...and ends up in the Gun Forum, where she has her ass surgically removed and handed to her in a hermetically-sealed ammo crate.
This is what happens when a DUmmy from the Big Forums ventures into the real world, and no longer has his/her cheering section behind them, eagerly lapping their buttocks with "You Rock" signs and bouncing green smilies.
Two threads:
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 04:48 PM
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On an adult conversation on guns Updated at 9:59 PM
Now let me preface this with a few things.
1.- Nobody is going to take anybody's guns away. Not mine (we are gun owners after all), not yours.
2.- We know certain people will try to filibuster with the usual talking points. I ask, for the sake of discusion that they are fully and completely ignored. Let them scream, let them stamp, we want to have an adult conversation, it is well past time.
-more blathering-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x368858nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-26-11 11:50 PM
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Tucson... was the point when the country Updated at 9:59 PM
realized we cannot continue listening to the NRA...
I now firmly believe it. Whichever party takes on the NRA will do well.
I know this will not be popular, but you are seeing two republicans testing the waters... dc better pay attention... oh never mind.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x368484Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
49. My dad was military
and he left me his guns when he passed. He said the only reason for registering guns was to give the govt a list of gun owners for later confiscation. I saw what happened in New Orleans after Katrina and I am inclined to think he was right. Shrug.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. To answer your qustion and then I am leaving, since Updated at 9:59 PM
obviously management does not want an adult conversation either so feel free to use the PM.
The people doing the confiscation did not use licensees or registries... they were blackwater and simply took them from PEOPLE IN THE STREETS. They didn't check a damn thing... and while acting as agents of the state... they did not use a damn thing, 'xcept they were better armed. and I suspect better drilled.
Second... one of the big myths is that this is the last way to resist tyranny and all that. This is an NRA talking point. There have been a few states, see Iraq, where our armaments look like kid's toys. Yes AK-47s were common in private hands... the real thing... full auto and everything. That was under Sadam... gun control laws and Iraq never mixed. And yes, they did have a revolt in the south and we still don't know how many people died.
But anybody who thinks that we can fight the big bad guv'ment is delusional.
mwrguy (194 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #54
89. It wasn't Blackwater taking guns during katrina
It was cops on loan from other departments, plus national guard troops.
Real officials, in other words.
Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #54
99. There is video of Police and national guard going door to door and seizing firearms.
Blackwater.... Please.
Recursion (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 04:54 PM
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2. What do you mean by "the gun show loophole"?
That would be my first question; I'm not aware of any difference in laws at gun shows as opposed to anywhere else.
(You may consider that a filibuster; I get irritated by what I perceive as dishonesty in talking about a non-existent "gun-show loophole", but I want to be sure what you mean first.)
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 04:56 PM
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5. Here Updated at 9:59 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/gun-show-loophole-closed/story...
Simply put you and I can buy a gun from a private dealer without a background check.
Recursion (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. What does that have to do with gun shows?
Private individuals (that is, people who aren't licensed dealers) can sell guns that they own. What does this have to do with gun shows? Why not call it "the garage sale loophole"?
Is there a way of "closing" this "loophole" other than preventing all firearms sales except through licensed firearms dealers?
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. Good bye Updated at 9:59 PM
now the fillibustering begins
Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. Correcting blatantly false statements = filibustering ?
Don't make false statement and you won't get "filibustered".
Pretty simple concept. You can have your opinion and I can have my opinion but you can't simply make up fact.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. We need to start putting pressure Updated at 9:59 PM
and perhaps even... form our own lobby. This is interest group politics at it's heart. And pols are afraid of the NRA, with good reason mind you.
shadowrider (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
68. You have your own lobby. It's called the Brady Campaign
Donate to them, keep 'em goin. Push them for a ban on 30 rd. clips. PLEASE.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. There are worst case 50 people here who will filibuster Updated at 9:59 PM
I just put one on the iggy list. I recommend you do the same.
Then we can have it... not until then.
Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
45. So in other words..
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 05:34 PM by Upton
anybody who doesn't agree with your rather restrictive view of gun rights is filibustering and therefore should be put on ignore.
Your definition of "adult conversation" differs radically from mine.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #83
85. Because predictably any adult discussion sees you guys Updated at 9:59 PM
turn it into something else.
Like the NRA.
Have a good day. I am hiding thread now.
friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #85
94. Too many inconvenient truths for you, eh?
You're hiding the thread because you got responses you didn't like
friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-27-11 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #85
97. "I am hiding thread now." Aaand the OP bails on her own thread!
They don't seem do so well when they can't control the conversation, do they?
Just a small mixed sampling. Lotsa deleted posts and bitchslappin' goodness at the links.
