Bluebear (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 03:02 AM
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Christian Students Mock Atheist, Say Prayer at Graduation
A high school in Louisiana removed a traditional prayer from its graduation ceremony after an atheist student complained. But one of the students put it back in.
Last week Damon Fowler wrote to the principal of Bastrop High School, saying the Christian prayer was a violation of church and state separation laws, and if it wasn't removed, he would contact the ACLU.
The school backed down and removed the prayer from Friday's program and replaced it with a moment of silence.
"I don't think it's a shame I'll be remembered this way, because what I'm doing is right," Fowler told TV station KTVE in Monroe, Louisiana.
However, the student who was supposed to introduce the moment of silence ignored the school's wishes, saying, "I now ask my fellow students who wish to join in to recite the Lord’s Prayer.†Laci Mattice said her faith compelled her to thank God for blessing the class of 2011.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/christian-students-mock-...
Note the article headline: reciting a prayer in the presence of an atheist is now public mocking.
ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 06:19 AM
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6. a prime example of what happens when you undermine the authority of schools,
courts, police.... it would be like me going up to the school and in front of my kid yelling at her teacher and telling the teacher not to yell at my kid. what do you think is going to happen. now my kid is going to think she can do whatever she wants and doesn't have to listen to the teacher. that is not only wrong, especially when i expect that teacher to teach my kid something, but it is dangerous. because now my kid will use that as an excuse to do other things they shouldn't be doing because they don't have to listen to anyone... go out and have sex.... drink.... drugs.... lots of stupid things kids do.
This is from the same crowd of people that want to hand out birth control and transport under-aged girls across state lines for abortions without parental consent.
Vehl (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 12:02 PM
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22. yes
Edited on Tue May-24-11 12:02 PM by Vehl
But otoh I'm pretty sure most of the admins of the school might be secretly happy that this girl did what she did.
I fail to see the ideological difference between the actions of people who fly their aircraft into buildings cos their religions tells them to ignore laws, and what this girl did.
I can think of 3,000 differences.
cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 12:23 PM
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26. So when the entire audience broke into applause, they were ALL fundies?
Edited on Tue May-24-11 12:23 PM by cleanhippie
Vehl (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 12:58 PM
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42. If they Applauded? yes
It's not as if they were not aware of the issues surrounding the prayer thing because it was all over the news. Thus the ones who applauded were religious fundies for the simple reason they chose religious authority/preference over secular law.
Fundies come in all shades..from the ones that kill people to those like these..the common thread connecting them is their mutual preference for religious notions/habits/laws over secular one.
The REVEREND Martin Luther King and said, "STFU n00b!"
backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 01:01 PM
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44. They certainly put their own beliefs in Sky Daddy ahead of rule of law. n/t
You stupid ****s.
I swear I'm going to start a suicide run just to put some learnin' to your ig'nant asses.
Here, read this:
The Underground Railroad was an informal network of secret routes and safe houses used by 19th-century black slaves in the United States to escape to free states and Canada with the aid of abolitionists and allies who were sympathetic to their cause.[2] The term is also applied to the abolitionists, both black and white, free and enslaved, who aided the fugitives.[3] Other various routes led to Mexico or overseas.[4] Created in the early 19th century, the Underground Railroad was at its height between 1850 and 1860.[5] One estimate suggests that by 1850, 100,000 slaves had escaped via the "Railroad".[5]
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Under the original Fugitive Slave Law of 1793, the responsibility for catching runaway slaves fell to officials of the states whence the slaves came, and the Underground Railroad thrived.
With heavy political lobbying, the Compromise of 1850, passed by Congress after the Mexican-American War, stipulated a more stringent Fugitive Slave Law. Ostensibly, the compromise redressed all regional problems. However, it coerced officials of free states to assist slave catchers if there were runaway slaves in the area, and granted slave catchers national immunity when in free states to do their job.[8]
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The escape network was solely "underground" in the sense of being an underground resistance. The network was known as a "railroad" by way of the use of rail terminology in the code.[12] The Underground Railroad consisted of meeting points, secret routes, transportation, and safe houses, and assistance provided by abolitionist sympathizers. Individuals were often organized in small, independent groups, which helped to maintain secrecy since some knew of connecting "stations" along the route but few details of their immediate area. Escaped slaves would move along the route from one way station to the next, steadily making their way north. "Conductors" on the railroad came from various backgrounds and included free-born blacks, white abolitionists, former slaves (either escaped or manumitted), and Native Americans. Churches also often played a role, especially the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Congregationalists, Wesleyans, and Reformed Presbyterians as well as certain sects of mainstream denominations such as branches of the Methodist church and American Baptists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_RailroadBasically, the lefties know they are losing the "separation of church and state" debate so now they're floating ballons for a secular vs. religious precedence in law argument.
As with all things liberal, it is contingent upon ignorance and demagogury.
Speaking of which:
Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Tue May-24-11 05:55 AM
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5. This is what you get when you type LAci Mattice into google:
Adolescent Christian High School girls: they'll slit your throat, commandeer your plane and crash it into your stuff
And on it goes...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1162502This is odd.
In other threads they are seething that Netanyahu stands firm for the defense of Israel and he's such a boor for doing so and apparently its all a matter of religion.
Now Laci Mattice is catching the same level of grief.
Yet, the sub-savage thugs that perpetrate Islamist violence are apparently the aggrieved party.
