primitives discuss dislike of unions

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1167557

Oh my.

Disclosure: this is a PoP-free campfire; only the unterprimitiven are acknowledged here.

oriiginal comment not brought over, because it was made by one of the tiresome tedious old PoP, the PoP of course now being on franksolich's "iggy" list

HillbillyBob  (1000+ posts)        Tue May-24-11 08:53 PM
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1. Propaganda and they want slaves. Gotta be 'better' than someone anyone to feed the little id.

Drale  (1000+ posts)         Tue May-24-11 08:54 PM
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2. The M$M has convinced them that the Unions are only causing problems because apparently Unions protect bad workers and such bullshit like that.

RKP5637  (1000+ posts)       Tue May-24-11 08:54 PM
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3. Because they've been brainwashed over the years to believe unions are bad. And anymore the R's are trying to brainwash the masses that anything that helps them maintain our standard of living is bad too.

rucky  (1000+ posts)        Tue May-24-11 08:57 PM
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4. They think unions drove GM to Mexico and all the other companies to China and take all our tax money for their cushy public servant jobs

Plus, when resources are scarce (jobs) - it's easier to hate on the people you're competing with than it is the people you're sending your resume to.

southernyankeebelle  (1000+ posts)      Tue May-24-11 08:59 PM
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5. Because the people who have nothing wish they could get what union workers have.

baldguy  (1000+ posts)      Tue May-24-11 09:00 PM
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6. They've been conned into believing that *someday* they might be rich too.

Of course it's a lie.

Dyedinthewoolliberal  (1000+ posts)        Tue May-24-11 09:03 PM
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7. Unions have done a terrible PR job on their own behalf. Stop 10 people on the street and ask their opinion of unions. I'm willing to bet more than half would describe unions are 'run by thugs', 'corrupt' 'making illegal campaign contributions' and so on. If I were the Unions I'd pool money together to buy air time and show movies like "Matewan". Then I'd have an on going campaign in the papers and on the "Net about the benefits of being in a union.

What people, most anyhow, don't realize is that people died for the right to organize.

It's all about power and the other side ain't giving any up voluntarily...............

October  (1000+ posts)        Tue May-24-11 09:31 PM
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17. Yes, but unions are typically not as well financed as their ANTI-UNION corporation machines

It's difficult to have good PR/marketing when the corporation spends enormous sums touting their "we're all a family" BS. They use all the underhanded tactics they accuse union leaders of using, too.

It's so sad that many workers don't feel they deserve to have a union and many feel sorry for the company owner(s) -- as though a union on the property somehow hurts their feelings. I've seen this again and again.

[BattleHymn]

I'm willing to bet more than half would describe unions are 'run by thugs', 'corrupt' 'making illegal campaign contributions' and so on.

Your rebuttal being what?  Facts are facts. 

[GOBUCKS]

Most people would prefer to be recognized and rewarded for doing a good job, not castigated or threatened by their fellow employees.
Being a good union man means never giving even a fraction of an ounce more effort than required by the letter of the contract.

Also, most people don't want their employer to go out of business.

[BattleHymn]

Most people would prefer to be recognized and rewarded for doing a good job, not castigated or threatened by their fellow employees.
Being a good union man means never giving even a fraction of an ounce more effort than required by the letter of the contract.

Also, most people don't want their employer to go out of business.

Amen to that.  The corporation I work for has an arm that actually makes money teaching employees of other companies how to act like owners, and understand the language of business.  All arms of the corporation take training to learn the language, to the best of our abilities, right down to the guy who cleans the restrooms.     

[Evil_Conservative]

southernyankeebelle  (1000+ posts)      Tue May-24-11 08:59 PM
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5. Because the people who have nothing wish they could get what union workers have.

Like what?  Examples, please.

And what is "nothing".  Please define nothing.  Thanks. 

[Freeper]

alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue May-24-11 09:09 PM
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8. I have actually had this conversation with some anti-union
   
people. And I basically hear the same two things repeatedly:

1) all consumer goods and services would be cheaper if not for union wages.

2) they resent the fact that union workers are paid better, have better benefits, collective bargaining, etc. So - here's the part I don't get AT ALL - instead of trying to get themselves unionized and/or fight for the same things, they'd rather get rid of unions so that no one is doing better than they are.

Yeah I can't wait to sign up for an organization that will take money from me (then basically do nothing for me at all) then hand it to the democrat party.

[JohnnyReb]

Isn't the first requirement of belonging to a union, "have a job"?

[ScubaGuy]

Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue May-24-11 10:59 PM
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18. Hey frank . . . . . .
   
. . . . . anthro this:

And a shout out to Frank from cat box boy.

Isn't that sweet?  Looks like stinkey has a thing for Frank.

[Karin]

Stinky's shoutout always appear incongruous.  People are discussing unions, etc. and suddenly catbox boy lashes out to another website.  It's like Tourette's or something. 

Another reason for union hatred comes from my husband, who used to be in one in the paper industry.  The guys with seniority sit around on their asses all day long.  The rest of the guys have to do their own job and someone else's.  Is that FAIR, DUmmies?

[franksolich]

And a shout out to Frank from cat box boy.

Isn't that sweet?  Looks like stinkey has a thing for Frank.

Well, right now, I'm working on "Mrs. Alfred Packer does Memorial Day," and the saga of the Packer clan is always of course dedicated to Mrs. Alfred Packer's good and dear friend, the sparkling husband primitive.

This has a new twist, however.

No explosive ending.

Honest.

Trust me.

Really.

edited to add: I'm writing it right now, and I'm writing it only because the sparkling husband primitive knows I'm snubbing him, but still has the bad manners, the discourtesy, to call me out.

franksolich thinks snubbing should be a two-way street.

Anyway, if the sparkling husband primitive hadn't called me out, no one would ever know what Mrs. Alfred Packer is doing Memorial Day.  But because the sparkling husband primitive won't shun franksolich, as franksolich has the kindness to do him, I guess we will, and it'll be the sparkling husband primitive's own fault.

Damn.  Don't any of the primitives ever read Dale Carnegie, about how to win friends and influence people?

[GOBUCKS]

Damn.  Don't any of the primitives ever read Dale Carnegie, about how to win friends and influence people?

Coach, you gotta give credit where it's due. The DUmbasses, functioning on lizard brains as they do, neither have, make, nor want friends.
Theirs is a vicious, greedy, hate-filled community.
But by their actions and lunatic opinion-spouting they influence lots of people every day, just not in a way Dale Carnegie would approve.

[Tucker]

Why is Stinky using ghetto slang?

His use of the term "big bidniss" by a whitey should be offensive to all decent black thugs everywhere.

[franksolich]

Coach, you gotta give credit where it's due. The DUmbasses, functioning on lizard brains as they do, neither have, make, nor want friends.
Theirs is a vicious, greedy, hate-filled community.
But by their actions and lunatic opinion-spouting they influence lots of people every day, just not in a way Dale Carnegie would approve.

Well, what gets me is my natural courtesy overrides my comfort zone.

If I'm shunning someone, and if he's shunning me, it's all good, that's the way it's supposed to be.

But if I'm shunning someone, and he's still talking to me, damn, my natural courtesy takes over, and I have to respond to him, because I'm a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet, and it's not gracious nor polite to not respond.

"Mrs. Alfred Packer does Memorial Day" is turning out a great story, a brilliant work, at least ten times better than any of the previous stories--it takes the cake--and I'll probably unleash it late tonight (Wednesday night) or sometime tomorrow (Thursday).

It's turning out awesome, but I'll bet, after he reads it, the sparkling husband primitive'll wish he had shunned franksolich, acted as if franksolich never existed.

[GOBUCKS]

Why is Stinky using ghetto slang?

His use of the term "big bidniss" by a whitey should be offensive to all decent black thugs everywhere.

It's not ghetto. It's just Stimpy mocking decent and civilized Americans.

It's his juvenile attempt to emulate nutcase nadin's "Murikans".

[franksolich]

It's not ghetto. It's just Stimpy mocking decent and civilized Americans.

It's his juvenile attempt to emulate nutcase nadin's "Murikans".

What drives me nuts about the sparkling husband primitive is his use of "teevee."

When I see "teevee," I think of some middle-aged guy in a 1970s leisure suit, jiggling and snapping his fingers, and suggesting to the teenaged boys that they all go out and "have a little fun."

It, uh, doesn't look well for the sparkling husband primitive, who's painting a self-portrait with his own words, to use "teevee."

[GOBUCKS]

Way to bait the pinhead, coach.

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:27 PM
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The Teevee Nooz is full of stories about John Edwards being indicted.

Stimpy has a window open here, full time.
 

[dandi]

Way to bait the pinhead, coach.
Stimpy has a window open here, full time.

Do you think it pisses the Baltimore slum lord off to know that Frank lives in his head rent free?

[Ralph Wiggum]

Do you think it pisses the Baltimore slum lord off to know that Frank lives in his head rent free?

Now you're really baiting him.  Hi Stinky!

[dandi]

Now you're really baiting him.  Hi Stinky!

It's almost like I did it on purpose, huh?   

[Jason]

Stinky The Clown   (1000+ posts)             Wed May-25-11 03:58 PM
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21. Well now . . . .
   
. . . . . Don't blame me for you having such a lonely life that you have to sit there, without benefit of human interaction apart from the Internet message boards, and make up long, silly, vividly imaginative, flights of fancy about people who you envy. If you weren't so mean spirited (through the smaller minds that you incite and enthrall with your silly ramblings - I call it Insult By Proxy Syndrome - I, like you say you already have to your fictional anthropologists, should submit it to a professional body for evaluation.) we might have some sympathy for the pathos that is your being.

But alas, you bring it on yourself with your peeping tomitude. How sad and dreary.

Oh for ****s face Stinky.  Just grow some balls and post here. 

We would gladly come over and tear you and your ilk a new asshole, but your free speech loving masters won't allow dissent.  The only way to do this is for you to crawl out of your hole, what are you afraid of?

[dandi]

Oh for ****s face Stinky.  Just grow some balls and post here. 

We would gladly come over and tear you and your ilk a new asshole, but your free speech loving masters won't allow dissent.  The only way to do this is for you to crawl out of your hole, what are you afraid of?

Like I said, Frank lives in his head rent free.  Whenever Frank posts, Stinky reacts.  The best advantage in any contest is to control your opponent and make them react the way you want them to.

Stanky's posts are a prime example.

[Rebel]

I love onions. They're great on burgers and in chili. Vidalia's are the best. 

[thundley4]

I love onions. They're great on burgers and in chili. Vidalia's are the best. 

Vidalias are good for making home made onion rings.

[GOBUCKS]

Vidalias are good for making home made onion rings.

Vidalias are great for everything.
Too bad they don't keep worth a damn.

[Randy]

The rest of the guys have to do their own job and someone else's. 

Hell I have to pick up the slack from an ungodly number of lazy ****s now and we're not in a union.