US Soldier = Nazi bouncy. Amazing...

[Tucker]

And no one I know..including myself...tend to open up to total strangers about what we've seen/done while deployed either.

That was the key to my knowing it was a bouncy in the highest degree.

Some people are alive only because it's against the law to kill em.

[AprilRazz]

Got a question for the Marines here.

My grandson was due to go into basic training and was in a hit and run accident.  Broke his arm and the date has been moved back to Feb when the arm heals.

Some woman who works with my daughter -in -law told her a story about her son in basic training who is now over seas.

Story goes that when her son showed up for Basic, the very next day they pulled the wisdom teeth of all men who still had them, then kept them awake for 24 hours out running about doing push up etc.


 She told DIL that had she known before he went in she would have had his dentist pull them a month early.

She also said she was told that until her son was 3/4 through training she should not make arrangements to visit the graduation as there was a large wash out of men that simply could not handle the training.

My son went ARMY and I have no idea how the Marines do things but could this possibly be true???

Wisdom teeth do get pulled but it is usually a mandatory 1-2 days SIQ (sick in quarters) and another day or so of light duty.
If you get set back then your graduation date is moved as well. The recruit could have failed tests and needs remediation.
The 24 hours thing is called The Crucible and it is meant to add stress and to push the recruits. Not as bad as you would think. The navy does battle stations where you are up for 24 hours as well. Pretty much the final exam. But that is at the end.
Now she could have been talking about in processing. You are kept up for a while while paperwork and the like are filled out but no recruit can be made to do any kind of PT until medically cleared and that usually takes a few days at least.

[Tucker]

Got a question for the Marines here.

My grandson was due to go into basic training and was in a hit and run accident.  Broke his arm and the date has been moved back to Feb when the arm heals.

Some woman who works with my daughter -in -law told her a story about her son in basic training who is now over seas.

Story goes that when her son showed up for Basic, the very next day they pulled the wisdom teeth of all men who still had them, then kept them awake for 24 hours out running about doing push up etc.


 She told DIL that had she known before he went in she would have had his dentist pull them a month early.

She also said she was told that until her son was 3/4 through training she should not make arrangements to visit the graduation as there was a large wash out of men that simply could not handle the training.

My son went ARMY and I have no idea how the Marines do things but could this possibly be true???

The VA pulled my wisdom teeth. I was back in the world though and discharged from active duty. I went to the  VA Hospital for a different thing and they yanked out my wisdom teeth.

[thundley4]

Wisdom teeth do get pulled but it is usually a mandatory 1-2 days SIQ (sick in quarters) and another day or so of light duty.
If you get set back then your graduation date is moved as well. The recruit could have failed tests and needs remediation.
The 24 hours thing is called The Crucible and it is meant to add stress and to push the recruits. Not as bad as you would think. The navy does battle stations where you are up for 24 hours as well. Pretty much the final exam. But that is at the end.
Now she could have been talking about in processing. You are kept up for a while while paperwork and the like are filled out but no recruit can be made to do any kind of PT until medically cleared and that usually takes a few days at least.

In boot camp at Great Lakes we had one hell of a workout after passing through the final medical quals.  As for the wisdom teeth, they didn't pull mine, I still have them. I've never had any problems from them.

[AprilRazz]

In boot camp at Great Lakes we had one hell of a workout after passing through the final medical quals.  As for the wisdom teeth, they didn't pull mine, I still have them. I've never had any problems from them.

Went trough there as well. It was to work the shots in so you wouldn't be sore from them.

[JohnnyReb]

Story goes that when her son showed up for Basic, the very next day they pulled the wisdom teeth of all men who still had them, then kept them awake for 24 hours out running about doing push up etc.

The way it was 46 years ago, they pulled bad teeth that couldn't be saved and you went right back to training....they kept us up all night the first night, a couple hours sleep the next 2 nights and then things settled down.
 
 She told DIL that had she known before he went in she would have had his dentist pull them a month early.

I got my teeth fixed before I went in....I'm a baby when you mess with my teeth.

She also said she was told that until her son was 3/4 through training she should not make arrangements to visit the graduation as there was a large wash out of men that simply could not handle the training.

That's true to a certain extent....things happen and one can be set back...most do all they can to prevent that.

My son went ARMY and I have no idea how the Marines do things but could this possibly be true???

Yes but the wisdom teeth bit sounds a little hard to believe.

Thank goodness they didn't have the crucible when I went thru basic. That sounds like 54 hours of hell.

[JohnnyReb]

Went trough there as well. It was to work the shots in so you wouldn't be sore from them.

Military shots...

At Parris Island when we went for shots they had a set of parallel bars with us lined up to go thru them. Two Corpsmen, one on each side, shot you in the butt at the same time with a needle. Then you stepped up one step and two more Corpsmen shot you with the hydraulic guns at the same time.

Well the guy in front of the guy in front of me flinched when they shot him with the hydraulic gun and it tore some meat out of his arm. He had some blood run down and drip off his elbow and the guy in front of me passed out. They just bent over and shot him lying on the deck and the rest of us step over him until he came too....

When we went for dental records and to get our teeth fixed I tried to tell them I didn't need any dental work done... ...they deadened half my mouth anyway. ...so dead my eyelid on that side was drooping... When the dentist got to me he said, "Get the hell outta my chair. You don't need anything." Went back the next week for the other side and came out with another drooping eyelid.... ....the military has their own way of doing things.

[thundley4]

Went trough there as well. It was to work the shots in so you wouldn't be sore from them.

I remember the assembly line of shots where you got needled in both arms with the final one being a massive dose of penicillin or something in the butt cheek.  That one was commonly referred to as "the square needle in the left nut".  

[NHSparky]

Went trough there as well. It was to work the shots in so you wouldn't be sore from them.

Ah, yes--the dreaded "bicillin shot".  Rusty square jagged needle which goes into the left nut.

Although they did make us do a shitload of situps after we got them.

And as for wisdom teeth, they were identified in boot camp--sub volunteer, nuke, but they didn't get pulled until just before my SECOND Westpac, 3 YEARS later.  Ah, the wonderful world of dry/infected sockets when you're in 12/12 shiftwork.  2 days SIQ each side.  My roomie was nice enough to stop at Beeman's and pick me up a bowl of saimin noodles when he came back each day.

[AprilRazz]

I remember the assembly line of shots where you got needled in both arms with the final one being a massive dose of penicillin or something in the butt cheek.  That one was commonly referred to as "the square needle in the left nut". 

I was the horrible person that gave those shots. But I got out of the bad one due to a penicillin allergy. We used to call them the peanut butter in the a@# shot.

[terry]

tabasco  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Dec-04-10 04:11 PM
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48. Rear echelon troops who never went off post
   
love to brag about how many Iraqis (or whoever) they killed.

Just an FYI.

pinboy3niner  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Dec-04-10 04:42 PM
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52. And grunts who saw real combat...
   
...typically are reticent about it--and offended if they are asked, "Did you kill anybody?"

Years ago, I ran into a Desert Storm vet who told me, proudly, "I got four confirmed kills." Then he asked me how many confirmed kills I had in Vietnam. I was still reeling from his boasting about how many 'kills' he had.

In VN, I only remember the term 'confirmed kills' being associated with snipers. For the regular grunts, there is no official determination of your 'kills' and no such category in your personnel records.

In fact, most of our combat was small firefights, and when they were over, we proceeded on our mission. We didn't deviate from our route to inspect the enemy position (from which they always carried off their dead and wounded) or to follow blood trails (which was almost always an invitation to an ambush). And few in my platoon would have wanted to count personal 'kills.'

My conclusion at the time was that my acquaintance with the "four confirmed kills" was a phony, someone who had never really seen combat.

tabasco  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Dec-04-10 08:39 PM
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66. Sounds like a liar.
   
I was a grunt for several years and in combat in Somalia.

The only time I ever heard the term "confirmed kill" was for snipers, and maybe tanks on other tanks.

 This incident really happened but the guy in the story is the liar, not the guy telling the story. Sure that's the ticket.