Time to Boycott Home Depot?

[Doktor Howl]

You can't open refineries until the ******* gummint gets out of the way. Too many examples of tons of red tape/permits that are needed for the oil companies to set up the required whorehouses and porta-potties in Alaska.

Eupher, I work in the industry.  I gotta ask you, who wins in court, the hippies or Big Oil?  Who owns more congressmen?

And who do you think funds those hippies?

We do.

Think about it.  The price of gas goes up, and people want more supply.  We can either a) Open another refinery, with all the maintenance, payroll, and other fixed costs associated with it, or b) Jack up the price of gas and make the same money as if we'd opened the refinery.

Which do you think we do?  Yep.  We fund hippies and NIMBY groups, and then throw the case, moaning that we wanted to open that refinery, but the crazy hippies wouldn't let us.

[Janice]

10.  Finding new and interesting ways to get our enemies to fight each other.

Thats easy. Export liberalism to them.

Or better yet, just ship all of our extreme leftists to them. I'll pitch in for the one way tickets.

After all, they should feel right at home then.

[CG6468]

 

[Doktor Howl]

Sorry about that.  Can we get a mod to split it?

[CG6468]

Sorry about that.  Can we get a mod to split it?

Nah. Not worth it. Just start a new thread. (I might even join in!)

[Eupher]

Eupher, I work in the industry.  I gotta ask you, who wins in court, the hippies or Big Oil?  Who owns more congressmen?

And who do you think funds those hippies?

We do.

Think about it.  The price of gas goes up, and people want more supply.  We can either a) Open another refinery, with all the maintenance, payroll, and other fixed costs associated with it, or b) Jack up the price of gas and make the same money as if we'd opened the refinery.

Which do you think we do?  Yep.  We fund hippies and NIMBY groups, and then throw the case, moaning that we wanted to open that refinery, but the crazy hippies wouldn't let us.

Well, I don't work in the industry so I don't have the background.

All I know is what I read -- and what I read doesn't say a whole lot about court cases (except for the fact that Obama's gang of thugs was found in contempt recently). But I did read a ton of stuff about how the EPA and the rest of the alphabet administration soup has gone apeshit in adopting regulation after regulation, rule after rule, essentially governing through administrative fiat.

I'm quite sure the fed dockets are chockful of cases in which the hippies have gone to court and won, and the poor bastard Big Oil CEOs are lined up testifying in Congress about their massive profits they've managed to steal from the people ( ), but as I'm not in the industry, I don't have the background.

Oops. I'm repeating myself.  

[Doktor Howl]

Well, I don't work in the industry so I don't have the background.

All I know is what I read -- and what I read doesn't say a whole lot about court cases (except for the fact that Obama's gang of thugs was found in contempt recently). But I did read a ton of stuff about how the EPA and the rest of the alphabet administration soup has gone apeshit in adopting regulation after regulation, rule after rule, essentially governing through administrative fiat.

I'm quite sure the fed dockets are chockful of cases in which the hippies have gone to court and won, and the poor bastard Big Oil CEOs are lined up testifying in Congress about their massive profits they've managed to steal from the people ( ), but as I'm not in the industry, I don't have the background.

Oops. I'm repeating myself.  

Yeah, we do that shit, too.  We are in fact the biggest lobbyists for regulation.  Why?  Insane EPA restrictions mean 2 things:

1.  We "can't" open refineries (if we decided we wanted to, we would, and you can take that to the bank), and

2.  If you aren't already in the biz, you ain't getting into the biz.  The pollution control technology alone is far too expensive for start-ups.

For all intents and purposes, we ARE the EPA.

[Eupher]

Yeah, we do that shit, too.  We are in fact the biggest lobbyists for regulation.  Why?  Insane EPA restrictions mean 2 things:

1.  We "can't" open refineries (if we decided we wanted to, we would, and you can take that to the bank), and

2.  If you aren't already in the biz, you ain't getting into the biz.  The pollution control technology alone is far too expensive for start-ups.

For all intents and purposes, we ARE the EPA.

Interesting stuff.

Basically confirms what I've known to be true for many years. Organizations serve themselves first. **** everybody else.

[Doktor Howl]

Interesting stuff.

Basically confirms what I've known to be true for many years. Organizations serve themselves first. **** everybody else.

Sure.  That's the beauty of the free market.  Get big enough, you get to write the rules. 

We're not the only industry that does it, of course.  Big Pharma owns whatever we don't.  Their latest move has been a drive to require drug tests of UI/welfare recipients.  Those drug tests aren't cheap...Bayer and Eli Lilly stand to make a killing on that.  The kit costs a whopping $2.25 a pop, but the actual testing of the sample gets nice and pricey.  And guess who pays for all of this?