I used company resourses to bad mouth company and they fired me- Can I sue?

[Tucker]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1176298

msider (29 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 02:10 AM
Original message
REpost...Just got fired from Wells Fargo. RE: the following email   Updated at 6:14 PM
   
sans "suspect" linkage

So...here's what I wrote. It's missing a handy chart where it depicts the average Wells employee's hourly salary vs. the CEO's salary, but you get the gist.

Full disclosure, I had been working here for a few months and this was to be my last week. I wouldn't recommend anyone else do this, but I gotta admit, it felt damn good and maybe someone will step up and do something about it.

Good Morning All,

Last week a friend of mine was fired for sending an inappropriate email to pretty much the whole building. Despite the fact that it was harmless, accidental, and largely ignored message, she will now join the ranks of the unemployed. If she is your average unemployed Oregonian she will remain unemployed for at least 18 months and when/if she gets rehired somewhere it will be for less money than she was making here.

Now my friend was definitely in the wrong, and I’m not writing this email to argue her situation. However, in an attempt to hold our company to a similar standard consider the following:

We work for one of the largest financial institutions in the world, we are essential to its operations, yet economic security is completely at the mercy of its senior executives. They are squeezing our salaries, reducing our benefits, and lobbying our politicians to make it harder for us to improve our financial positions despite our contributions to Wells Fargo’s successes. It means more profits for them, but less choice, less freedom and more importantly, less money for us.

In 2010, our CEO, John G. Stumpf received $18,973,722 in total compensation. By comparison, the median worker made $33,190 in 2010. John G. Stumpf made 571 times the median worker's pay.



Last year Wells Fargo made $45,415 of pure profit for every employee?
Each and every employee could’ve gotten a $10,000 bonus last year and Wells Fargo still would’ve made almost $10 billion.
How much was your last raise?

We work for one of the most profitable Corporations in the world, why aren’t we some of the best paid workers? Why is it acceptable to have mandatory overtime for months at a stretch? Why must our co-workers who are sick rush back to work before they are healthy? Why can’t our new mothers spend more time with their children? And why are our senior executives making 571 times more than us?

We cannot continue to let ourselves be taken advantage of. We have a choice. We can demand more. Individually we are weak, but together we are strong. It’s only right that we are entitled to a bigger piece of the $45,415 in profit that each of us helped make last year.

We work hard, we deserve more, we need to unionize and demand it.
Contact your local unions. Ask how you can form one. Here are some helpful links.

www.seiu.org
http://www.seiu.org/a/profilewells.php
http://www.laborunionresources.org/HOWT ... UNION.html
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2009 / ... m-a-union/
http://www.aflcio.org/corporatewatch

I was escorted out of the building within 5 minutes.

What a DUmbass.

grasswire (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 02:18 AM
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2. I suggest you contact WW
   
....they might be interested in the story.

What's WW? Willy Wonka?

ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 02:24 AM
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3. May I Also Suggest...............
   
.............that you contact an employment law attorney in your area. There's a pretty decent chance that you live in an "employment at will" State (most of them are these days), but you might be able to sue Wells Fargo for wrongful discharge. An employment law attorney would be able to answer those questions for you. I'm not licensed in the State of Oregon, and I do little to no employment law, so I can't be of much help to you, other than to tell you that what happened doesn't smell right to me. It might be worth your time to seek out some answers from someone who would know more about this. Many attorneys are willing to sit down with you on an initial consultation for free. So call around and see if you can locate one. If you need help, try calling your local Bar Association.

If I were you, I would definitely look into this.

blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 11:35 AM
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21. Keep in mind that this administrations Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis, is VERY labor and union
   
friendly.

Courage--I hope you can pursue this!

Let me type slowly so you can understand. The DUmmy used his work computer to send a personal email.

PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 11:19 AM
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15. Proud of you!
   
:applause:

Might as well go down shooting!!!!

Call the feds. We have a threat.

msider (29 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 12:06 PM
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28. well   Updated at 6:14 PM
   
#1 I wasn't a loan officer
#2 As a youngish, single, childless, able-bodied individual, I am in a good position to "throw a job away" in exchange for not supporting an unjust status quo and attempting to start a movement towards organizing a downtrodden labor force. If those who can afford to lead don't lead now, where are we going to be in 10 years?

Sheesh! I'll take one for the team.

[marv]

ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 02:24 AM
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3. May I Also Suggest...............
   
.............that you contact an employment law attorney in your area. There's a pretty decent chance that you live in an "employment at will" State (most of them are these days), but you might be able to sue Wells Fargo for wrongful discharge. An employment law attorney would be able to answer those questions for you. I'm not licensed in the State of Oregon, and I do little to no employment law, so I can't be of much help to you, other than to tell you that what happened doesn't smell right to me. It might be worth your time to seek out some answers from someone who would know more about this. Many attorneys are willing to sit down with you on an initial consultation for free. So call around and see if you can locate one. If you need help, try calling your local Bar Association.

If I were you, I would definitely look into this.

...hummm, another lib tort lia...er...lawyer advertising for leads.

[Ralph Wiggum]

We don't call them DUmmies for nothing.

[FiddyBeowulf]

 

msider (29 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 12:06 PM
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28. well   Updated at 6:14 PM
   
#1 I wasn't a loan officer
#2 As a youngish, single, childless, able-bodied individual, I am in a good position to "throw a job away" in exchange for not supporting an unjust status quo and attempting to start a movement towards organizing a downtrodden labor force. If those who can afford to lead don't lead now, where are we going to be in 10 years?

DU street cred thread.

[debk]

He was quitting? said it was his last week, after working there a few months...

So he gets fired and escorted out.

Does that mean he gets to collect unemployment?

[JohnnyReb]

I see msider came to work high again....thought he was still home in mom's basement and on her computer.

[Ralph Wiggum]

DU street cred thread.

I was thinking the same thing.  Too much of a low post count to just show up at DU and post this crap.

[DumbAss Tanker]

He was quitting? said it was his last week, after working there a few months...

I'm sure that post on DU would come back to haunt him if he did try to take action on it, his email is quoted so verbatim there would be no problem tying it back him.  Not much in damages if your employment was cut short only a week. 

[Mike220]

Actions have consequences.

[Tucker]

Actions have consequences.

And actions have reactions.

PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu May-26-11 11:19 AM
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15. Proud of you!
   
:applause:

Might as well go down shooting!!!!

[Ralph Wiggum]

What's WW? Willy Wonka?

Willamette Week.  Yeah, I'm sure an investigative reporter will want to check this story out.

[GOBUCKS]

Willamette Week.  Yeah, I'm sure an investigative reporter will want to check this story out.

Workers World - a commie paper you sometimes see panhandlers selling?

And if it's Willamette Week, what's up with DUmmy grasswire again making an Oregon reference? Evicted from the former friend's bonus room up there in Wisoncons, did she give up on the pie shop dream and Greyhound her way cross country from Wisconsin to Oregon? And if so, why?

I have to say I feel a little slighted, and, yes, offended, if DUmmy grasswire made such a monumental decision, and then carried it out, without keeping us advised. Shame on her. After all the support we've given her, we should expect better from her.

DUmmy grasswire is beginning to appear as inconsiderate and ungrateful as poor, stupid Beth.

[zeitgeist]

He was quitting? said it was his last week, after working there a few months...

So he gets fired and escorted out.

Does that mean he gets to collect unemployment?

In the words of a favorite tune from Song of the South Zippity DoDa.

Da blue bird of happiness aint the bird this jabronie will be getting from HR folk either.  They have a way of sniffing this stuff out.  Jungle drums or something.

There are some mean spirited SOBS in this world. 

[Karin]

GOBUCKS, I know. I gave her a whole laundry list of things she would have to address, such as the state health dept., insurances, and other regulations.  Sheesh.  

BTW, you stole my post.  I was going to say Workers of the World.  

My first job out of college was at a papermill in Maine; I was shocked to see the guys sitting around in air conditioned shacks reading the Daily Worker.  I was so naive, it's pathetic.  

[DumbAss Tanker]

GOBUCKS, I know. I gave her a whole laundry list of things she would have to address, such as the state health dept., insurances, and other regulations.  Sheesh.  

BTW, you stole my post.  I was going to say Workers of the World.  

My first job out of college was at a papermill in Maine; I was shocked to see the guys sitting around in air conditioned shacks reading the Daily Worker.  I was so naive, it's pathetic.  

Looks like Sparky just found someone to confirm everything he's ever said about Maine!

 

[zeitgeist]

GOBUCKS, I know. I gave her a whole laundry list of things she would have to address, such as the state health dept., insurances, and other regulations.  Sheesh.  

BTW, you stole my post.  I was going to say Workers of the World.  

My first job out of college was at a papermill in Maine; I was shocked to see the guys sitting around in air conditioned shacks reading the Daily Worker.  I was so naive, it's pathetic.  

For reasons I will not go in to I camped near a paper mill in Millinocket once.  To those seeking to get away from it all where houses are almost free, Millinocket is the place.  On the other hand, it does have a few how shall we put this, drawbacks??   <que banjos>    But it does have a paper company. 
And I find myself compelled to ask what was so shocking, the subject matter, or, the fact that they could actually read??

[GOBUCKS]

For reasons I will not go in to I camped near a paper mill in Millinocket once. 

The only paper mill I'm familiar with, near Chillicothe, Ohio, runs a close race with the Kanawha Valley near Charleston, and a tannery I once visited, as the worst industrial odor available. But more power to them. For us it's a minor irritant. To the locals, it's the smell of money.

[zeitgeist]

The only paper mill I'm familiar with, near Chillicothe, Ohio, runs a close race with the Kanawha Valley near Charleston, and a tannery I once visited, as the worst industrial odor available. But more power to them. For us it's a minor irritant. To the locals, it's the smell of money.

I am going to say the tannery I worked near had the paper mill hands down in the stench department.  But have you ever been to a rendering plant?  When I was a kid I use to go with my grandfather to take the wool.  That was the worst smell I have ever encountered.  We are talking knock the buzzards off the shit truck strong stench. It beat out the stench of a hen house in the heat of summer which on entry can make you gasp and tear up all at once.  Simple horse manure or cow is nothing by comparison.

[Karin]

Zeitgeist, I know the Millinocket Mill well.  Used to work for a company that owned it.  What a small world!

I have been fortunate to only work in groundwood mills, rather than chemical pulping mills, which I would only have to visit.  Groundwood is just a mechanical process, so the only smell is that of a fresh Christmas tree.  Lovely. 

I was shocked by the guys reading the Daily Worker because it is a Communist publication, right here on our soil.  I had a sheltered upbringing by conservative parents.  I didn't think we had a lot of Commies around, not after fighting actual wars battling it.  Who knew?  Didn't even know what the DW was, had to pick it up and read it.  Shocked, shocked. 

[thelaughingman]

I was escorted out of the building within 5 minutes.

Schadenfreude.  It's a wonderful feeling.

[zeitgeist]

Zeitgeist, I know the Millinocket Mill well.  Used to work for a company that owned it.  What a small world!

I have been fortunate to only work in groundwood mills, rather than chemical pulping mills, which I would only have to visit.  Groundwood is just a mechanical process, so the only smell is that of a fresh Christmas tree.  Lovely. 

I was shocked by the guys reading the Daily Worker because it is a Communist publication, right here on our soil.  I had a sheltered upbringing by conservative parents.  I didn't think we had a lot of Commies around, not after fighting actual wars battling it.  Who knew?  Didn't even know what the DW was, had to pick it up and read it.  Shocked, shocked. 

It drove a brand new Cruiser through Baxter on that trip.  Took forever to get all the dust out.  Three hours of one land dirt road but gorgeous and well worth it. 

[thundley4]

Schadenfreude.  It's a wonderful feeling.

Speaking of Schade, where is she?

[Bondai]

Hey DUmmie! If it helps any my company just purged about a dozen people for forwarding an email about Obama. The computer and it's email server belong to the company....learn it, live it, remember it.....

[zeitgeist]

Hey DUmmie! If it helps any my company just purged about a dozen people for forwarding an email about Obama. The computer and it's email server belong to the company....learn it, live it, remember it.....

Part of the new Obama rapid response initiative recently announced? 

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/05/23/white-house-adds-new-position-internet-tough-guy-to-deal-with-unfavorable-online-media/

 The White House has named Jesse Lee to a new position within its communications department titled Director of Progressive Media & Online Response. According to The Huffington Post, Lee will essentially be responsible for building up Obama’s online presence as he prepares for his reelection bid, and squashing any negative stories.

…If you’re going to post something online about Obama that isn’t true, Lee is going to be the one to handle you. Considering that Lee’s first tweet about his new position included a picture of The Terminator, we suggest you watch what you say OR BE DESTROYED.

There are those at the dump who could find themselves a target of Mr. Lee.  Chilling thought isn't it dummies. 

[Chris_]

Part of the new Obama rapid response initiative recently announced? 

There are those at the dump who could find themselves a target of Mr. Lee.  Chilling thought isn't it dummies. 

After years of DUmmies claiming the GOP pays people to post on websites, the Democrat in the White House actually hires someone who does just that.

Truth is stranger than fiction.  Even swamp-fever DUmmy fiction.