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We need to expand the size of government.
« on: June 23, 2011, 01:46:22 AM »
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We need to expand the size of government.
   
It's clear to me that corporations find it far more profitable to hire workers from depressed economies. This leaves more and more Americans living on the edge of poverty and below. The once strong middle class is shrinking by the day.

I say nationalize the banks, nationalize the oil companies, nationalize the entire healthcare industry, nationalize the Chamber of Commerce, nationalize all the IT industry, nationalize Coca-Cola and Pepsi, and provide this population with some decent jobs at a living wage. That would put an abrupt ending to this age of unbridled greed and monopolistic dominance by big corporations. Big government, not big corporations. I'd nationalize Wall Street and appoint a GS-12 to be the new CEO at Goldman Sachs.

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Little do these people understand that if govt runs all the corporations, all the things they complain about within corporations will still exist only under the banner of govt. I suppose when the CEO is a czar they won't mind all the perks that they get. They already never complain about the perks that govt officials get while they would crucify anyone in the private sector who gets the same perks.

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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 02:51:00 AM »
The DUmmies and the liberals constantly complain about the "vanishing middle class".

I've often wondered if it is the policies that they have enacted since Woodrow Wilson to "punish the rich" are actually destroying the middle class, by preventing them from becoming rich.

But like all DUmmies, they can't see the forest for the trees, but they don't care, they like trees.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 08:13:52 AM »
Just for the hell of it, I did a little comparison.

In 1961, the federal budget was $97.7 Billion, GDP was $530 Billion, meaning federal outlays were 18.4 percent of GDP.

In 2011, the federal budget will be approximately $3.8 TRILLION, GDP will be about $15.1 T, meaning federal outlays are over 25.3 percent of GDP.

NOW, had the size of the federal budget increased at the same rate as the CPI over that 50 year period, the federal budget today would be:

$722 Billion, or less than 1/5th the size it is today.

So please, DUmb****s, tell me expansion of government is a good thing.  Return on investment and all that.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 08:20:24 AM »
Oh Sparky, that's way too much math for them.  

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2. Break up the large corporations
 Make it so that companies are restricted to operating in their home state, possibly some border states (particularly if you're located in a small state). 

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These idiots pronouncing things from on high like tinpot dictators are starting to get to me.  We have the communists trying to wave magic wands, transforming the nation into a communist hellhole, just because they say "we need to sieze the mean of production."  Who the hell do they think they are? 
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 08:24:14 AM »
Do I want communism?  No primitive, now go away.

I fail to see the point of primitives discussing solutions which are virtually improbable.

HeyJack Sprat primitive, if you've got that much time on your hands to come up with a bunch of junk that's just not going to happen, maybe you need to be out doing some of that social work you libs claim you do rather than sitting around dreaming of how the USA can become the improved version of the USSR.

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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 08:36:50 AM »
That's a big ole bucket of stupid right there.  :thatsright:
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 09:11:42 AM »
After all, look how well it worked in Greece!
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 09:59:49 AM »
This is one of their idiotic propositions that make me want to put my mole in jeopardy and ask the simple question of, How do we pay for the manpower?

Government workers do not produce anything. Raising taxes on the upper 5% and Corporations won't cover it.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 10:09:35 AM »
WHEREAS government shall control all the corporations then government controls all the employment opportunities.

WHEREAS if the government controls all the employment opportunities it shall then control all wages.

BE IT RESOLVED that anybody who votes in favor of a democrat be paid half the prevailing wages of those who do not.

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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 10:29:46 AM »
What's the deal with this "vanishing middle class"?
I can go to a restaurant where entrees average around $30, on a weeknight, and have to wait for a table.
So, DUmbasses, the middle class isn't vanishing. They're all at Sperry's.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 04:28:04 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 23, 2011, 08:13:52 AM
Just for the hell of it, I did a little comparison.

In 1961, the federal budget was $97.7 Billion, GDP was $530 Billion, meaning federal outlays were 18.4 percent of GDP.

In 2011, the federal budget will be approximately $3.8 TRILLION, GDP will be about $15.1 T, meaning federal outlays are over 25.3 percent of GDP.

NOW, had the size of the federal budget increased at the same rate as the CPI over that 50 year period, the federal budget today would be:

$722 Billion, or less than 1/5th the size it is today.

So please, DUmb****s, tell me expansion of government is a good thing.  Return on investment and all that.

Do those numbers from the 60s include inflation as to better compare them? Even if not the one from the 60's would be less I'm just wondering.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 06:51:13 PM »
Comp--like I said, the increase was tied to the CPI--Consumer Price Index, aka inflation.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 07:14:13 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 23, 2011, 06:51:13 PM
Comp--like I said, the increase was tied to the CPI--Consumer Price Index, aka inflation.

Nevermind, my mistake.
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Re: We need to expand the size of government.
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 08:18:43 PM »
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-22-11 11:11 PM
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We need to expand the size of government. It's clear to me that corporations find it far more profitable to hire workers from depressed economies. This leaves more and more Americans living on the edge of poverty and below. The once strong middle class is shrinking by the day.
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