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Well Mr Obama when you spread lies about it you can't be too shocked that people don't love it.

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USArmyParatrooper  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list       Fri Sep-24-10 04:24 PM
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President Obama: I fault myself for not being able to make the case more clearly
   
Despite what some might think I do have certain criticisms of President Obama. I do not believe he, or anybody is infallible. It just makes it difficult to discuss real criticisms when the rhetoric of a few goes way beyond the pale.

That being said, I've always felt the President could have done much more to make the case for the health care proposal. He did have some shining moments. Like when he caught a room full of Republicans off guard by offering a surprise Q&A session with him - by himself and laid the smack down on every single one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxi27Jy85I

Unfortunately he was late in the game for that one. I am glad and encouraged that President Obama has acknowledged he needs to involve himself in more open warfare and less behind the scenes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_health_overhaul


Obama faults himself for not selling health law


FALLS CHURCH, Va. – Blaming himself for coolness to his health care overhaul, President Barack Obama is seeking to reintroduce the law to voters who don't much like or understand it six months after he signed it.

The White House gathered patients from around the country who have benefited from the measure, and the president rolled up his sleeves to address them Wednesday in a sunny Virginia backyard, highlighting changes that take effect at the six-month mark on Thursday. These include a ban on lifetime coverage limits, as well as free coverage for preventive care and immunizations. Young adults will be able to stay on their parents' plans until they turn 26, and kids with pre-existing health conditions won't be denied coverage.

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"I thank you from the bottom of my heart," Norma Byrne of Vineland, N.J., told the president, explaining she was benefiting from the law's provisions that are closing a Medicare coverage gap for prescription drugs.

But such gratitude isn't the norm.

A new Associated Press poll finds high levels of misunderstanding about what's actually in the law, and more people opposed than in support. And with crucial midterm elections six weeks away, the only Democrats running ads about the historic legislation are the ones who voted "no."

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Obama ruefully told his listeners, "Sometimes I fault myself for not being able to make the case more clearly to the country."

Still, he took on Republicans who want to repeal the law, daring them to tell that to a cancer patient covered by a new high-risk pool, or a parent whose child was able to get insurance despite a pre-existing health condition.

"It makes sense in terms of politics and polls," Obama said of the GOP position. "It doesn't make sense in terms of actually making people's lives better."

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There remains much confusion about the law's provisions. More than a third of respondents wrongly think it contains panels of bureaucrats to make decisions about people's care — what critics labeled "death panels" — and 65 percent believe congressional budget analysts said it would increase the government's debt. In fact, budget analysts say it will reduce red ink.

The biggest changes in the legislation, such as the new purchasing pools and requirement for everyone to carry insurance, don't kick in until 2014. Among changes taking effect this week:

_Young adults can remain on family health plans until they turn 26.

_Free immunization provided for kids.

_Free preventive care provided, such as mammograms and cholesterol screenings.

_No more lifetime coverage limits, and annual limits start to phase out.

_Plans can't cancel coverage for people who get sick.

_No denial of coverage for kids with pre-existing health conditions.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9195424

On the plus side Obama is reminding people of this horrible bill they passed. This could help our side big time.

I also wanna say that when they say free this or free that it drives me insane. Nothing is free, we all will be paying for those free services. It's like when those morons on TV sy you can get free money from the Govt.

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Cha  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list       Fri Sep-24-10 04:27 PM
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1. Good for the President coming out with what he
   
feels on this..that's one of the best things I like about him..he admits his mistakes and learns from them.

The only mistakes he brings up are Bush's.

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5. He's actually very good at explaining things. He just needs to do it a LOTmore. (eom)

Yeah he lies pretty well.

The goons are eating this up. I guess they believe checkups and such really will be free until they get the bill from the insurance company raising premiums to pay for the freebies.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Cha  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list       Fri Sep-24-10 04:27 PM
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1. Good for the President coming out with what he
   
feels on this..that's one of the best things I like about him..he admits his mistakes and learns from them.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9195424

The op is pretty boring but some of the comments...priceless.

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Cha  (1000+ posts)        Fri Sep-24-10 04:27 PM
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1. Good for the President coming out with what he
   feels on this..that's one of the best things I like about him..he admits his mistakes and learns from them.

This is the same Obama we all know you are talking about?

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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts)       Fri Sep-24-10 04:43 PM
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4. I haven't seen the President learn from his mistakes at all.
   I look forward to seeing that happen though.
Freeper troll

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Cha  (1000+ posts)        Fri Sep-24-10 05:22 PM
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9. Plenty of us have and all my friends & family talk about it..so that means something
   to me.

I just really really really want to feeeeeeeeeeeeeeel good.

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gateley  (1000+ posts)        Fri Sep-24-10 04:34 PM
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2. I've often thought I'd like him to be able to present issues as clearly and concisely
   Edited on Fri Sep-24-10 04:35 PM by gateley
as Rachel seems to always do. Step by step. If I wasn't familiar with the topic he was addressing, I'm not sure I would get the point he was trying to deliver.

ETA -- I think most of those in politics, who live in that world, assume we're aware of things when in actuality so much of it isn't absorbed by the majority of Americans. We need to be educated along with the statements.

There are many that did that...they are known as "those that read the bill".

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USArmyParatrooper  (1000+ posts)        Fri Sep-24-10 04:45 PM
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5. He's actually very good at explaining things. He just needs to do it a LOTmore. (eom)
Why uhhhhm yes uhh he uhhm is very uhhhhhhm         good at uhhhhh speaking uh his uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm mind uh unscripted.

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gateley  (1000+ posts)        Fri Sep-24-10 04:55 PM
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7. Yes he is, I think he just doesn't have the time -- tries (and needs) to get a lot
   of info into a statement.

Good God you racist hater,he has a TEE time after all to deal with.

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craigmatic (685 posts)        Fri Sep-24-10 05:27 PM
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11. He's only telling the truth about what we already know. He's a very smart man
   but sometimes I wish he or some of the people around him had a little more emotional intelligence.

Sooooooooooo smart he hired only STUPID people or whatever the hell "emotional intelligence" is supposed to be.

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Edweird (1000+ posts)        Sat Sep-25-10 01:13 PM
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16. Actually Candidate Obama was clear and well recieved. The problem is the bait and switch.
   Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 01:14 PM by Edweird
That tends to be a bit off-putting especially with a literally life and death issue like this.

I doubt you know it but you hit the nail on ther head there.
He was a snake oil salesman on the campaign and is an incompetent socialist ideologue as President...the public has now seen.


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Beat me to it Freeps!  :cheersmate:

You know what they say about great minds thinking alike?

 Of course I am not sure about my mind being so great.  :lmao:

 :cheersmate:

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Oh....My...God.  :banghead:

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That hits the nail squarely on center.  Il Douche. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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That hits the nail squarely on center.  Il Douche. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



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Exactly, CM!  H5 given! :hi5:

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Cha  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)    Fri Sep-24-10 04:27 PM
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1. Good for the President coming out with what he
   
feels on this..that's one of the best things I like about him..he admits his mistakes and learns from them.

REALLLLLLY?!?!?!!? :whatever: ::) If that were the case, that imposter should step down because he hasn't done anything positive for the Country! :censored:

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The only way O could "make" his case for the healthcare law would be to go through all those "lies" the right told...and say, "Well, yes, yes, that one happens to be true...BUT..."  Then, after actually telling the truth for a few hours, maybe he could find something positive to say.  Of course, he'd still have to admit that there is no such thing as FREE anything.
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The only way O could "make" his case for the healthcare law would be to go through all those "lies" the right told...and say, "Well, yes, yes, that one happens to be true...BUT..."  Then, after actually telling the truth for a few hours, maybe he could find something positive to say.  Of course, he'd still have to admit that there is no such thing as FREE anything.

I think that his reasoning for this ("not being able to make the case more clearly") is a thinly-veiled desire to silence the opposition to the Health Care Deform.  Without them, this probably would have sailed through, instead of being the high-water mark of his failed presidency.
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The only way O could "make" his case for the healthcare law would be to go through all those "lies" the right told...and say, "Well, yes, yes, that one happens to be true...BUT...BUT...BUT...BUTT...BUTT have you seen MeShells BUTT lately."  Then, after actually telling us about her BUTT for a few hours, maybe he could find something positive to say.  Of course, he'd still have to admit that there is no such thing as FREE anything, especially MeShells BUTT.

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