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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2011, 08:58:26 PM »
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You're not letting me?  How funny.  You're such an idiot.  And no, 48K isn't high for an educated workforce. One thing I sure wouldn't do is sign $150MM in tax breaks if facing a large looming budget deficit.

48K isn't for an educated workforce, you dolt. By your OWN admission, it's the AVERAGE pay for state workers and yes, when you include groundsmen, janitors, security guards, etc., it IS high. As for the tax breaks, link? If it's true, read above. Tax breaks stimulate an economy.

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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2011, 09:04:44 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on February 17, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
My husband makes less than $48K a year and pays more than 12% out of his salary for our health insurance & retirement plan.  Wisconsin public workers are spoiled little babies.

Ive never heard of anyone in the private sector gettin' their retirement paid by an employer! When I worked for HD, they would match what I put in, but only to a certain dollar figure, otherwise, it was all my money! These pricks are payin' what, 5%? And now, they wanna stop the state's business because they have to pay what the rest of us pay?????

I hope he sends the national Guard after these ****s, instead of usin' 'em for replacements after they left the state in trouble because they have left their jobs!

There's another big ****in' lie! The MSM is all over this sayin' he is employing the NG in order to slap down protesters! If only! He called 'em out just in case the state couldn't operate if they left their jobs!

Unions in the public sector need banned completely! How is it legal to hold the gubmint hostage over disagreements with your boss??????????? We pay their ****in' wages! We're their boss! Fire 'em all!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2011, 09:05:54 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 17, 2011, 08:34:31 PM
This guy is a lyin' cocksucker! Ask him what he makes! Also, the Governor is only askin' them to pay one half of what those of us in the private sector already pay! What does he have to say about that????
Meh..put the feelers out - engage the private industry educational agencies - throw the public sector teachers and union administrative monies at the private sector teachers. Outlaw teachers unions - let the current public teacher parasites COMPETE for their now private sector jobs.


Watch the student's test scores explode into the stratosphere and the cost of education drop by 40%.

Next up - arrest and prosecute the teacher union heads as criminals under the RICO act. Then throw them in prison - REAL prison, in a cell with a 450 pound child molester!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2011, 09:14:33 PM »
Quote from: PatriotGame on February 17, 2011, 09:05:54 PM
Meh..put the feelers out - engage the private industry educational agencies - throw the public sector teachers and union administrative monies at the private sector teachers. Outlaw teachers unions - let the current public teacher parasites COMPETE for their now private sector jobs.


Watch the student's test scores explode into the stratosphere and the cost of education drop by 40%.

Next up - arrest and prosecute the teacher union heads as criminals under the RICO act. Then throw them in prison - REAL prison, in a cell with a 450 pound child molester!

You sure we weren't separated at birth? ^5!!!!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2011, 09:21:42 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 17, 2011, 09:04:44 PM
I hope he sends the national Guard after these ****s, instead of usin' 'em for replacements after they left the state in trouble because they have left their jobs!


That's some bullshit talking point by the left. He was getting the WARNG prepared so they can do the work of the rioting protesters. There is NOTHING the people protesting can do that the ARNG can't do. Whether it's finance, police, engineering, or whatever, the ARNG has the resources.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2011, 09:34:08 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 17, 2011, 09:14:33 PM
You sure we weren't separated at birth? ^5!!!!
I could only be so lucky..I'm traveling back to Idaho this summer to be with mom in Idiot Flats (Idaho Falls) ...you're gonna get a very big drunk-n-feed!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2011, 09:45:21 PM »
These chuckle heads never cease to amaze me with their brazenly reckless behavior. Taking children entrusted to their care out of school to bring them downtown in the Capitol to attend a street mob protest? WTF are they thinking???!!!
Here in New York, in my district if there is to be a scheduled field trip I am sent a permission slip to sign and return which explicitly outlines all the pertinent details and limitations of the trip. This is always followed up by a personal phone call from the teacher to me or my wife to verify. If I say no, my kid don't go!
God help them if they ever take a child of mine somewhere behind my back like that. I would be cramming a roomful of New York lawyers down their throats so effing fast they wouldn't have time to gag!

On a lighter note though, I did hear today that the Governor of Wisconsin will be demanding the appropriate written documentation verifying medical services sought in the event any teachers have claimed a sick day to run off and frolic in the streets.

I say fire the whole rotten lot ala Ronald Reagan!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2011, 09:50:31 PM »
Quote from: FreeBorn on February 17, 2011, 09:45:21 PM
On a lighter note though, I did hear today that the Governor of Wisconsin will be demanding the appropriate written documentation verifying medical services sought in the event any teachers have claimed a sick day to run off and frolic in the streets.


Good.  I told my husband last night that Gov. Walker should demand to see doctor notes for all of these sudden illnesses.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2011, 09:56:51 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on February 17, 2011, 09:50:31 PM
Good.  I told my husband last night that Gov. Walker should demand to see doctor notes for all of these sudden illnesses.
Remember when education used to be about our children?
Whoa, what a concept! :stupidpeople:
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2011, 10:00:36 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on February 17, 2011, 09:50:31 PM
Good.  I told my husband last night that Gov. Walker should demand to see doctor notes for all of these sudden illnesses.
Every labor union worth its salt has a few crooked doctors on retainer to help defraud workers' comp. You can bet they'll be churning out bogus notes for these deadbeats.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2011, 10:11:44 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 17, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Every labor union worth its salt has a few crooked doctors on retainer to help defraud workers' comp. You can bet they'll be churning out bogus notes for these deadbeats.

I dunno, with ScareCare bein' so popular among the Docs, they might find themselves lacking!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2011, 10:15:49 PM »
I wish you guys and gals could see the Memphis Tigers political board, but it's hidden from guests. I'm too lazy to bring over anymore of this moron's posts.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2011, 10:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on February 17, 2011, 10:15:49 PM
I wish you guys and gals could see the Memphis Tigers political board, but it's hidden from guests. I'm too lazy to bring over anymore of this moron's posts.

Well, how 'bout givin' us a hint?
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2011, 11:02:18 PM »
Yes, do tell...
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2011, 04:30:21 AM »
FreeBorn, where in the PRNY are you located?  PM me.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2011, 05:39:12 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on February 17, 2011, 01:09:37 PM
While out on strike the state should call it UNPAID LEAVE.

In a beagle rush but just to add.  Unpaid leave = break in service  = loss of seniority.  Put that in yer pipe an smoke it.  Strike a little longer go ahead, make my collective bargaining  you jackwagons.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2011, 07:08:49 AM »
And what about the Democrat state senators who ran away to a fancy resort in Illinois, so as to prevent a quorum, and hence a vote?

Since they refuse to show up, is there some mechanism by which their seats can be declared vacant, and put up for election again?

I really don't know.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2011, 07:22:09 AM »
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I say fire the whole rotten lot ala Ronald Reagan!

Amen to that!  The more I see this and think about it, the more my blood boils.  Furthermore, if they don't have permission slips for a "field trip" charge them with kidnapping. 

Job abandonment?  What if I suddently decided, "gee this is too much stress.  I think I'll hit the bars instead of tackling this big problem."  Fired immediately with no good reference either. 

They quoted some dingbat on the radio news this morning referring to the Gov:  "He's taking away our voice, and he's taking away ALL OUR RIGHTS!!!!!!"   No, your voice is being heard just fine, on national news no less, and hyperbole concerning ALL YOUR RIGHTS will only make people become disgusted with you and your ilk. 
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2011, 07:27:15 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 18, 2011, 07:08:49 AM
And what about the Democrat state senators who ran away to a fancy resort in Illinois, so as to prevent a quorum, and hence a vote?

Since they refuse to show up, is there some mechanism by which their seats can be declared vacant, and put up for election again?

I really don't know.

I don't know about that, but there are some screwy laws for what the quorum is required for.  

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Article VIII, SECTION 8 (Vote on fiscal bills; quorum)

On the passage in either house of the legislature of any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state, the question shall be taken by yeas and nays, which shall be duly entered on the journal; and three-fifths of all the members elected to such house shall in all such cases be required to constitute a quorum therein.

Which apparently means, as the person who passed this along to the person who passed this along to me notes, that all the Wisconsin Senate has to do is separate out the portion of the budget bill that involves collective bargaining, pass that with a simple majority, and lo! Problem solved, and no more excuses for Wisconsin Senate Democrats to hide like little scared bunnies.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2011, 12:19:43 PM »
Oh, I love this:

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It is not a "big f'n average" given that the state hires many degreed workers.  Anyone with a functional brain would know that, but that excludes you.

Aside from the fact that the private sector hires many degreed workers as well, what the heck does that have to do with anything? Aside from teaching someone to be angry and ugly, how the hell does a degree in Wimmins Studies benefit the community?

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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2011, 12:56:32 PM »
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Oh, I love this:

Aside from the fact that the private sector hires many degreed workers as well, what the heck does that have to do with anything? Aside from teaching someone to be angry and ugly, how the hell does a degree in Wimmins Studies benefit the community?

Cindie

They teach 'em how to use a shovel handle for a dildo....the ones standing by the highway aren't even that bright.

....and the new 'stand alone' shovel is going to take all their jobs.
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2011, 12:58:42 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on February 18, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
They teach 'em how to use a shovel handle for a dildo....the ones standing by the highway aren't even that bright.

....and the new 'stand alone' shovel is going to take all their jobs.

Ewwwww!!! Icky!!!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2011, 02:10:08 PM »
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Article VIII, SECTION 8 (Vote on fiscal bills; quorum)

On the passage in either house of the legislature of any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state, the question shall be taken by yeas and nays, which shall be duly entered on the journal; and three-fifths of all the members elected to such house shall in all such cases be required to constitute a quorum therein.

Which apparently means, as the person who passed this along to the person who passed this along to me notes, that all the Wisconsin Senate has to do is separate out the portion of the budget bill that involves collective bargaining, pass that with a simple majority, and lo! Problem solved, and no more excuses for Wisconsin Senate Democrats to hide like little scared bunnies.

Ah, but there lies the dilemma. The Governor wants to end collective bargaining over healthcare and pensions and just use it for wages unless approved by voters. Lose the collective crap, and the unions can still hold the state hostage over their benefits. That defeats the purpose! This is actually what they're protesting. They want their cake, and eat it too!

Fire 'em all! If this had happened in the summer, I have no doubt there would be a lot of teachers headin' to the unemployment line! Right now, it would wreak havoc in the school system! Kinda makes me wonder why he didn't wait. Maybe their budget has to be passed, unlike how our congress critters can put it off for an entire ****in' year and then play craps with each other when it becomes a "shut down" moment!!!!

The Gov and the Repubs need to stick to their guns! Last I heard, he sent the State Police to bring one of 'em back in order to have the bodies needed! I like this Walker!!! He's my kinda guy!
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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2011, 04:07:25 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 17, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Every labor union worth its salt has a few crooked doctors on retainer to help defraud workers' comp. You can bet they'll be churning out bogus notes for these deadbeats.
http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/02/fake-doctors-notes-being-handed-out-at-wisconsin-gov-union-rally/

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Re: know it all Nadin is back with more on Wisconsin
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2011, 04:12:33 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 19, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/02/fake-doctors-notes-being-handed-out-at-wisconsin-gov-union-rally/

If you read the script, and understand the script, anyone can do this.


The DUmp has a thread celebrating the heroic doctors that are forging notes for teachers. I wonder how many of those doctors are billing the insurance companies for an office call.
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