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Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jul-31-11 02:30 PM
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$230,000 For a Guard Dog: Why the Wealthy Are Afraid Of Violence From Below!
   
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 02:31 PM by Omaha Steve

http://www.alternet.org/economy/151837/$230,000_for_a_g...

spare cash not just into private jets, but into private security. Think there's a connection?

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“Violence in the streets, aimed at the wealthy. That’s what I worry about.”

That was what an unidentified billionaire told Robert Frank of the Wall Street Journal a while back. Rich people are scared of global unrest, Frank reported, citing a survey by Insite Security and IBOPE Zogby International of people with liquid assets of $1 million or more (translation: folks who have or can get their hands on $1 million in cash fairly easily) that says 94 percent of the wealthy are concerned about “global unrest” around the world.

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Of course, Insite has an interest in getting the paranoid rich to beef up their security. Still, the numbers are backed up by other trends seen throughout the world of wealth today: the rich keeping a lower profile, hiring $230,000 guard dogs, and arming their yachts, planes and cars with military-style security features.

John Johnson, the owner of the $230,000 dog featured in the New York Times, is a former debt collector. (You can't make this stuff up.) He sold his debt collection company three years ago, but still has not just one, but six highly—and expensively—trained “executive protection dogs.” Harrison K-9 services, the trainers behind Johnson's pricey protection dogs, used to train dogs for elite military units like the Navy Seal team that raided Osama bin Laden's compound. The article doesn't say exactly how many dogs Harrison K-9 has provided for the world's rich and famous, but it does feature a quote from their head trainer saying she's trained “a thousand” dogs.

In addition to security systems, dogs and armed yachts, the security-conscious oligarch can hire a private spy company—Jellyfish, a spinoff of the notorious private security company Blackwater. Or what about their own personal drone? “Smaller, private versions of the infamous Predator” may be coming to well-heeled private citizens near you, according to the UK's Daily Mail. So far the private drones appear to only be for spying, but former Navy fighter pilot Missy Cummings told the Daily Mail, “It doesn't take a rocket scientist from MIT to tell you if we can do it for a soldier in the field, we can do it for anybody.”

So why are the rich getting paranoid? After all, here in the U.S. it looks like they don't even have to worry about their taxes returning to Clinton-era levels, let alone cope with a truly significant change to their lifestyles. Still, as the rich get richer, it seems, they get more and more worried about the rest of us coming for their wealth—and they're out to protect it by any means necessary.

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I can't figure out why they would need guard dogs, it's not like a bunch of freeloaders are threatening violence or anything.

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1. Eat the Rich.

Ohh that's why they need them never mind.

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2. They're not paranoid. They know they deserve to be hated.
   
They don't know why they're not dead already.

They haven't figured out that the food stamps they are trying to eliminate are keeping them alive.

So basically you are saying that either we pay off the poor or, there will be violence.
Sounds like extortion to me.

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12. So their greed has created their own gilded prison. Gulag Archipelago.

No, they are protecting themselves from a bunch of moonbats who think they are owed for the simple fact that they exist.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 02:47:04 PM »
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4. A $230 K guard dog can be neutralized by a few strips of bacon.
   
I guess these assholes never saw "The Return of the Jedi", where primitive Ewoks tripped up all those fancy Empire fighting machines with rocks and ropes and wooden spears. If they think all these fancy toys are going to keep them safe, they're going to be in for a big surprise.
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When GoCubsGo is knocked to the ground and feels the canines sink into his throat he will maybe figure out that the force is not with him.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 02:55:28 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 31, 2011, 02:17:25 PM
So basically you are saying that either we pay off the poor or, there will be violence.

Well, I'm all for the DU re-enactment of the Nike Riots.  DUers starring as the rioters, of course.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 02:57:28 PM »
Not a bad deal when you think about it. True, the initial outlay is huge. But then you have several years worth 24/7 home security with the only pay being a bowl or two of Alpo a day.  :-)

Plus, the sight of a Rottweiler with a hippy leg in its jaws is worthy to be captured in needlepoint art and hung over the fireplace.

Good doggy.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 03:15:24 PM »
Quote from: dandi on July 31, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
Not a bad deal when you think about it. True, the initial outlay is huge. But then you have several years worth 24/7 home security with the only pay being a bowl or two of Alpo a day.  :-)

Plus, the sight of a Rottweiler with a hippy leg in its jaws is worthy to be captured in needlepoint art and hung over the fireplace.

Good doggy.

Ahh, reminds of when the interstate hiway opened near our farm when I was 13. We had a german shepherd trained as a cow dog and used also to wake the dead when some one was too stupid to honk the horn before they got out of their vehicle.

Long story short, one night there was a racket in the back yard and then a car peeling away, spraying gravel all over the place. Next morning I went out to unchain the dog from the gas tank rack to bring up the cows and noticed the back half of a pair of jeans with the area of the buttocks ripped to shreds and bloody under the dog's front paws. Dog's name was Buster, but after the brave, bold defense of the gas tank we called him Killer.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 03:27:01 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on July 31, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
When GoCubsGo is knocked to the ground and feels the canines sink into his throat he will maybe figure out that the force is not with him.

Bacon! LOL!!  Psst, DUmmy, ammonia in a supersoaker works a lot better!
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 03:34:05 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on July 31, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
When GoCubsGo is knocked to the ground and feels the canines sink into his throat he will maybe figure out that the force is not with him.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 03:40:09 PM »
Funny stuff!  :stoner: = paranoia

We're not rich and we don't have a police style professionally trained killer K-9 but we do have a pit bull. She's home schooled. Although she is just as sweet as peaches I have no doubt that anyone entering our home when we're not here is going to have a leg ripped off.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 03:45:31 PM »
I'm not rich, but if the freeloaders ever did get up off of their asses to revolt, I know I'd be on the side of property rights.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 03:48:28 PM »
All these threats against people who have committed no crime...Its no wonder that DU is on the govt watch list.

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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 04:10:17 PM »
It's such a crime to work hard for your own money.  ::)

If I was a multi-millioniare, I'd have a few guard dogs too.  I don't want any of those nasty hippies coming near my gated McMansion.  Eww.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 04:29:26 PM »
Bacon.. Pffft. A properly trained guard dog will not eat anything unless its told to. Distracting/poisoning guard dogs with food are the oldest tricks in the book.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 04:30:04 PM »
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 05:16:27 PM »
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It's such a crime to work hard for your own money.  ::)

If I was a multi-millioniare, I'd have a few guard dogs too.  I don't want any of those nasty hippies coming near my gated McMansion.  Eww.

Hopefully, Jess, you'd have an AR handy, too.
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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 06:49:35 PM »
Quote from: miskie on July 31, 2011, 04:29:26 PM
Bacon.. Pffft. A properly trained guard dog will not eat anything unless its told to. Distracting/poisoning guard dogs with food are the oldest tricks in the book.

That's exactly what I was thinking. With herding dogs, you're basically channeling their natural prey instinct into something productive. There's a lot of distractions in my yard, including fresh chicken (I feed my dogs a raw diet so they smell dinner all day long) and they never get distracted when they're moving the goats. When they're pups, until they're about a year old, they have to be on a leash because they like to play with living things until somebody dies but otherwise they know what they're not supposed to do. Working dogs thrive on having jobs.

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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2011, 06:50:04 PM »
Working dogs are trained to deal with distractions and you deliberately include them in their training. With herding dogs, you're basically channeling their natural prey instinct into something productive. There's a lot of distractions in my yard, including fresh chicken (I feed my dogs a raw diet so they smell dinner all day long) and they never get distracted when they're moving the goats. When they're pups, until they're about a year old, they have to be on a leash because they like to play with living things until somebody dies but otherwise they know what they're not supposed to do. Working dogs thrive on having jobs.

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Re: Primitives discuss guard dogs and the rich.
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2011, 07:33:56 PM »
The primitives never seem to realize when they walk into their own traps.

For instance, a bigot is defined as a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

On the liberal scale, being a bigot is one of the worst things you can be.

However, their hatred and intolerance of those who have more money than the primitives think they should have (class warfare) is the very definition of being a bigot.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 07:57:43 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on July 31, 2011, 06:50:04 PM
Working dogs are trained to deal with distractions and you deliberately include them in their training. With herding dogs, you're basically channeling their natural prey instinct into something productive. There's a lot of distractions in my yard, including fresh chicken (I feed my dogs a raw diet so they smell dinner all day long) and they never get distracted when they're moving the goats. When they're pups, until they're about a year old, they have to be on a leash because they like to play with living things until somebody dies but otherwise they know what they're not supposed to do. Working dogs thrive on having jobs.

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 08:16:49 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 31, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
Dogs are conservatives, cats are liberals.
No you have it wrong.
Dogs are liberals cause they do whatever you tell them to.
Cats are conservative because they are independent thinkers who like to kill RATS. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 08:36:51 PM »
I cannot buy the premise of this article, even if it was quoted from the Holy New York Times.
There's no such thing in the real world as a $230K guard dog.
I heard not long ago of a guy in Ohio who sold ultra-trained guard dogs to royal family members in the Middle East.
His pooches were allegedly going for $15-$20K, with the "allegedly" in underlined bold capital letters.
Except for horses, crazy money animals are nearly always breeding stock.
I don't believe even a democrat federal government would pay $230K for a working dog.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2011, 08:39:29 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on July 31, 2011, 08:16:49 PM
No you have it wrong.
Dogs are liberals cause they do whatever you tell them to.
Cats are conservative because they are independent thinkers who like to kill RATS. 

Dogs do exhibit some liberal tendencies, such as licking their asses in public.
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 08:43:18 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 31, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
Hopefully, Jess, you'd have an AR handy, too.

Maybe some day.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 08:44:01 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on July 31, 2011, 08:16:49 PM
No you have it wrong.
Dogs are liberals cause they do whatever you tell them to.
Cats are conservative because they are independent thinkers who like to kill RATS. 

But cats are really lazy.  They sleep all day.
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 09:08:07 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on July 31, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
But cats are really lazy.  They sleep all day.
That's because cats invested wisely and can enjoy the fruits of their labors.
and besides the night shift pays 10% more. Cats = capitalism. Wise kitties.
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 10:20:09 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on July 31, 2011, 09:08:07 PM
That's because cats invested wisely and can enjoy the fruits of their labors.
and besides the night shift pays 10% more. Cats = capitalism. Wise kitties.

That is true.  My oldest cat acts like a guard in the evening hours.  She starts to growl like a tiger if something is wrong.
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