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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-19-11 05:43 PMOriginal messageCourt reverses Obama threat conviction Source: Associated PressA federal appeals court has overturned the conviction of a San Diego man who authorities say threatened Barack Obama during his 2008 presidential campaign.A divided three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday ruled that Walter Bagdasarian's violent and racist screed against Obama was "repugnant" but not criminal....But the judges said Tuesday that no "reasonable person" could have taken seriously Bagdasarian's posts to a Yahoo Finance message board in October 2008. The court also said his free speech rights protected him from prosecution.Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/0...
beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-19-11 05:56 PMResponse to Original message1. I'm betting the man who went to jail for referring to a "burning bush" will find this ruling interesting.
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jul-19-11 06:05 PMResponse to Original message2. Because IOKIYAR
ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jul-20-11 03:47 PMResponse to Reply #417. Since when is an open threat on the President's life LEGAL?! :wtf:
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jul-20-11 03:49 PMResponse to Reply #421. If that's ok, then so is this: Somebody needs to shoot GWB.
Walk away (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-20-11 03:47 PMResponse to Reply #4 12. Last week a client of mine was shouting for someone to murder the President. He was picking up his dog and he started ranting about how disgusting Obama was. My whole neighborhood must have heard. I was mostly in shock and just talked about it for the first time today. This is a white businessman who is married to a beautiful black woman. He grew up in my liberal home town and he was bursting with hate and rage against our president. I think he must be a teabagger. They are really scary!
In the thread, Walk Away tells the same bouncy tale as in another thread:Well the dude doesn't sound racist with a beautiful black wife. Hmm wonder what his problem is? Such a puzzler.
scribble (118 posts) Wed Jul-20-11 06:17 PMResponse to Reply #27 30. Limbaugh and Beck ... have both ALMOST threatened Obama on the air. Both should have been visited by the Secret Service, but apparently weren't. Limbaugh just barely missed being visited, when he exhorted Republicans to riot in the streets during the Democratic Convention. He didn't define a reason, or name a time and place, and that's why he is still on the air. The Law distinguishes between a "true threat" and hyperbole (see Wikipedia). Limbaugh and Beck almost always make hyperbolic statements; not threats. They would LOVE to be arrested. The way to handle both men, is to have well-known surrogates (friends) speak out against what they said in ways that make them sound foolish. Another way, is to boycott their advertisers -- which is in fact, the main reason Beck is no longer on Fox News. A third way: Challenge the Broadcast License of every radio station that broadcasts either man. The challenges would be free, but it would force all those stations to hire expensive lawyers to defend themselves before the FCC.I have no F*cking idea why so-called progressives here, haven't been doing that since at least 2004. But you haven't. You apparently prefer to just bitch. sc
scribble (118 posts) Wed Jul-20-11 06:01 PMResponse to Original message 28. I am appalled ... with most of the comments in this thread. Don't you know what a threat is? Really. Look up "true threat" on Wikipedia. You can't just **** over someone because they said something you don't like. That's what Michelle Bachmann wants to do. You can't just interpret someone else's offensive speech to be a threat: That's what Dick Cheney did for eight years, and why we STILL have a "War" on terrorism. For your speech to be threatening, you also have to be specific, credible and your target needs to understand that he/she is in imminent danger. To be credible, your plan has to be apparent from your speech and actions, and the context in which the speech is uttered. It can't be a joke or a fantasy or an expression of anger. It especially doesn't help if it's posted one or two times in a message thread full of idiot gold-bug investors. This man wasn't credible or serious. He was delusional. Here is the most basic principle of our Criminal Law System: The punishment must fit the crime.Think about that Principle. Do you REALLY want to start locking up everybody in the country who says something you don't like? Are you willing to let those people lock you up because they don't like what you are saying? I am ashamed of most of you. sc
Not long for this world. At least he'll go out with a full belly.
Surprisingly enough, nobody responded to those posts. So scribble might be safe for a while.
