DUmbasses surviving on recycled rage

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I like this Walker fellow more each day.

Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Mar-03-11 08:27 AM
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Gov. Wanker wants to scrap State's 20yr old recycling Law
   
Madison, Wis. (Learfield)

- Wisconsin’s 20-year-old mandatory recycling law would be tossed in the garbage under Governor Scott Walker’s next state budget. The Republican Walker says communities would no longer be required to have recycling programs – and those that do would stop getting state money to help run them. Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie says the goal is to help communities cut their costs by reducing state mandates, while helping fix the state’s budget deficit at the same time.

But Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said Walker “doesn’t want us to recycle.” And he says the governor is quote, “continuing his assault on any environmental program he can see.” Barrett said Milwaukee’s landfill costs would jump by two-and-a-half million dollars a year due to higher dumping fees that won’t go away.

Lynn Morgan of Waste Management said Wisconsin needs to grow recycling, not gut it. Her company has spent up to 35-million dollars on recycling facilities in southeast Wisconsin, most of it for a plant in Germantown. She said garbage is marketable, but it needs state mandates and subsidies to flourish. But Waukesha County administration director Norm Cummings vows to keep recycling alive. He said high prices for metals have allowed his programs to build up some reserve funds to keep programs going

http://whbl.com/news/articles/2011/mar/02/wisconsins-re...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x546317

After which the DUmbasses assure us life on Earth is doomed.

But I would like to re-emphasize something in the article:

Lynn Morgan of Waste Management said Wisconsin needs to grow recycling, not gut it. Her company has spent up to 35-million dollars on recycling facilities in southeast Wisconsin, most of it for a plant in Germantown. She said garbage is marketable, but it needs state mandates and subsidies to flourish. But Waukesha County administration director Norm Cummings vows to keep recycling alive. He said high prices for metals have allowed his programs to build up some reserve funds to keep programs going

Besides fulminating do any DUmbasses want to point out any distinctions and/or differences?

[Carl]

It needs state mandates and subsidies huh?
Sounds like a mini trip behind the iron curtain to me...oh wait,that is where it always leads to isn`t it?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

It needs state mandates and subsidies huh?
Sounds like a mini trip behind the iron curtain to me...oh wait,that is where it always leads to isn`t it?

And yet the one program that is self-sustaining will continue...

...on its own without state assistance.

Golly! What is a bunny to think about that?

[LC EFA]

...
 She said garbage is marketable, but it needs state mandates and subsidies to flourish.
...

I could sell Calpiggie's poetry out of the back of a buick if I had enough of a subsidy, or a state mandate that everyone purchase it or be shot.

[Doc Savage]

If it is marketable, offer lower curb side service as long as households agree to recycle.  Incentives the process to your customer. 

[Karin]

In the early 90's, NY went big for this.  There were strict rules and procedures galore.  You had to buy special clear bags, state approved and issued, to put your regular garbage in.  Collectors could sift through it and reject it outright if one stray catfood can was amidst the kleenex.  There were special stickers and fees and bins and regulations, and snoopery, and all differed among the many and various towns.  Neighbors could see and count your wine and liquor bottles right at curbside.  It collapsed on itself while I was away in CT.  People got sick of it, and so did the municipal gov'ts. 

Now, it's voluntary.  The mayor said on his radio program yesterday that "all that stuff ends up in the same landfill altogether anyway." 

[DumbAss Tanker]

If it is marketable, offer lower curb side service as long as households agree to recycle.  Incentives the process to your customer. 

Yeah, tape a $10 bill to every copy and sell them for $8 apiece.  Which is about what we actually do with wind, solar, biofuels, and recycling.  Oh, and electric cars, too.

[Boudicca]

In the early 90's, NY went big for this.  There were strict rules and procedures galore.  You had to buy special clear bags, state approved and issued, to put your regular garbage in.  Collectors could sift through it and reject it outright if one stray catfood can was amidst the kleenex.  There were special stickers and fees and bins and regulations, and snoopery, and all differed among the many and various towns.  Neighbors could see and count your wine and liquor bottles right at curbside.  It collapsed on itself while I was away in CT.  People got sick of it, and so did the municipal gov'ts. 

Now, it's voluntary.  The mayor said on his radio program yesterday that "all that stuff ends up in the same landfill altogether anyway."  

Exactly, Karin.  It's been some years ago, but I remember some middle schooler or high schooler doing a research project on where all the recyclables from the school cafeteria ended up.  Kids were all supposed to separate out their garbage, with some going to be "recycled".  It ended up at the local garbage dump.

[Evil_Conservative]

Not sure if anyone has touched on this yet, but in Wisconsin (at least in Janesville where I grew up) the city sends two separate trucks to pick up the garbage and recycling.  So you have garbage trucks on Wednesdays and recycling trucks every other Wednesday.  Think of all that money that is being wasted on TWO vehicles and FOUR workers?  One driver/lifter per truck.

If you want to recycle, drive to the nearest recycling center.  Janesville has one facility, if I recall correctly and then many locations with those recycling canisters. 

There is one just three blocks from my parents house, but they just throw out their little green container for the truck to come by and get it instead of taking it themselves.

[Karin]

That is wasteful, EC.  I think that's why it collapsed here.  "We just can't afford this bullshit" the various towncouncils and mayors said to themselves.  Without fanfare, they quietly let it die.  We don't have the tax base of a lot of rich people, like a Greenwich or a Westchester.  Everybody pinches pennies, including the little towns. 

[DefiantSix]

...But Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said Walker “doesn’t want us to recycle.” And he says the governor is quote, “continuing his assault on any environmental program he can see.” Barrett said Milwaukee’s landfill costs would jump by two-and-a-half million dollars a year due to higher dumping fees that won’t go away....

I've got $20 that says this assclown is spending the state subsidies from this debacle on more than just the administering of the recycling program in his city.

[GOBUCKS]

Recycling programs are more insidious and wasteful scams than even global warming, because a lot of people who aren't even moonbats believe in them. Our schoolchildren are being indoctrinated to feel guilty about throwing away trash, just as they're being brainwashed on the Algore crap.

The only recycling that makes sense has been around for decades: scrap dealers. They buy any material that makes sense to recycle, and always have. Every other recycling activity, without exception, is nothing but another black hole to swallow up taxpayer money, benefitting no one except the Algorian businesses set up to cash in on the scam.

[NHSparky]

Hmmmm...so lemme get this straight.  Recycling is good for the environment and the cans, paper, and bottles are worth a shitload of money, so they say.

But most of the stuff ends up in the same landfill and the same companies that are MAKING MONEY off the materials recycled want MORE money on top of that.

IOW, double dipping is good, right?  Am I missing something here?

[DefiantSix]

Hmmmm...so lemme get this straight.  Recycling is good for the environment and the cans, paper, and bottles are worth a shitload of money, so they say.

But most of the stuff ends up in the same landfill and the same companies that are MAKING MONEY off the materials recycled want MORE money on top of that.

IOW, double dipping is good, right?  Am I missing something here?

Nope; sounds like you got it all.

[docstew]

Hmmmm...so lemme get this straight.  Recycling is good for the environment and the cans, paper, and bottles are worth a shitload of money, so they say.

But most of the stuff ends up in the same landfill and the same companies that are MAKING MONEY off the materials recycled want MORE money on top of that.

IOW, double dipping is good, right?  Am I missing something here?

If that were true, why do they need mandates and subsidies?  It would seem to me the companies selling these recyclables would be paying the municipalities for exclusive rights to have such a rich resource stream that had such high value, not the other way around.

[Chris_]

I've got $20 that says this assclown is spending the state subsidies from this debacle on more than just the administering of the recycling program in his city.

If Barrett has such a hard-on for recycling, why isn't Milwaukee paying for their own program?

[AllosaursRus]

I've got $20 that says this assclown is spending the state subsidies from this debacle on more than just the administering of the recycling program in his city.

Anyone want to look up this little "lady's" house to see if she's living in government squalor?

Lynn Morgan of Waste Management said Wisconsin needs to grow recycling, not gut it. Her company has spent up to 35-million dollars on recycling facilities in southeast Wisconsin, most of it for a plant in Germantown. She said garbage is marketable, but it needs state mandates and subsidies to flourish.

Lynn, you ignorant twit! Why should we subsidize your business? If you can't make it on your own, why the hell did you get into it in the first ****in' place? How much do you pay yourself with our subsidized dollars?