Shame on you frank...............for missing this from the Sparkly one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3187588Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:18 PM
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Today I spoke with a moron. A citizen of Dumb****istan. The topic was 'socialized medicine'
Advertisements [?]At my gym. The guy on the treadmill next to me. 65 years old .... 70, maybe?
The local nooz had a story on health care. They mentioned veterans. That led to a conversation involving this good citizen of Dumb****istan, another guy, and me. The conversation touched on our lack of national health care. So the moron brings up "socialized medicine".
You know they hate that term, right? "Socialized medicine".
So anyway, I ask him if he thinks vets get good care? He says, "Yeah, they sure do! We give them the ebst care in the world. They deserve it. Whatever they need they get. And I'm glad of it and glad Bush makes sure they get it." Or some such riff ...... doing that proud right wing head shake they all do when they think they scored a point.
"That's pretty much socialized medicine, you know," sez me.
"Yeah," sez he. "And that's why they have all the problems they do."
My treadmill timer went off. Mercifully, that was the end of my conversation with him, cuz I have NO idea how to even address that kind of thinking.
And I realized how true it is: "Dumb****istan ...... not a place, but a state of mind"
No that's not socialized medicine..................and I'm ****ing tired of it being compared to socialized medicine
YOY (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:20 PM
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1. So it's the best but it's socialized so it's not so good?
That made no f***ing sense at all!
Did I understand that correctly?
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:21 PM
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3. "Did I understand that correctly?"
I don't know. Did you?
Cuz I have no ****ing idea either.
So you run to DU to post this for all the primitives to see..............................
Tesla (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:22 PM
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5. They get to have it both ways
the're Republican...
It's written in their by-laws!
Holy hell..................
proud2Blib (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:20 PM
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2. They get the best but it's a problem?
Sorry my brain did a cartwheel or something.
w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:21 PM
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4. that's why it's almost impossible to debate these people
they were born without synapses for their brain cells...
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:38 PM
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18. I think yours is the most plausible explanation
No synapses ....... yup. That could be it.
NCevilDUer (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:41 PM
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20. It's not 'thinking'.
It is instinctual lizard-brain response.
Very common among republicans.
You have gotta be kidding me
zbdent (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:45 PM
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21. Pavlov had smarter dogs ...
at least they equated the bell with something good for them ...
mcctatas (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:23 PM
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8. the cognitive dissonance that must be maintained at all times
for some of these people is an astounding feat of mental gymnastics!
Damn my side is hurting
LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:24 PM
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9. So if the majority of US voters, vote for a John McCain then they deserve...
to live in "Dumb****istan" and quit whining about it! If McCain wins, that would be the most asinine thing that could happen in America.
AnneD (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:30 PM
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12. Thanks for standing up.....
good on ya mate. I have tried time and again to explain this to my Mom. I write it off to encroaching senility....sigh
Must be a self diagnoses of Anne
DS1 (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:31 PM
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13. Jesus. I would have fantasized tripping him up and pushing his face against the track
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:32 PM by DS1
I don't do well with dumb people
Seems you don't do well with reality either
tularetom (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:34 PM
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14. My brother who is far more educated than I
is also a resident of Dumb****istan.
He knows socialized medicine is bad.
He is sure global climate change is a myth.
He knows stupid consumers caused the subprime mortgage crisis by borrowing more than they can pay back.
And he knows all this because he reads it in - the Wall Street Journal.
You are correct - there really is no response.
.........................everything you listed about your brother is the reality of things, not what you find here on Skins Island.'
izquierdista (845 posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:35 PM
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15. One could be tempted
To smack these people over the head with a 2x4 and see if they have any sense when they come to.
But that would be futile, as they have refined that way of non-thinking their entire lives.
yardwork (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:36 PM
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16. I don't know how you lasted as long as you did.
When I think of the hundreds of billions we've wasted in Iraq...
raccoon (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:38 PM
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17. This resident of Dumb****istan benefits from socialized medicine,
AKA "Medicare."
End Of The Road (464 posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:47 PM
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22. Nope, not from Dumb****istan.
A 70-year-old guy in a gym on a treadmill? He's retired, still active, with enough disposable income to pay for a gym. He probably worked damn hard for that retirement, has paid a ton of taxes, and has probably voted in many elections. Yep, he's a Republican, and he has an entirely different political frame of reference from ours. But he could be your father, or your father-in-law, or your grandfather, and goddammit he deserves SOME respect. One of you would have fantasized about tripping him? I'm disgusted.
Chink.....chink.....chink......Good for you EOTR
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. I'm 60
Does that blow your argument?
No................it doesn't
End Of The Road (464 posts) Mon Apr-21-08 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Not at all.
That guy probably went home and told his wife that he spoke with a citizen of Dumb****istan, and moran, at the gym today.
Okay......................whose mole
skypilot (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 02:06 PM
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25. If you hadn't said that he was 65 or 70...
...I would have thought it was the idiot I had a discussion with this weekend.
I'm sitting at the bar and I overhear this guy to my left saying to someone "Ninety percent of Americans have health insurance." I look at the guy to my right (whom I didn't even know) and I say, "Did I hear what I think I just heard?" The guy nods his head and says "Yep". I sat there eavesdropping on the idiots conversation and then he starts talking to a woman sitting next to the "Yep" guy. She was wearing an Obama button. I wasn't exactly eavesdropping anymore at this point because the idiot was having to talk across me to address the woman. I don't even remember now what it was he said that finally set me off but I had to jump in. To make a long story short, he was one of those people who thinks that Bush is doing a good job because the country hasn't been attacked since 9/11. Blah, blah, blah. I almost lost my voice arguing with this guy. Ultimately, he shook my hand and said that we'd have to agree to disagree. He's voting for McCain of course. Idiot.
Why do I never meet these people
Bunch of idjits
