Horrible

[Gina]

Facebook message of one of my friends

please pray... if you can. pray that a lady i know doesn't go through with an abortion just because of gender. Please say a prayer. Procedure is scheduled for tomorrow.

I just want to beat the shit out of this woman that is even considering this.  She is 16 weeks pregnant and has 2 other daughters.  She is upset she is having another daughter.

[Evil_Conservative]

Seriously, Gina?  What a selfish bitch.  Shame on the doctor that would preform the abortion.  That's murder.  Who cares if you're having yet another daughter?  What is she going to tell her daughter's when they asked what happened to their baby sister or brother?

Disgusting.

[Gina]

I don't know  

I actually had a moment where I hoped that if she is going to kill that baby, that she has a car wreck on the way to the procedure and she goes too.

[Evil_Conservative]

I don't know  

I actually had a moment where I hoped that if she is going to kill that baby, that she has a car wreck on the way to the procedure and she goes too.

I hope she never gets pregnant again if she goes through with the procedure.

[Ballygrl]

What an idiot! Just said a prayer now that this woman changes her mind.

[seahorse513]

With so many women who cannot have children for whatever reason(myself included) let me be the first to this woman!!!!!!

[NHSparky]

This isn't about a woman's "choice".  It's pure evil in the name of convenience, plain and simple.

[compaqxp]

We need tougher regulation for things like this so this can't happen.

[Ballygrl]

The only time certain elective abortions will be eliminated if if they find a "gay gene" and it would be illegal to murder your baby in the womb if they were found to have that gene. The difference between the left and the right though is this, we would be against aborting a child with a "gay gene" as much as we are for aborting a child because of their sex or the inconvenience of it, but the left is all for abortion except if a "gay gene" was to be found, then it would be wrong!

[Boudicca]

The only time certain elective abortions will be eliminated if if they find a "gay gene" and it would be illegal to murder your baby in the womb if they were found to have that gene. The difference between the left and the right though is this, we would be against aborting a child with a "gay gene" as much as we are for aborting a child because of their sex or the inconvenience of it, but the left is all for abortion except if a "gay gene" was to be found, then it would be wrong!

I'm actually fairly astonished that the Left is so pro abortion, since quite a vast amount of abortions are performed on brown and black babies.  This is counter to their use as "persecuted minority" groups, plus it takes away potential future Democratic voters.

[Gina]

The only time certain elective abortions will be eliminated if if they find a "gay gene" and it would be illegal to murder your baby in the womb if they were found to have that gene. The difference between the left and the right though is this, we would be against aborting a child with a "gay gene" as much as we are for aborting a child because of their sex or the inconvenience of it, but the left is all for abortion except if a "gay gene" was to be found, then it would be wrong!

Brilliant post and so true!  ^5

[thundley4]

I'm actually fairly astonished that the Left is so pro abortion, since quite a vast amount of abortions are performed on brown and black babies.  This is counter to their use as "persecuted minority" groups, plus it takes away potential future Democratic voters.

They deny and obfuscate those facts showing that minorities are the targeted group of abortionists.

[dandi]

We need tougher regulation for things like this so this can't happen.

You need to sit your ass in a corner and color.

[njpines]

I'm actually fairly astonished that the Left is so pro abortion, since quite a vast amount of abortions are performed on brown and black babies.  This is counter to their use as "persecuted minority" groups, plus it takes away potential future Democratic voters.

Eugenics is a sick and twisted ideology -- no real difference between it and Hitler's idea of the Aryan 'master' race, just different methods by which to get there.

[thundley4]

You need to sit your ass in a corner and color.

hi5 

[Alpha Mare]

I'm actually fairly astonished that the Left is so pro abortion, since quite a vast amount of abortions are performed on brown and black babies.  This is counter to their use as "persecuted minority" groups, plus it takes away potential future Democratic voters.

It's about the right to sleep with whoever they drag home and not 'be punished with a baby as a result of that mistake.'  It's birth control for selfish, irresponsible ****tards and that's all it is.

[rubliw]

Seriously, Gina?  What a selfish bitch.  Shame on the doctor that would preform the abortion.  That's murder.  Who cares if you're having yet another daughter?  What is she going to tell her daughter's when they asked what happened to their baby sister or brother?

Disgusting.

In your opinion, its murder.  But neither this woman, nor I (nor anyone) else are rationally obligated to agree with your conclusion based on any demonstrable facts.  In fact, the underpinnings of most pro-life opinions are based squarely on theological/religious thought... so we certainly arent obligated to accept and adhere to those beliefs either.   I say abortion (up to a point) is not murder.

And abortions happen every day here, this is not a unique occurrence - there are somewhere in between 500,000-1,000,000 each year in the US.  Why is everyone so shocked and appalled that some woman somebody knows is having one?  

[Ballygrl]

In your opinion, its murder.  But neither this woman, nor I (nor anyone) else are rationally obligated to agree with your conclusion based on any demonstrable facts.  In fact, the underpinnings of most pro-life opinions are based squarely on theological/religious thought... so we certainly arent obligated to accept and adhere to those beliefs either.   I say abortion (up to a point) is not murder.

And abortions happen every day here, this is not a unique occurrence - there are somewhere in between 500,000-1,000,000 each year in the US.  Why is everyone so shocked and appalled that some woman somebody knows is having one?

You say up to a point it isn't murder, what is the breaking point for you? why would it be allowable say 1 day yet a day later not allowable? As far as being shocked and appalled? I'm shocked and appalled at every abortion, but when you hear excuses given as a reason for it as stated in the OP? that totally destroys the "poor woman made a mistake" argument.

[catsmtrods]

I got it. Why don't she just kill her least favorite daughter and have this one? She might get lucky and get one she likes?

[rubliw]

You say up to a point it isn't murder, what is the breaking point for you? why would it be allowable say 1 day yet a day later not allowable? As far as being shocked and appalled?

My view is a pretty standard pro-choice one - I think abortion is morally acceptable (though not really desirable) until about ~22 weeks - which is the point in pregnancy after which we really can't be sure the fetus is totally mindless.

I'm shocked and appalled at every abortion, but when you hear excuses given as a reason for it as stated in the OP? that totally destroys the "poor woman made a mistake" argument.

I don't know if I really agree with her reasons either, though I would never attempt to prohibit abortions for those kinds of reasons by law.  I'd hope that social pressures or taboos could minimize the abortions with "bad" reasons behind them.   Even if I don't consider it murder to terminate a pregnancy (within the aforementioned parameters) I think it could be bad overall for people to have them because they don't have the right gender, hair color, genetic predispositions, etc..

[Ballygrl]

My view is a pretty standard pro-choice one - I think abortion is morally acceptable (though not really desirable) until about ~22 weeks - which is the point in pregnancy after which we really can't be sure the fetus is totally mindless.

I don't know if I really agree with her reasons either, though I would never attempt to prohibit abortions for those kinds of reasons by law.  I'd hope that social pressures or taboos could minimize the abortions with "bad" reasons behind them.   Even if I don't consider it murder to terminate a pregnancy (within the aforementioned parameters) I think it could be bad overall for people to have them because they don't have the right gender, hair color, genetic predispositions, etc..

OK, the only problem is this though, you say up to week 22 is OK for you

Week 21:



Week 22:



Week 23:



The baby continues to develop but many of the things that have formed in week 21 are the same as week 22 and week 23, and the baby has only gained .01 pounds in weight in those 2 weeks, and the height difference in those 2 weeks is less than an inch. So why is week 21 and 22 acceptable but week 23 isn't?

[Evil_Conservative]

In your opinion, its murder.  But neither this woman, nor I (nor anyone) else are rationally obligated to agree with your conclusion based on any demonstrable facts.  In fact, the underpinnings of most pro-life opinions are based squarely on theological/religious thought... so we certainly arent obligated to accept and adhere to those beliefs either.   I say abortion (up to a point) is not murder.

And abortions happen every day here, this is not a unique occurrence - there are somewhere in between 500,000-1,000,000 each year in the US.  Why is everyone so shocked and appalled that some woman somebody knows is having one? 

Shut the **** up.

It's murder.  She is aborting the baby because the baby isn't the gender SHE wanted.  It's completely selfish.  I feel bad for her two children she already has.  This "woman" is willing to kill a child over GENDER. 

You make me sick.

[Evil_Conservative]

I'd like to apologize for telling rubliw to 'shut the **** up', that was rude.  But, you still make me sick.

[seahorse513]

I think it is sad that an unborn baby's life will be terminated because she is a girl. Each gender has something to give to society, A male provides for and protects the family, while a women carries and nutures future generations. Though nowadays many people(especially single parents) have to play dual roles. Not only that we have different family variations other than the traditional mom and dad. We have kids being raised by grandparents or other relatives, foster parents, even same gender parents.

I personally hope that this woman will reconsider.....

[Gina]

My view is a pretty standard pro-choice one - I think abortion is morally acceptable (though not really desirable) until about ~22 weeks - which is the point in pregnancy after which we really can't be sure the fetus is totally mindless.

I don't know if I really agree with her reasons either, though I would never attempt to prohibit abortions for those kinds of reasons by law.  I'd hope that social pressures or taboos could minimize the abortions with "bad" reasons behind them.   Even if I don't consider it murder to terminate a pregnancy (within the aforementioned parameters) I think it could be bad overall for people to have them because they don't have the right gender, hair color, genetic predispositions, etc..

Not sure of your gender but I am guessing male.   I have 3 kids and they were hardfought for over 11 years.  To say it's morally acceptable when at 16 weeks you can feel this BABY moving around inside is disgusting.  It should never get to be morally acceptable to kill an unborn because some woman chose to spread her legs and not take ALL precautions since sex is known to create a living being.  I can handle a woman in the case of rape or health of mom/child having an abortion but would hope it would be done very early on if possible. 

Babies become viable at 24 weeks, meaning they could survive with help outside the womb.  There have been cases of babies younger than 24 weeks  surviving. 

As someone said, it will only be unnacceptable if they discover the gay gene.     I do hope this woman's heart and mind are so traumatized that she will never have another peaceful day in her life,.