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Offline thundley4

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DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« on: November 06, 2010, 09:36:31 PM »
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BlueCheese (363 posts)           Sat Nov-06-10 05:57 PM
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41% of US children born to unwed mothers.
   
According to this AP article, 41% of kids born in the US in 2008 were born to unmarried mothers.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/1...

Is that number surprisingly high--almost astonishingly high-- to anyone else? Do you think that's a reasonable figure, or something unhealthy for the kids and for our society?

Perhaps I'm naive, but I would have thought that the overall rate would have been around 20% at most.

The article is mostly about the struggles of black mothers and black children, of whom 72% are born to unmarried mothers. The numbers are apparently 53% of Hispanics, 29% of whites, and 17% of Asians.

Is this something that needs to be addressed (it seems so to me), and if so, what can be done about it?
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treestar   (1000+ posts)             Sat Nov-06-10 05:59 PM
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1. Don't see how it matters.
   
It's individual choice. Nothing can be legislated about it without infringing on basic freedoms.

It's a conservative position that it is directly responsible for the ills of society. Yet there may not be much support for that other than conservatives' prejudices.

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stray cat (1000+ posts)         Sat Nov-06-10 06:01 PM
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6. kids dropping out of school unable to read and write are probably a bigger problem
   
but both can contribute to joblessness, lack of education and poverty

Yanow what DUmmie?  A high majority of those dropouts come from single parent homes.

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seabeyond   (1000+ posts)             Sat Nov-06-10 06:11 PM
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18. no, two parent family is not a conservative position. nt

Maybe not, but a two parent hetero family is.

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Blue_Tires   (1000+ posts)             Sat Nov-06-10 06:30 PM
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40. at the bare minimum there could be harsher penalties for irresponsible parents
   
including fathers who have several kids by different women while offering nothing in support...
:racist:

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stray cat (1000+ posts)         Sat Nov-06-10 05:59 PM
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2. some people are just not marrying but are together
   
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 06:00 PM by stray cat
but many single parents have serious cash problems

And they cause increased taxes on working families.

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ananda   (1000+ posts)           Sat Nov-06-10 06:00 PM
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4. Wow, that is high.
   
What does this say about the social fabric of America?

I think there's a close association between single mothers
and poverty.

Duh, ya think?  The social fabric of this country has been on the decline since the 60's when the liberal , do what feels good movement started. Welfare also aided greatly in the decline. It lead to less dependence on the family and greater dependence on the government.

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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 06:03:55 AM »
This is why monogamous, hetero marriage was instituted; because it's absence or variation was not as successful a social construct. One need not be a Christian to see this but one must shed their anti-Christian spite.

Destruction of the monogamous, hetero family will do more harm to society than the distribution of toys in half-portioned meals.
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 06:30:38 AM »
If you're unmarried and have a baby, the government will pay for it. If you are married or get married and have a baby...you owe for it.

Why get married?
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 08:24:04 AM »
This all goes back to LBJ's great society, they wanted to force Husband's out of the picture and the Government became the new Husband, they purposely wanted to destroy the black family for their own gains, and of course it spread outside of the black family, they probably think it's a bonus when it's actually a genocide of the American family.
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 11:58:20 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 07, 2010, 06:30:38 AM
If you're unmarried and have a baby, the government will pay for it. If you are married or get married and have a baby...you owe for it.

Why get married?

Well, I happen to love the woman I made the baby with . . . so that's why we got married . . . six years before The Heiress was born. 

ETA:  The reason was given for any lurking DUmb****s.  I know that y'all here feel pretty much the same way.
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 12:39:59 PM »
I thought all the DUmbasses knew that liberal policies are NEVER to be evaluated by their results.
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 03:50:53 PM »
I see the DUmmies have it all figured out with the school dropout rate and the amount of single parents out there. ::) :hammer:
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 06:31:33 AM »
Progressive ideas fail only because they are always (1)underfunded and a few government employees short of what is required to make them a (2)success.

(1)underfunded: You have $2 left in your pocket.
(2)success: The ability to suck excess dimes from the taxpayers.
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Re: DUmmies ignore the failures of progressivism.
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 05:21:12 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 08, 2010, 06:31:33 AM
Progressive ideas fail only because they are always (1)underfunded and a few government employees short of what is required to make them a (2)success.

(1)underfunded: You have $2 left in your pocket.
(2)success: The ability to suck excess dimes from the taxpayers.
Very good explanation Chris. :cheersmate:
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