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I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« on: September 18, 2010, 03:59:51 PM »
I love how the DUmmies never miss an opportunity to brag about how S-M-R-T they (and their progeny) are:
They are so S-M-R-T.


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underpants   (1000+ posts)             Fri Sep-17-10 08:41 PM
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I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
   

 
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nothing against the teacher or the school-considered a really good school

My kid is going back over ABC's and shapes. She mastered that 3 years ago, when she was TWO

We paid extra for Phonics training at daycare. All of the kids who did phonics classes were leaps ahead of the kids who didn't.

ABC's? She could spell and write and do math (multiplication) at 4. Not bragging but I thought that was the norm, I thought we were just staying up to speed. Hell I didn't get to get off the floor with her and watch a football game from a chair until she was 2 1/2.

We put her in a structured program (national daycare chain) with a curriculum and everything. Again- I just assumed that was what we supposed to do and that everyone else was doing likewise.

*sigh*

As much as my kid LOVES the TV I guess everyone else has parked the kid in front of theirs.
Now my kid has to go over the stuff she went past at least a year ago.


I call bullshit. Five year olds-even ones that do nothing but watch TV-know shapes, colors, numbers, and the alphabet.

Of course, the rest have to chime in:

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grace0418   (1000+ posts)             Fri Sep-17-10 09:23 PM
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28. I learned to read at 3 and much of grade school was really boring for me.
   
Kindergarten was fun because we just played and sang songs and colored. This was the 70s so I don't think they were even trying to get kids to read at that point. I knew how but I was just as happy to make art all day. But then when we got to first grade and I had to sit there and listen to them teaching things I'd known for years, it was a real drag. When I was in 4th grade, they start a program for the advanced kids, but it was just more homework, not more interesting subjects.

I was hoping things had changed since then.

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11. I know exactly what you mean
   
I started homeschooling my son after kindergarten, when he fell behind his younger sister in reading. He was going backwards, with just the dumbest homework that I had to make him do, and the 'books' they were reading with 5 words...he was so far advanced of that it was a crime to keep him held back in school. The only think he was getting was sick all the time and absurd behaviors. My kids still love learning, love free time and freedom the choose what and how they learn. They are reading very advanced novels now, writing their own novels, doing high school Algebra 2 in middle school and none of us have ever felt sorry about homeschooling.

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106. What happens when a child just enjoys learning? They look at and learn things just for fun? Then I'm
   
called the bad guy for "teaching" my kid way too much for his age... he's been 3 years beyond grade level since he was 4, things have not changed. He's 15 and in a different type of school that could cater to his needs & no we really can't afford it but we have no choice.... This is one child who believed free time meant learning....

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67. "Not bragging..."
   
Yeesh...

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alcibiades_mystery   (1000+ posts)             Sat Sep-18-10 09:36 AM
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78. Oh, people got why you put it there
   
It's just that it's cringe-inducing and dishonest and transparent and pathetic, but whatevs.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: I think this person my be my favorite DUmmy.  :rotf: :rotf:

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Odin2005   (1000+ posts)             Sat Sep-18-10 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #89 I got in trouble a lot because I would correct the teacher.
   
I thought I was being nice and kind, since if I were in that position I would want somebody pointing out a mistake, even if the person happens to be a 8yo kid. But teachers constantly took it as me humiliating them and "disrespecting their authority".

Of course you did.  :bs:

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140. Since we're "severely gifted" ourselves, we were motivated to look for the best
   
situation we can afford. So far, she's had absolutely wonderful teachers.

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 04:10:29 PM »
Blah blah blah, my 14 month old can say some letters and recognize them when they are on the television.  She is the SMARTEST baby in the world.

My daughter is in a "national chain" daycare center.  We do not have to pay extra for "phonics" classes, they teach her that stuff automatically.  

Maybe this chain they speak of wanted to nickle & dime this parent, so they started the "special phonics class" for her child... and other offspring's of libtards.
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 04:29:17 PM »
I'll bet they love it though when the Indoctrinators teach them to sing "MMM Mmmm Mmmm..Barak Hussein Obama"

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 04:35:18 PM »
Now the socialists have control over the medical system. Look for the average life spans to start nose diving like our kids test scores.
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 04:43:38 PM »
Blah blah blah, my 14 month old can say some letters and recognize them when they are on the television.  She is the SMARTEST baby in the world.

My daughter is in a "national chain" daycare center.  We do not have to pay extra for "phonics" classes, they teach her that stuff automatically.  

Maybe this chain they speak of wanted to nickle & dime this parent, so they started the "special phonics class" for her child... and other offspring's of libtards.

'Tween you me an the fence post, how do you suppose the dummies reconcile factory day care facilities with other corporate entities?  Or what about the additional stress put upon young children to achieve at an early age thus depriving them of a normal childhood.  Dummies only smat when they face palm their forehead, rarely ever else.

Another point of interest, have you seen an infomercial on a young kids learning CD program?  I caught some of the blather one day but since we have no young ones I didn't really pay a lot of attention.  Seems like it had kids reading whole words and sentences at a very young age long before kindergarten.

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 04:49:39 PM »
This asshole just wants to pretend his child is special!

For cryin' out loud, my kids could do this shit 30 years ago! Before the age of 'puters!

Nowadays, it's a given!

He's tryin' like hell to make believe his kid is better than everyone else! Amazing, ain't it? Sounds just like a DUmmie!
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 04:51:46 PM »
I was so smart the teachers asked me questions.
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 05:12:35 PM »

Another point of interest, have you seen an infomercial on a young kids learning CD program?  I caught some of the blather one day but since we have no young ones I didn't really pay a lot of attention.  Seems like it had kids reading whole words and sentences at a very young age long before kindergarten.


I've seen those commercials, and we did look into the system. However, I had some issues with it, one of them being that the program wants your child to watch the instructional DVD three times a day. For a toddler, that is asking a lot.

I also am not sure that it necessarily teaches reading comprehension. It seems to me (and I am not a reading specialist) that it teaches kids how to sight read, but not to understand what they are reading. There's a whole huge debate that rages in education about phonics vs whole language, and while I think early reading is terrific and wonderful, if the kids can't understand what they read then it's not really done them any good.

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2010, 05:45:20 PM »
How can I take someone with the username underpants seriously?
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2010, 05:52:05 PM »
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154. I know that many who think their children are 'gifted,' are not.
   
Was your child testd?

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2010, 05:53:02 PM »
Yet they all want more tax dollars funneled into the black hole of teacher union spending. :banghead:

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2010, 05:56:38 PM »
What a :lmao: thread:
 
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157. So then you're aware of the mythology
   
spread by the teacher's union?

He's a teen. He speaks six languages so far and has three years of college credits.

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159. Has he ever been tested? n/t

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162. Yes.
   
Although, everyone he's met since he was a toddler easily recognized that he was "different". Not better, just different and ravenous to learn. Testing told us nothing new.

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164. What type of test was it and who administerd the test? n/t

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168. So that you can pick apart whatever I say?
   
No thanks. I asked you what you knew about gifted children. Your reply said it all. Testing, testing, testing..... the only person that testing has any value for is the teacher who's got a classroom full of kids they don't have time to know. All studies have shown that parents and care givers are much better at knowing the rate and level their children learn at than teachers. There are far too many kids who are never identified as gifted due to an enormous amount of factors in their lives and because some insist that only this test or only that test will tell. Many are gifted, yet have unidentified learning disabilities that could be overcome with the proper therapy and enable their gifts to shine through.

You ignored my son and his experience. Without a test, you apparently know nothing.

They stopped the test after three hours when they couldn't find his ceiling......then "labeled" him in the 99.9 percentile.

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170. Ok, the fact that it took you this long to come up with an answer
   
tells me all I need to know. I won't even get into your defensive rationalizations. Bottom line, you made that judgement call and have no definitive proof that your son is gifted. Period. But, that's 'ok.' We all think our children are 'exceptional.' No more to see here. Move on.

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152. Lady?
   
Assumptions and dated vocabulary.

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156. I see that my attempt to be cordial or polite is unappreciated. n/t

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158. simply recognized as condescending.

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161. Guilty. n/t

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2010, 06:01:18 PM »
I learned to read before I went to kindergarten back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.
Well, maybe not dinosaurs but Milkmen, Diaper Services and housecalling Doctors still did.  :-)
I could read a newspaper before I went to school, 5th grade readers in first grade and anything I wanted soon after. All because my momma mentioned one day that one of her friends son could read the paper in first grade. I took the bait challenge and began learning. No one encouraged me after Moms initial comment. She showed me how to look words up in the dictionary or the Funk & Wagnalls we owned and off I went. My inspiration came from all the adults telling me I couldn't do it while I knew damn well I was.

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2010, 06:25:52 PM »
How can I take someone with the username underpants seriously?

Depends  :rimshot:
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2010, 06:26:03 PM »
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147. "Teacher Colleges," per se, that did nothing but grant degrees
   
for teaching, went out in the fifties, Mam!!! I know of which I speak!
   
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155. Ok, lets argue semantics....
   
Mam?

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2010, 06:29:42 PM »
Depends  :rimshot:

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2010, 06:29:58 PM »
I learned to read before I went to kindergarten back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.
Well, maybe not dinosaurs but Milkmen, Diaper Services and housecalling Doctors still did.  :-)
I could read a newspaper before I went to school, 5th grade readers in first grade and anything I wanted soon after. All because my momma mentioned one day that one of her friends son could read the paper in first grade. I took the bait challenge and began learning. No one encouraged me after Moms initial comment. She showed me how to look words up in the dictionary or the Funk & Wagnalls we owned and off I went. My inspiration came from all the adults telling me I couldn't do it while I knew damn well I was.

I was much the same way.  Learned to read by playing on an old manual typewriter Mom had at the house, copying the words from books, catalogs, magazines, whatever I could get my hands on.

My oldest son had a US History teacher in 10th grade that was a first class asshole.  He relished in the fact of how many pupils he could flunk, not what he could teach them.  At a parent-teacher conference with him right before the end of year finals, he said that my son would flunk his class, and the only way he could see him passing is if he aced the final exam.  I asked him how many questions were on it, and from where he would get the questions.
200 questions, all taken from the end of the chapters of the textbook.  I reviewed all the material with my son over the course of 5 days, explaining to him what he didn't know, and adding my own "opinion" to what was in the textbook.

He made a 99.5% on the exam (only missed one question out of 200), passed for the year.  NO SOB OF A TEACHER WILL TELL ME MY CHILD CAN'T DO SOMETHING!   :redbird:
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Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Liberals are like Slinkys.  Basically useless, but they do bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
 
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2010, 06:35:06 PM »
severely gifted = code word for strange

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2010, 06:39:17 PM »
severely gifted = code word for strange

They were in the "special" program.
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Liberals are like Slinkys.  Basically useless, but they do bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
 
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2010, 06:45:05 PM »
'Tween you me an the fence post, how do you suppose the dummies reconcile factory day care facilities with other corporate entities?  Or what about the additional stress put upon young children to achieve at an early age thus depriving them of a normal childhood.  Dummies only smat when they face palm their forehead, rarely ever else.

Another point of interest, have you seen an infomercial on a young kids learning CD program?  I caught some of the blather one day but since we have no young ones I didn't really pay a lot of attention.  Seems like it had kids reading whole words and sentences at a very young age long before kindergarten.



I was watching a show last night, I think it was on TLC about smart kids. There was this one kid that supposedly had a higher IQ than Einstein (176 or something) and the mom had him over scheduled to the max. Let his sister play video games but would only let him play for a few minutes then make him go to his room and read. When he would get to play with kids his dad would quiz the kids with math equations, seriously...what kid is going to want to spend time with another kid and get pop quizzes from his parents every time?  The mom was worse than the dad. The kid is going to burn out long before he gets out of school. Letting kids be kids is just as important as fostering their intellect.

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2010, 06:46:48 PM »
severely gifted = code word for strange

Yeah, your point?  (derp!)
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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2010, 06:51:52 PM »
Yeah, your point?  (derp!)

Derp?   :-)

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2010, 06:55:06 PM »
BTW--this kid is "highly gifted" by DUmmy standards:

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Re: I am pretty underwhlelmed by kindergarten
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2010, 07:05:55 PM »
Speaking of DUers, did anyone see the show last night called "Born Schizophrenic"?