  Call it "Advanced DUmb**** studies."

This thread is making me furious reading all these things, she's bilking the system and I'm fed-up with people doing that and I'm a freaking member of the Tea Party because I'm fed-up with people bilking the system.

I have a freaking pre-paid cellphone to avoid a monthly plan, I take care of my Mom and pay for her cellphone and her meds because I won't pawn her off on the Government, I view taking care of her as my responsibility. Damn idiots!
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2011, 06:56:12 PM »
Hope and Change!

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2011, 07:11:15 PM »
$600 or so per month will rent you a modest 3 bedroom house in a safe nieghborhood around here. See what all those illegal aliens and freebies cost you DUmmie.
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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2011, 07:17:56 PM »
WTF? Seriously? So 7 years and if you were eligable for ALL of that crap, you were eligible for a Pell Grant too, you know to get that BA in Human Resources Management long before now. At what point was this woman's children going to be a priority as far as providing for them and either A-getting counseling so she could move on with another man who might treat her better, actually love her, and willingly provide for her B--getting an education with all of that assistance and not working(ie lots of freetime) so SHE could provide them with a home? Did it ever occur to her to work towards something so she could celebrate the day and income that no longer made her eligible for section 8?  And the teenager sounds like a loser...no self control(however did kids 100 years ago with 10 siblings and 1 room control themselves?)...no word that he could babysit his younger siblings so mom could, oh I don't know, work and provide for his sorry ass--something tells me he's well on his way to being a sperm donor for several young ladies out there whose offspring we will also be paying for...even with that said, my guess is mom put no requirements on him or any of the kids since she had none placed on her to move forward and strive for something better. I have no sympathy--my rent is less then that and I accept minimal help after my divorce with the goal of celebrating the day I am once again ineligble for any help. And I have not accepted or taken all the help out there available to me either because I don't think its right. I'm still sitting here amazed she wasted 7 years of collecting taxpayer funds and hasn't got herself an education...really?  :thatsright:

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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2011, 07:28:52 PM »
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I even took advantage of welfare to work and drove 150 miles for 6 months to get a certification in HR management in 2008/09...but I can't break into the field because it isn't a BA, so it did me NO good
DUmmies constantly make this mistake, thinking these half-assed training programs are for their benefit.

The chance these programs will ever result in a career is microscopically small.

These training programs are for political publicity, and to channel public funds to the people who run them. Nothing else.

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2011, 08:21:34 PM »
I've known families like the one she is describing.  In one, the mother was always afflicted with some health or mental issue, so was the daughter. 

The two boys were torturing neighborhood animals, until a dog they had torutued got hold of one of them and very nearly killed him.  He has spent his adult life in and out of jail.

The other one was killed when he fell off a pulp train, while his system was loaded with coke and booze.  He had turned seventeen the week before.

The daughter followed the same path as the mother, kids and no husband and a ward of the state.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2011, 08:32:14 PM »
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FirstLight  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
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Is it really MY fault?  

I have a HUD housing voucher since I left my abusive ex 7 years ago. It has been the reason my kids have had a "stable home environment" because since then my employment has been either feast or famine and I have been raising three kids alone and trying to recover my sanity at the same time...
So I moved into this house four years ago - after being moved three years straight by my rental agency. Every time the lease ran out, i was moving, people were selling the houses out from under me or it was furnished and my stuff went into storage, etc...so this house and finall feeling settled was HUGE for us all.

Like you're the only family that's had to move a lot. For military families it's to be expected and you won't find them posting on message boards looking for sympathy as if they're victims of a cold cruel world. You're the one who chose a loser for a husband and then had 3 children with him before you decided he was too abusive to stay with.

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When I moved in, My allowance was 1250-1300 and I was allowed 3 bedrooms. I had to double up two of my kids, but they were the little ones and it was okay, even though it made for some tense times. (boy & girl, and a teen boy +me) When my teen moved out in March, I followed protocol and let HUD know in a timely fashion. My rent didn't change bu it was nice to finally separate the younger siblings. Especially since there had been a law or mandate that said opposite sex siblings shouldn't share after the age of 6 ...they are currently 8 & 9.(I didn;t move the two boys in together because a young boy and a mastrubating teen shouldn't share a room, lol) My daughter is actually pre-pubescent and will be 10 in a couple months, so she definitely needs her own space. I cannot tell you how much it even changed the family dynamics to have each of them in their own domains.

In no way do I buy the crap about not sharing a room past a certain age but even IF that were the case there are ways to manage the situation (I can't even figure out how they'd enforce it). We lived in a 2 bedroom house while my boys were growing up. When they wanted their own rooms we got two cheap shelves from Walmart and put them next to each other (each boy had a shelf and the back of one that they could use as a "wall" to hang posters on or whatever). They shared a closet but each had a small dresser.

One could also expect one's masturbating teen to be more discreet when whacking off. My children weren't the least bit harmed by their spartan upbringing. They did, however, learn that respect & cooperation makes everyone's life more pleasant. Size of one's environment has little to do with a child's stability. I had a mostly upper middle class upbringing and my life was chaos from sun up to sunset. Parents, not house size sets the tone of a family's life.

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They sent me a letter about my re-certification appointment coming up, and buried in the 4th paragraph was a comment that said since my teen had moved out, i was lowered to a 2 bedroom voucher status...NOWHERE on any of my paperwork did I see the $1300 reduced to $1050...only that line, and the generic newsletter they sent us in July of 2010 stating that they were changing the general rules due to budget cute...all BURIED info.
I read it, but in July of 2010, it didn't apply to me, and it went past my eyeballs and out my brain...

So you get a letter that says you were being downsized to a smaller home and didn't once think to call (or ask at the re-certification appointment) and ask if that meant that there would be a change in your housing allowance? YOU'RE responsible for making sure your family's needs are met NOT the government. Adults have to deal with those kinds of issues: rent goes up, job changes, car needs repairs, new landlord has new requirements, deposits from one place to the other are different, etc.

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So here i get my current rent breakdown, still NOWHERE does it list my actual VOUCHER amount... Just $1300 rent, what they pay and what I pay... no explanation of how it is broken down, because they do tricky averaging and plus minus percentages on their worksheet which i never get to see...

Again, you didn't think to call? We have insurance that pays our house payment if he loses a job because of this kind of situation. Still, when my husband's company closed and he was out of work , it didn't magically kick in, we had to get the paperwork together and coordinate between insurance and mortgage company & be responsible for making up any difference between the 2 amounts. I kind of expect to have to be responsible for these kinds of things.

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my rent wen up $500 ...more than I get in welfare for the entire month! why? because I am living beyond my means?
I was IN the Office, for my appointment with the Supervisor for an hour in july...signing my life away again & again, and she NEVER said to me,
"you know, you are only getting a voucher for a 2 bedroom now.."

I'm confused. You already got a letter saying you were being downsized but because the supervisor didn't mention it you thought it didn't really happen? How would she know you hadn't already called into the office and asked? How could you assume it was her responsibility to tell you? Good Lord, you're a parent, you owe it to your children to keep their lives as stable as possible.

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So now I have to hustle an extra few hundred a month to keep my house, or move?... where? ....uproot my kids AGAIN...? and where am I going to FIND that extra income when there are NO ****ing JOBS and I am lucky to work even 10 hours a week for a non-profit? and if that extra job/income causes me to pay for after school care, it is NOT extra money because daycare sucks up the wages!

Yeah, like other families NOT on public assistance don't have to worry about the same things or make the same choices every day. Poor baby!

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I have been struggling my ENTIRE adult life to make something better out of NOTHING. and i feel this huge hand on my head holding me down. I even took advantage of welfare to work and drove 150 miles for 6 months to get a certification in HR management in 2008/09...but I can't break into the field because it isn't a BA, so it did me NO good

I am just. so. done.
I don't want this life anymore, but i don't know how to break free... my heart hurts, i am having trouble breathing, my stress level is off the charts... I want to scream and break shit. I am screwn.

Golly, how about starting at an entry level job: file clerk, receptionist, general office clerk and working your way up? Imagine if you'd done that 4 or 5 years ago how far you'd be now! Nice to see all the taxpayer funds you've received have been put to such good use.

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2011, 09:02:31 PM »
How can people claiming to be so smart, so super educated, be so damn poor ?

It's a claim repeated often at the DUmp.

I think they're either lazy or crazy.  Probably both. 

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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2011, 09:13:42 PM »
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72. Lol, my folks are so old-school...depression-era folks
   
My dad is 78, mom is 74...He sits in front of Faux all day and is very limited in his views (and for so many years growing up he was a Dem, too.) Mom is more liberal. But I think it is a condition of their generation to be ruled by fear and anxiety.
No, they don't live there, it's never been more than a wekend thing when was a kid. Now the property is all but abandoned...with a 3 bd house too..nobody has even BEEN up there for a few years...they check on it every five years or so, just to make sure the road hasn;t washed out or the house fallen apart or the property hasn;t been taken over by the pot growers. (hehe)

But the water supply is not reliable and a MODERN well needs to be surveyed and dug... the road really does need some real grading with a dozer and maybe a layer of good gravel (or that new eco-asphalt that filters the water through to avoid erosion) to keep it stable...and I would love to retrofit the house for solar, etc...

*sigh* ...I swear, it really sux knowing it is there and I can't access it. I have been telling my whole family that I am going to LIVE there and FARM one day since I was a teen... they all think I am nuts. They Like infrastructure. wierdos.

Healdsbrg, eh? do you know Armstrong Redwoods outside of Guerneville? ya, nice area...remote and good growing season and climate...



Ahh, now I get the picture.
We've been supporting this unproductive, never go anywhere leach for so long because she has no incentive at all to do better---her plan is to take over her parents land once they croak. What a bitch. Sorry, but what an absolute bitch. I hope her parents have a will leaving all that beautiful country to someone deserving. And you know what, they probably know about your little pot habit and it's why they don't want your sorry ne'er do well ass living up on their property. :hammer:

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Re: Is it really MY fault?
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2011, 09:36:27 PM »
How can people claiming to be so smart, so super educated, be so damn poor ?

It's a claim repeated often at the DUmp.

I think they're either lazy or crazy.  Probably both. 

And lying, they always lie.