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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #75 on: November 11, 2010, 03:51:40 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on November 11, 2010, 01:24:29 AM
http://sciencedude.ocregister.com/2010/11/09/west-coast-missile-launch-a-mystery/114640/

They never said there was "nothing there"...there was "nothing out of the ordinary".

As E.C., I grew up outside of an Air Force Base and not too far from Dallas Love Field, then I joined the Navy to work on airplanes. I've seen contrails all of my life. I still don't believe that was from an aircraft. I'm going to have to pretend I'm from Missouri and they're gonna have to SHOW ME , MFers!!
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #76 on: November 11, 2010, 06:24:03 AM »
Quote from: ColonialMarine0431 on November 10, 2010, 04:16:43 PM
I still say it was George "Dr. Evil" Soros lauching his Laser Satellite from his underwater lair. He's planning on lasering FOXNews HQ and Glenn Beck for exposing him.



Nah, it is just as we have expected for 50 years, there is a God [zilla] and he is headed for Tokyo's sushi bars.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #77 on: November 11, 2010, 08:22:30 AM »
The FAA should have confirmed that flight 808 within in moments of reviewing the radar tapes instead of saying "nothing unusual on radar".  Guess that's what bugs me, the gov's too busy telling us what it isn't.



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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #78 on: November 11, 2010, 08:31:59 AM »
Saw this over at Hot Air and pretty much sums up why this has become a story....

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It’s lots of fun to make fun of conspiracy freaks but…

It’s the reaction of the Feds that have made people uneasy – Here’s the time line:

1. We don’t know what it is, but it’s not a threat.
2. Maybe it’s a “private enthusiast”
3. Hey, we’re going to go ahead and restrict air traffic the next day – even though nothing is going on.
4. Okay – we don’t know what it is, so maybe it is a threat.
5. We’re going to go ahead and take inventory of all of our missiles.
6. What? A blogger said that it’s a plane? He has pictures?
7. It’s a plane.

Gosh, I can’t imagine why no one believes them.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #79 on: November 11, 2010, 08:35:02 AM »
Quote from: seabelle on November 11, 2010, 08:31:59 AM
Saw this over at Hot Air and pretty much sums up why this has become a story....


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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2010, 11:57:17 PM »
I heard on the radio news update today that a similar thing happened on the east coast yesterday.  There was a similar sighting of a "missile" being launched over the Atlantic ocean.  Did anyone else hear the same thing?  It seems pretty hush-hush.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2010, 11:43:11 PM »
So....... it appears that our Government is LYING to us.....

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I hate to be the chronic cynic, but seriously, an airplane?? Nope. I've been around airplanes the majority of my life. I ain't buying the "airplane" explanation.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #83 on: November 14, 2010, 12:41:33 AM »
And I've been around submarines.  If COMSUBPAC says all their missiles are accounted for, well...
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #84 on: November 14, 2010, 01:02:14 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on November 14, 2010, 12:41:33 AM
And I've been around submarines.  If COMSUBPAC says all their missiles are accounted for, well...

Believe me, I know about weapons accountability. That's about all I can say about that.  Doesn't mean it didn't come from some other nation's sources.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #85 on: November 14, 2010, 01:08:01 AM »
Quote from: Thor on November 14, 2010, 01:02:14 AM
Believe me, I know about weapons accountability. That's about all I can say about that.  Doesn't mean it didn't come from some other nation's sources.

Same here, but methinks the good General needs to be able to at least back up his claims or STFU.  If he knows something but revealing it would also reveal classified information, he knows better than that--or SHOULD.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #86 on: November 14, 2010, 09:06:05 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on November 14, 2010, 01:08:01 AM
Same here, but methinks the good General needs to be able to at least back up his claims or STFU.  If he knows something but revealing it would also reveal classified information, he knows better than that--or SHOULD.

C'mon, guys. You know as well as I do that these folks are paid to speculate and to pontificate. Nothing more, nothing less. When this particular news item has run its course (I would've thought it did so 3-4 days ago, but apparently not), they'll find something else to pontificate about....

...whether or not they actually know anything about the subject matter at hand.

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #87 on: November 15, 2010, 06:02:01 PM »
Did the media just let this drop over the weekend?  I never heard any final answer on what it was. Did I miss it?
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #88 on: November 15, 2010, 07:25:33 PM »
How plausible is this theory?

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.

http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen-china-fired-missile-seen-in-southern-california/
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2010, 07:49:22 PM »
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How plausible is this theory?

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.

http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen-china-fired-missile-seen-in-southern-california/

Plausible, BUT, Catalina Island & the other islands around there should be covered by the 200 mile limit. So, I don't think that it would be in "International waters"....
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2010, 06:18:45 AM »
Quote from: Thor on November 15, 2010, 07:49:22 PM
Plausible, BUT, Catalina Island & the other islands around there should be covered by the 200 mile limit. So, I don't think that it would be in "International waters"....

If this story is accurate why would China even CARE if they were in international waters?  I'm not convinced with any story, just seems a stinking shame that we've been given room by our own government to wonder at OUR capabilities. Or lack of.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2010, 02:58:09 PM »
Might as well have been Captain Ramius and the Red October conducting missile drills off the coast while his crew listens to our rock and roll.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2010, 04:01:04 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 15, 2010, 07:49:22 PM
Plausible, BUT, Catalina Island & the other islands around there should be covered by the 200 mile limit. So, I don't think that it would be in "International waters"....

Actually it's 12 miles from the coast then International waters.  The 200 mile EEC (Econominc Exclusive Zone) does not ban warships, freight....etc.  It bans fishing, minerals...etc  .

I have delt a lot with the EEC here for fishing regulations.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2010, 08:21:27 PM »
That was EEZ
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2010, 12:19:01 AM »
and there's more:

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Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010 2:00 am | Updated: 8:13 am, Sun Nov 21, 2010.

L.A. contrail a missile launch? Retired general thinks so By JIM CASH Daily Inter Lake

Sliding silently under the mud, muck and fog of national politics, is a current event that makes Bill Clinton’s excursion into the world of elderly sex look tame in comparison. This time the nation’s national security is truly threatened in my opinion, and it involves not only a weak president with limited problem-solving ability, but leadership at the highest levels in the Pentagon as well. The American people would do well to demand a full investigation by an unbiased group, and let the chips fall where they may.

I am referring to the “missile shot” taken off the California coast recently, and the lame response by NORAD, the Pentagon and the White House itself.

First, in hope of adding some credibility to my assessment of what really happened just off the coast of Los Angeles let me convey a bit of my background which can be checked easily by going to Google and typing in my name. An Air Force biography will appear....

...Based on such, I understand very well the difference between an aircraft contrail and a missile launch contrail.

In my opinion, there is absolutely no doubt that what was captured on video off the coast of California was a missile launch, was clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star general within minutes, and passed to the president immediately. That is the way the system works, and heads fall if there is a failure. This is one of the most important tenets of national defense and its sole purpose of protecting the American people. Even the smallest failure in this system gets intense scrutiny at the highest level.


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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2010, 10:17:16 AM »
Nothing to see hear people....move along now!

When they have to call you crazy....you may well be right! The Chinese are showing us just how vulernable we are....hink of the panic if that ever got acknowledge in any substasive way! Most people will buy into the "jet contrail" theory just because they don't want to believe it was China!
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2010, 10:19:20 AM »
Quote from: ToddWB on November 22, 2010, 10:17:16 AM
Nothing to see hear people....move along now!

When they have to call you crazy....you may well be right! The Chinese are showing us just how vulernable we are....hink of the panic if that ever got acknowledge in any substasive way! Most people will buy into the "jet contrail" theory just because they don't want to believe it was China!

this kind of shit is starting to sound like Truthers.....
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2010, 10:43:13 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on November 22, 2010, 10:19:20 AM
this kind of shit is starting to sound like Truthers.....

Except for the fact that no believable alternative has been given by authorities.  Has any of the military or the Pentagon given a final statement?
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2010, 10:53:49 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 22, 2010, 10:43:13 AM
Except for the fact that no believable alternative has been given by authorities.  Has any of the military or the Pentagon given a final statement?

Not sure if the government truly deals with things like "final statements". Those things generally pin down people and their conclusions and actually hold them accountable - and you know as well as I do that senior people in government don't want to be held accountable for much at all.

Bottom line is, the government has lied to the people before and will continue to lie. Whether it's a rocket contrail or jet contrail or a mixture of the two, it's doubtful we'll ever get the real story, especially as time passes.

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch off of California Coast
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2010, 10:58:37 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 22, 2010, 10:43:13 AM
Except for the fact that no believable alternative has been given by authorities.  Has any of the military or the Pentagon given a final statement?

Is one really necessary?  Seriously, this is getting into conspiracy theory territory.  Unless and until, folks.
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