primitives find the South a tough nut to crack

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9338207

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BrentWil (894 posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 07:57 PM
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Why is the South more conservative?

Why is it so tough to make in roads into the southeast and win elections? Why is the south such a tough nut to crack for progressive ideas?

ThePhilosopher04 (399 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:01 PM
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1. Because an overwhelming majority...

of conservatives in the south, and around the rest of the country for that matter, are racist as hell...if black folk were conservative and voted Republican, most of them would be liberal...and the one's who aren't racist have an average IQ of below 80 more than likely.

Gman  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:02 PM
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2. The South is traditionally very rural, an agrarian society with little or minimal education. Rare exposure to new ideas and if the ideas conflicted with the Protestant interpretations of the Bible, they were rejected out of hand. Plus, slavery as an institution.

whyverne  (639 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:03 PM
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3. That's where the Tories went after the Revolutionary War. 

They really don't like this country, they want their king back.

Cleanelec (85 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:05 PM
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4. Nothing like watching a bunch of IDIOTS replying with nothing but tired old BIGOTED stereotypes of the South.

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:09 PM
THE ANTI-OSTEOPATHIC PRIMITIVE
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6. No, actually it's from looking at their congress members and other elected officials. Voting Republican is not progressive. That's not a stereotype. It is reality, right now.

Cleanelec (85 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:11 PM
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8. So what's the excuse

....when Northern states elect a Republican?

Uneducated Northern bastards.

MindandSoul (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:12 PM
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Well, I don't see YOU giving a plausible answer. . .Only criticism!

Cleanelec (85 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:13 PM
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10. Criticism of bigoted stereotypes?

Yes, sir. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:07 PM
THE ANTI-OSTEOPATHIC PRIMITIVE
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5. It's the kudzu, I'm pretty sure.

Or something...

MindandSoul (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:10 PM
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7. Because there are less educated people and more poverty, so less empowerment among the general population.

Edweird (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:12 PM
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9. I detect a pattern in your choice of topics.

BrentWil (894 posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:15 PM
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11. What?

Topics that are interesting and get a discussion going?

Upton  (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:16 PM
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12. Cuz it's full of rednecks?

[true_blood]

MindandSoul (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:10 PM
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7. Because there are less educated people and more poverty, so less empowerment among the general population.

Yeah, that must be it! Please tell me more.
Is that why Texas is doing EXTREMELY well in this recession that the imposter has put us deeper into?

[CactusCarlos]

Is that why Texas is doing EXTREMELY well in this recession that the imposter has put us deeper into?

And why bastions of liberalism like California and Detroit are prospering!

[ColonialMarine0431]

MindandSoul (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:10 PM
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7. Because there are less educated people and more poverty, so less empowerment among the general population.

Yeah right. Must be why I have 2 college degrees and am a member of Mensa. And my family has millions. Yep. We's all southerners be dumb and lives in trailer parks. And we's all be inbred too!

I guarantee that my family has more professionals and college graduates and wealthy people than this pinhead.

[Celtic Rose]

MindandSoul (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:10 PM
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7. Because there are less educated people and more poverty, so less empowerment among the general population.

African Americans are the least educated segment of American society with the lowest graduation rates.  Also, they have some of the highest poverty rates.  They vote overwhelmingly Democrat.  Mind explaining how that works with your theory there?

[CactusCarlos]

African Americans are the least educated segment of American society with the lowest graduation rates.  Also, they have some of the highest poverty rates.  They vote overwhelmingly Democrat.  Mind explaining how that works with your theory there?

H5!

[JohnnyReb]

whyverne  (639 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:03 PM
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3. That's where the Tories went after the Revolutionary War. 

They really don't like this country, they want their king back.

I live in S.C. and know for a fact that the Tories that weren't killed fled north after the revolution. As a matter of fact, a large group left this area for Canada which opened up land of which my ancestors took control.

[diesel driver]

Upton  (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:16 PM
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12. Cuz it's full of rednecks?

Damn, he figured it out.

Of course, it's because of all the rednecks, we have a hunting season for liberals down here.  No limit, no restrictions.

Have to thin out the herd, donchaknow!  Damned liberals breed faster than the deer down here.

[whiffleball]

Because we still hold true to a moral code and values.  Because we don't forget the sacrifices we and others have made and continue to make for our country.  Because we regard dignity and personal responsibility to be positive traits.

I'm Southern by birth and by the Grace of God.  I've never wanted to be from anywhere else.

[JohnnyReb]

Damn, he figured it out.

Of course, it's because of all the rednecks, we have a hunting season for liberals down here.  No limit, no restrictions.

Have to thin out the herd, donchaknow!  Damned liberals breed faster than the deer down here.

I say they're more like rats.....the cold weather, high taxes and high energy costs they've caused up north have driven them to seek out a warmer place....just like rats/mice in the fall of the year. Now they come down here and want to put their little "pills"(droppings) into everything.

[JohnnyReb]

I'm Southern by birth and by the Grace of God.  I've never wanted to be from anywhere else.

There used to be some bumperstickers like that.....

       AMERICAN BY BRITH
SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD

[VelvetElvis]

Damn, he figured it out.

Of course, it's because of all the rednecks, we have a hunting season for liberals down here.  No limit, no restrictions.

Have to thin out the herd, donchaknow!  Damned liberals breed faster than the deer down here.

While I have no doubt you are an effective liberal hunter, there's really no need to thin them out due to their fertility . 
While they may breed like rabbits, they have the odd propensity for killing their own offspring.

[JohnnyReb]

While I have no doubt you are an effective liberal hunter, there's really no need to thin them out due to their fertility . 
While they may breed like rabbits, they have the odd propensity for killing their own offspring.

You have a point....and like those other rodents, squirrels, they will, at times, castrate the males.

[USA4ME]

BrentWil

Why is the south such a tough nut to crack for progressive ideas?

Because we don't need a nanny state to tell us how to live.

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[whiffleball]

There used to be some bumperstickers like that.....

       AMERICAN BY BRITH
SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD

You're right and I had forgotten how it went.  Anyway I say it, it's a perfect fit for me.

[blitzkrieg_17]

Because we don't need a nanny state to tell us how to live.

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H5. Plus, we're too smart to fall for liberal BS. (Maybe I shouldn't say "we" since I am not a native Southerner. But the point still stands.)

[Crazy Horse]

BrentWil (894 posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 07:57 PM
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Why is the South more conservative?

Why is it so tough to make in roads into the southeast and win elections? Why is the south such a tough nut to crack for progressive ideas?

Because y'all are dumbass liberals and we don't like ya.

whyverne  (639 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:03 PM
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3. That's where the Tories went after the Revolutionary War. 

They really don't like this country, they want their king back

 

Yeah,   those pesky facts getting in the way again

[Karin]

Because y'all are dumbass liberals and we don't like ya.

Which is simply why socialism doesn't work.  I should be expected to pay the way of people I despise?  Look at the Liz Cheney thread.  I work hard so these despicable leeches get a free ride?  On me?  I don't think so. 

Socialism only works in tightly knit families where they all love each other very much.  "I bring my talents to the table, you bring yours, and we'll go places, baby." 

[dandi]

BrentWil (894 posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 07:57 PM
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Why is the South more conservative?

Why is it so tough to make in roads into the southeast and win elections? Why is the south such a tough nut to crack for progressive ideas?

Because the people who originally populated the South were those looking to get the hell away from useless fools who wanted to tell them what to do all of their lives.  And any attempt to take away their liberty and property usually ends very badly for those who are the "takers".

A migration map of the populations that went to New England and those that went South will tell you who you're dealing with.  I recommend the migration maps from 'Seeds of Albion' for further information.

Well, that is if you can read, DUmbass...

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ThePhilosopher04 (399 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:01 PM
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1. Because an overwhelming majority...

of conservatives in the south, and around the rest of the country for that matter, are racist as hell...if black folk were conservative and voted Republican, most of them would be liberal...and the one's who aren't racist have an average IQ of below 80 more than likely.

From the forced busing riots in the Boston mecca of tolerance and diversity, 5 April 1976.

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Gman  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:02 PM
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2. The South is traditionally very rural, an agrarian society with little or minimal education. Rare exposure to new ideas and if the ideas conflicted with the Protestant interpretations of the Bible, they were rejected out of hand.

Really?  I bet these guys would have loved to have known that:

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whyverne  (639 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:03 PM
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3. That's where the Tories went after the Revolutionary War.

They really don't like this country, they want their king back.

Wrong, DUmbass.

When their cause was defeated, about 20% of the Loyalists fled or were driven out of the US to resettle in other parts of the British Empire, in Britain or elsewhere in British North America, especially East Ontario and New Brunswick, where they were called United Empire Loyalists; some went to the British West Indies, especially the Bahamas. Black Loyalists made up some of the Loyalist community but were compensated by British claims procedures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_%28American_Revolution%29

The only clowns begging for a "king" are the "****ing retarded" "professional left" (ie you), not the Southerners.  We don't need a nanny to take care of us.

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MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:09 PM
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6. No, actually it's from looking at their congress members and other elected officials. Voting Republican is not progressive. That's not a stereotype. It is reality, right now.

Ding-ding-ding!  Not porgressive!

You win, DUmbass...

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Cleanelec (85 posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:11 PM
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8. So what's the excuse

....when Northern states elect a Republican?

Uneducated Northern bastards.

I like to call it momentary lapses into clarity, but whatever works for you.

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MindandSoul (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 08:10 PM
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7. Because there are less educated people and more poverty, so less empowerment among the general population.

Unemployment rates for Southern States as of Aug 2010:
Alabama:  9.2
Arkansas:  7.5
Florida:  11.7
Georgia:  10.0
Kentucky:  10.0
Louisiana:  7.6
Mississippi:  10.0
Missouri:  9.3
North Carolina:  9.7
Oklahoma:  7.0
South Carolina:  11.0
Tennessee:  9.6
Texas:  8.3
Virginia:  7.0
West Virginia:  8.8

15 State average = 9.11%

Unemployment rates for New England and other deep blue shithole states:
California:  12.4
Connecticut:  9.1
District of Columbia:  9.9
Illinois:  10.1
Maine:  8.0
Massachusetts:  8.8
Michigan:  13.1
New Hampshire:  5.7
New Jersey:  9.6
New York:  8.3
Ohio:  10.1
Oregon:  10.6
Pennsylvania:  9.2
Rhode Island:  11.8
Vermont:  6.0

15 State average = 9.51%
 
http://data.bls.gov/map/servlet/map.servlet.MapToolServlet?survey=la

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Upton  (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-17-10 08:16 PM
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12. Cuz it's full of rednecks?

Translated:  "I know you are, but what am I?"

 

[soleil]

Southern bashing again? How so very original of DU. They just had some Christian bashing with the miraculous miner rescue. I guess next on the list will be a good ole cop bashing thread.

[IassaFTots]

Southern bashing again? How so very original of DU. They just had some Christian bashing with the miraculous miner rescue. I guess next on the list will be a good ole cop bashing thread.

Or Walmart Bashing.  Haven't seen a good one of those in a while. 

[Chris_]

Or Walmart Bashing.  Haven't seen a good one of those in a while. 

There was one yesterday.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,49915.0.html

[IassaFTots]

There was one yesterday.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,49915.0.html

Meh.  That one was boring.  I like the ones when they fight amongst themselves, personally.   

[Airwolf]

If I am not mistaken the South has had a Democratic majority for well over 100 years and it was only after Nixon that the South started to vote for Republican conservatives.

[JohnnyReb]

If I am not mistaken the South has had a Democratic majority for well over 100 years and it was only after Nixon that the South started to vote for Republican conservatives.

S.C. was one of, what, 5 states that went for Goldwater in '64. ...and maybe Ike in the 50's.

Even when voting for democrats, they were voting for "Southern Conservative Democrats" mostly.