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Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans and for their health insurance premiums.
   
I'm sick of hearing how public workers are just leeches. Public workers also go with out cost of living raises when times are rough and take furlough days. Don't stand and scream unfair if you are unwilling to hand your financial wellbeing and workplace safety over to a greedy employer in the private sector. It is the unions in the public sector that have helped to hang on to the shreds of workers' rights that still exist.

Go f yourself with a broom stick. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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14. I am a public employee and my employer pays my premiums BUT
   
we have shit coverage with high office visit fees and our prescriptions are ridiculously expensive.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 09:39:38 AM »
CC27, the top poster is 100% correct.  Most of us in the public sector do pay into our retirement pensions and foot most of the bill for our health coverage.  I pay over $7000 per year just to have an insurance card.  Any doctor visits or prescriptions, I have to pay for.  I don't really have insurance until I reach a $4,000 deductible, so it's basically catastrophic coverage.  I bitch about it, yes, but it's better than nothing.  I haven't had a COLA raise in 2 years now.  For the 5 years prior to that we got 3% each year, which was swallowed up (and then some) by health insurance premium increases.  I make a lot less now than I did 7 years ago.  It's not an easy or free ride for us, either.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 09:45:43 AM »
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14. I am a public employee and my employer pays my premiums BUT
  
we have shit coverage with high office visit fees and our prescriptions are ridiculously expensive.

Wah, cry me a river. I don't make anything near school teacher wages, no tenure with a risk of layoff with down turns in business. I have COPD so I need insurance. Your messiah has turned my insurance into high priced for shit insurance just like yours and *I* get to pay heavily into mine. I feel about as much pity for your leeching ass as I do a tick on the ass of a dog.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 09:46:18 AM »
CC27, the top poster is 100% correct.  Most of us in the public sector do pay into our retirement pensions and foot most of the bill for our health coverage.  I pay over $7000 per year just to have an insurance card.  Any doctor visits or prescriptions, I have to pay for.  I don't really have insurance until I reach a $4,000 deductible, so it's basically catastrophic coverage.  I bitch about it, yes, but it's better than nothing.  I haven't had a COLA raise in 2 years now.  For the 5 years prior to that we got 3% each year, which was swallowed up (and then some) by health insurance premium increases.  I make a lot less now than I did 7 years ago.  It's not an easy or free ride for us, either.

Sorry, i just see a DUmmie post something like this and the F bomb starts flying. Don't know if they are lying or not. Sorry again.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 10:07:41 AM »
lol, I'm not offended, I just want to clarify that not all of us have it made like the folks in Wisconsin do.  Those of us in the public sector are certainly feeling this recession, too.  We've had to make a buttload of concessions in the past 10 years because we saw this coming and we're just glad to have jobs.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 11:17:43 AM »
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14. I am a public employee and my employer pays my premiums BUT
   
we have shit coverage with high office visit fees and our prescriptions are ridiculously expensive.

Isn't this a relative term?

Miss Pritchett maybe comparing her $7 co-pay to another persons $3 co-pay. To her little mind, a increase in co-pay of over 100% is ridiculously expensive.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 11:43:38 AM »
I pay $180 each month for 30 little ADHD pills for my son.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 11:47:23 AM »
I pay $180 each month for 30 little ADHD pills for my son.

PM me what they're called and I'll check something out for you.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 12:05:43 PM »
PM me what they're called and I'll check something out for you.

You don't live in the apartment below Evil Conservative do you?  :-)

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 12:29:39 PM »
You don't live in the apartment below Evil Conservative do you?  :-)

LMAO no, and while yes I am sitting on a pile of pills they're all prescribed to me for my ailments and wouldn't help the young one at all.  :-)

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 12:47:33 PM »
LMAO no, and while yes I am sitting on a pile of pills they're all prescribed to me for my ailments and wouldn't help the young one at all.  :-)
Would that be because it is morally wrong to give Viagra to children?  :tongue: :-)
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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 12:50:29 PM »
Would that be because it is morally wrong to give Viagra to children?  :tongue: :-)

Well while it would cure an attention problem I don't really think that's the one Dad had in mind.  :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 12:54:04 PM »
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we have shit coverage.
It sounds like that policy was tailored specifically for proud2BDUmb Anne Pritchett.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 07:43:41 AM »
I pay $180 each month for 30 little ADHD pills for my son.
Ah Concerta! I had my kids neurologist take him off of that and put him on Adderall instead because it is a fraction of what the longer lasting meds cost. He has to take it twice a day but it's still so much cheaper!
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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 07:46:06 AM »
Ah Concerta! I had my kids neurologist take him off of that and put him on Adderall instead because it is a fraction of what the longer lasting meds cost. He has to take it twice a day but it's still so much cheaper!

Metadate.  We had him on Adderall, but he was having really bad crashes in the evenings.  When the meds dumped out of his system, he became EVIL.  It was scary.  He would wish death on the whole family and even on himself.  He's only 12.  :(  Metadate was a life saver, probably literally.  It stays in his system and when we let him withdraw over the weekends, it's a smooth transition.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 07:49:51 AM »
Hmmmm...seems I read somewhere that in the WI public employees sector, for every $1 they put in, their balance increases by something like $57. 

Wish I had it that good.  I think right now, my company will do 50 percent match up to 6 percent.  3 whole ****ing percent of my base, which if I put in the max 401(k) contribution at $16,500, they'd be chipping in about 10 percent...  Woo-hoo.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 07:51:21 AM »
CC27, the top poster is 100% correct.  Most of us in the public sector do pay into our retirement pensions and foot most of the bill for our health coverage.  I pay over $7000 per year just to have an insurance card.  Any doctor visits or prescriptions, I have to pay for.  I don't really have insurance until I reach a $4,000 deductible, so it's basically catastrophic coverage.  I bitch about it, yes, but it's better than nothing.  I haven't had a COLA raise in 2 years now.  For the 5 years prior to that we got 3% each year, which was swallowed up (and then some) by health insurance premium increases.  I make a lot less now than I did 7 years ago.  It's not an easy or free ride for us, either.
Yeah same here. My insurance has a high deductible and i pay into the state health/retirement system to pay for it. Also pay into the pension and the district matches that. Haven't had a raise of any kind in 6 or 7 years and when we got them before then they were always 1%. We have made many concessions in the last 10 years in order to keep our jobs. Oh and i've had my workload doubled because of budget cuts. It has not been all wine and roses like some folks think. I am thankful for my job nonetheless.
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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 07:55:46 AM »
I'm very thankful to have a job.  Law Enforcement was supposed to be recession-proof.  Not so much these days.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 08:05:13 AM »
Metadate.  We had him on Adderall, but he was having really bad crashes in the evenings.  When the meds dumped out of his system, he became EVIL.  It was scary.  He would wish death on the whole family and even on himself.  He's only 12.  :(  Metadate was a life saver, probably literally.  It stays in his system and when we let him withdraw over the weekends, it's a smooth transition.
Wow! That's a bad reaction! My boys crash too but usually I just give them a little caffinated pop and it pops them right back until bed.
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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 08:08:04 AM »
Yeah, we were about to call in an exorcism specialist.   :lmao:

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 08:08:34 AM »
Wow! That's a bad reaction! My boys crash too but usually I just give them a little caffinated pop and it pops them right back until bed.

That would be Coke or soda to southern folk. Some don't know what pop is.
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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 08:26:32 AM »
CC27, the top poster is 100% correct.  Most of us in the public sector do pay into our retirement pensions and foot most of the bill for our health coverage.  I pay over $7000 per year just to have an insurance card.  Any doctor visits or prescriptions, I have to pay for.  I don't really have insurance until I reach a $4,000 deductible, so it's basically catastrophic coverage.  I bitch about it, yes, but it's better than nothing.  I haven't had a COLA raise in 2 years now.  For the 5 years prior to that we got 3% each year, which was swallowed up (and then some) by health insurance premium increases.  I make a lot less now than I did 7 years ago.  It's not an easy or free ride for us, either.

I'm not sure that is better than nothing. I have nothing from a company.  I'm self employed and have an individual policy for me and one child that has $4000 out of pocket max, coverage pays for an annual physicals for both of us,  but other doctor visits are out of pocket.  I have an HSA for other expenses.  It costs me less than $3500 a year.

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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 08:48:14 AM »
I'm not sure that is better than nothing. I have nothing from a company.  I'm self employed and have an individual policy for me and one child that has $4000 out of pocket max, coverage pays for an annual physicals for both of us,  but other doctor visits are out of pocket.  I have an HSA for other expenses.  It costs me less than $3500 a year.

I tried going outside of my employer for coverage last year and ended up with a limited indemnity.  It was great.........until I had to use it.  That horrible experience put me back with my Cigna HSA.

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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 10:30:31 AM »

I tried going outside of my employer for coverage last year and ended up with a limited indemnity.  It was great.........until I had to use it.  That horrible experience put me back with my Cigna HSA.



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Re: Public workers pay taxes and into their retirement plans skidmore
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 11:05:16 AM »

Bitch, bitch, bitch. Not grateful for anything.

no shit man.  You could give these ****ers a million dollars and a pony and they would still find something to complain about.
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