primitives discuss death threats re: college football

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x166458

Oh my.

The "back story" on this is that Big 12 referees have apparently--please notice the all-important word here, "apparently," which is not the same thing as "definitely"--exhibited a really big bias against Nebraska in its games in the Big 12 conference this year.

There's some jealousy because Nebraska's going to the Big 10 next year.

franksolich himself doesn't like it, but whatever.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, the Omaha World-Herald ran a big expose, showing that Nebraska this past season was penalized 10x as much as other Big 12 teams it played, and that such extreme bias let Texas A & M beat Nebraska in a close one, 9-6.

Whatever.

proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 02:37 AM
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Death threats against Big 12 commissioner from Nebraska fans
   
LINCOLN, Neb. | A trophy presentation typically accompanies a conference or division championship in the Big 12, but there was no such ceremony Friday after Nebraska’s 45-17 victory over Colorado that clinched the North Division.

After a week of receiving threatening messages, including death threats, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe didn’t want a member of his staff attending the game.

“The decision was to be safe,” Beebe said. “It probably wasn’t a good idea to be there.”

Beebe said he has received more than 2,000 “vulgar and nasty” e-mails and voice-mail messages from Nebraska fans who have been upset at what they’ve perceived as unfair decisions by the conference office with a suspension and officiating decisions against the Cornhuskers.

Some of the messages have included threats to Beebe, his family and Big 12 staff members.

“I’m a big boy, I can take this, but our staff doesn’t deserve the vulgarity and the nastiness aimed at them,” Beebe said.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/26/2474597/threats-pu...

DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-27-10 05:08 AM
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1. there is no bigger Husker fan around, but - it's just a game
   
some of my fellow Husker fans need to get a grip

mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-27-10 06:54 AM
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2. If you think this is bad, wait until Nebraska loses to Minnesota!
   
That would really send those fans into a tailspin.

Nebraska's going to have only one worthy rival in the Big 10, and it ain't gonna be Minnesota.

MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 09:46 AM
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3. That will not happen. Ever.
   
I live in St. Paul, but am a devoted Husker fan. There is no chance that Minnesota will beat Nebraska. Not next year. Not ever. The Golden Goofers, bless their hearts, are simply not up to the task.

The anti-osteopathic primitive a Cornhusker fan?

Who wudda thunk?

The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 09:49 AM
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4. OSU though, is another story

MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 10:55 AM
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7. Yah, that's true enough.
   
It'll be a different world for the Huskers in the Big 10, for sure. The good in it for me is that I'll be able to see a game when they're here to play the Golden Goophers. I went to their game with UC Berkeley a few years ago, but haven't attended a game since.

Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 05:59 PM
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11. We hung out our Halloween colored Aggie banner.
   
To let the Texas Aggies know there are other aggies in the state to the north. And there's the big game tonight.

Usually OU stomps OSU but this year it looks good for OSU.

DH is an OSU graduate (BS Physics, '68).

I found out the definition of a "mixed marriage" in Oklahoma: One spouse went to OU, the other to OSU.

The last time we were in a bookstore in Stillwater I saw a textbook on "Small Animal Surgery". Maybe I should have gotten it for when DH gets sick.

Oklahoma State ain't shit compared with the pure class of Oklahoma.

KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 09:51 AM
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5. There was ONE reason Nebraska left.....
   
They were 2-9 against Texas. And Osborne hated it.

Bo Pelini is an ass also. Not sad they are leaving.

I dunno.  I think Nebraska left for other reasons.

And contrary to what the Jayhawk primitive says, Kansas is very sad Nebraska's departing for the Big 10.

A primitive expressing a viewpoint the primitive thinks is the majority viewpoint, but as usual it's not.

proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 10:34 AM
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6. I went to school in Nebraska for 2 years
   
The people are incredibly kind and generous. But insanely fanatical about this football team. It's all they have. No pro sports and no other viable college teams. Just this one football team.

There was a house on a boulevard that was a major thoroughfare with a huge neon sign in the yard GO BIG RED.

I was in Omaha a few weeks ago for the weekend. Went to the zoo - it's awesome. Anyhow, first story on the 10:00 news Sat night was about the Nebraska game that day. 10 minutes of coverage. Then they told us about a murder and a fatal car wreck. Pretty different priority from our local news here.

And no, I'm not sorry to see them leave the Big 12 either.

DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-27-10 11:07 AM
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8. nor are most of us Husker fans sorry to be leaving

KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 04:56 PM
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9. I understand, Texas always beat you.

DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-27-10 05:51 PM
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10. happen to see this?
   
http://www.cornnation.com/2010/11/26/1837876/nebraska-b...

KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 06:41 PM
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12. Whats that have to do with being 2-9 against Texas?

DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-27-10 07:05 PM
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13. just asked if you had seen it yet . . . . representing your half of the conference, you know

KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 07:56 PM
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14. They even managed to lose to Austin Junior College this year!

rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sun Nov-28-10 01:06 AM
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16. When I was very young, my father and I watched an interview with a college football coach in one of those REALLY gung-ho college towns. The coach called a play that didn't work and cost him the game. He says he got a lot of hateful phone calls and letters, which he didn't really mind, but there was one exception. He received a letter that was addressed to "That !*%&$*$ Jackass", and the coach's name. Yet the post office knew exactly where to send it!

[Odin's Hand]

Any real fan of the Big 12 is pissed that Nebraska is leaving the conference. They are the only traditionally quality program in the Big 12 North. I'd trade both Iowa St. and Missouri to keep Nebraska in the conference, anyday.

[Vagabond]

What is the Big 12 doing to offset the loss of Nebraska?  I really haven't paid attention to it.  I'm a Florida State fan.

[Ralph Wiggum]

What is the Big 12 doing to offset the loss of Nebraska?  I really haven't paid attention to it.  I'm a Florida State fan.

Absolutely nothing.  They're sticking with 10 teams (they lost Colorado to the Pac-10 also).

[Ralph Wiggum]

MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Nov-27-10 09:46 AM
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3. That will not happen. Ever.
  
I live in St. Paul, but am a devoted Husker fan. There is no chance that Minnesota will beat Nebraska. Not next year. Not ever. The Golden Goofers, bless their hearts, are simply not up to the task.

Hmmm, I seem to recall a Minnesota team that beat a formerly Top-10 Iowa team just this past weekend.

To paraphrase Frank, the DUmmies know excrescence about sports.

[franksolich]

Absolutely nothing.  They're sticking with 10 teams (they lost Colorado to the Pac-10 also).

Actually, I speculate that Colorado leaving the Big 12 tilted Nebraska to leaving the Big 12, too.

Not that there's any respect for Colorado in Nebraska, and as God knows, we were happy to get rid of them (I always thought when the Big 12 was formed, Colorado should have been kicked out, and Arkansas invited in)--but just that after the first team leaves, it's easier for the second to take off.

Remember that originally the Big 10 was considering inviting Missouri, not Nebraska.

I didn't like it--our place is with teams from the spinal column of America--but as there's not a damned thing I could do about it, well.....

I still think Nebraska should've demanded a higher price for joining the Big 10--to wit, the expulsion of Penn State from that conference.  Penn State's just another Colorado.

[USA4ME]

My guess is the Big 12 will pick up 2 other Texas teams in the next year or two.  So they're slowly going back to being the old Southwest Conference plus OU, OSU, KU, KSU, Mizzou, & Iowa State.

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[Ralph Wiggum]

My guess is the Big 12 will pick up 2 other Texas teams in the next year or two.  So they're slowly going back to being the old Southwest Conference plus OU, OSU, KU, KSU, Mizzou, & Iowa State.

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Because of Texas' objection, TCU was not invited to join.  I don't think they'll add Houston, SMU or Rice.  Unless they feel the need for more bottom-feeder types.

I can see the Big 12 breaking up within 5 years, with A&M off to the SEC, OU/OSU/Texas/Texas Tech to Pac-12, Kansas/KSU/Mizzou/ISU/Baylor to Conference USA or the Big East.

Just my thoughts.

[Odin's Hand]

Because of Texas' objection, TCU was not invited to join.  I don't think they'll add Houston, SMU or Rice.  Unless they feel the need for more bottom-feeder types.

I can see the Big 12 breaking up within 5 years, with A&M off to the SEC, OU/OSU/Texas/Texas Tech to Pac-12, Kansas/KSU/Mizzou/ISU/Baylor to Conference USA or the Big East.

Just my thoughts.

There is speculation that Texas is just waiting to leave right after they have their in-house media network fully assembled.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Ironically, Frank, if anything the idea that the Nebraska fans are willing to make death threats over this just tends to make it look more likely that the Huskers get more penalties solely because they play dirtier.

 

[USA4ME]

Because of Texas' objection, TCU was not invited to join.  I don't think they'll add Houston, SMU or Rice.  Unless they feel the need for more bottom-feeder types.

I can see the Big 12 breaking up within 5 years, with A&M off to the SEC, OU/OSU/Texas/Texas Tech to Pac-12, Kansas/KSU/Mizzou/ISU/Baylor to Conference USA or the Big East.

Just my thoughts.

And you could very well be right.  I've just heard a lot of Texans I know lately (and for a few years, in fact) who want the old SW Conference to be revived, so I'm just thinking that they might consider it.

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[franksolich]

Ironically, Frank, if anything the idea that the Nebraska fans are willing to make death threats over this just tends to make it look more likely that the Huskers get more penalties solely because they play dirtier.

 

Well, I dunno, sir.

I myself haven't seen any Nebraska football games this year.

But the penalties appear to have been w-a-a-a-a-y lopsided.

Remember, Nebraska even got a penalty for an infraction committed by Texas A & M in that close game.

Among other things.

I have the attitude of the late Bob Devaney after a loss to Missouri in the early 1960s--that penalties and bad officiating never, really, cost a team a game.

Of course, Bob wasn't around to see the game against Penn State in 1982; he might have amended that comment if he had been.

But generally overall there's something fishy about the way the penalties this year have been way lopsided.

[franksolich]

This by the way was the article in the Omaha World-Herald:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20101123/BIGRED/311239928

Long article.

Penalties raise Big Red flags

LINCOLN — Sixteen penalties.

One hundred forty-five yards assessed against Nebraska.

Both school records.

And two penalties called on the opponent? In a 9-6 game where every call counts?

As the Big 12 office has remained silent on the officiating in Nebraska's loss Saturday at Texas A&M, rabid Husker football fans have wasted little time combing through statistics from this season's Nebraska football games, searching for officiating trends against the Huskers. It doesn't take long to come up with information like this:

.....after which multitudes of examples of biased officiating

To be blunt, the Big 12's just sore because Nebraska's leaving.

Well, franksolich didn't want Nebraska to leave either, but excresence happens.

[Ptarmigan]

My guess is the Big 12 will pick up 2 other Texas teams in the next year or two.  So they're slowly going back to being the old Southwest Conference plus OU, OSU, KU, KSU, Mizzou, & Iowa State.

.

I think that will be the case.

[Airwolf]

Ironically, Frank, if anything the idea that the Nebraska fans are willing to make death threats over this just tends to make it look more likely that the Huskers get more penalties solely because they play dirtier.

 

I'd say that is shows a total lack of class of the kind Frank was talking about in the other thread. Sorry but anyone stupd enough to take any sport so seriously as to threaten the life of a player or officail needs some serious therapy and I hate to say this as well but as ofthe past 10 to 15 years some of Nebraskas players needed to get some themselves or should never have been recruited. One would think that after that debacle with Lawernce Phillips that Nebraska would do everything they can to avoid another episode like Phillips had while at NU. So far nothing thatserious has happened but last year Suh was close to getting a DUI and this year a player was caught drinking under age and should have been suspended by Pelini for at least one game.