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Offline Chris_

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Chicago police target gang leaders
« on: August 29, 2010, 02:02:27 PM »
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Cops, feds meet with gang leaders

Chicago police and other law enforcement agencies have embarked on a pilot effort to stem the gang-related violence rattling through city neighborhoods by applying direct pressure on top gang leaders, officials said Saturday.

If a crime gets traced back to a member of a particular gang, Weis said during a Saturday news conference, investigators will "come down with every bit of firepower we have, every prosecutive trick we know."

Federal prosecutors told the gang members that they will use federal racketeering statutes to go after houses and other assets owned by them, other members or their families.

"They did not like the idea at all, because they realized something one of their colleagues may do could lead to a lot of pressure on them," Weis said. "That's what we tried to emphasize: This is group responsibility, group accountability. So you're a leader, you'd better influence your guys to behave."
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What took so long?
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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 02:06:52 PM »
Um, if they know who the gang leaders are, why can't they find something to charge them with?

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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 02:11:56 PM »
Gang leaders.......oh the politicians must be nervous, they lead the biggest  gangs in state! :uhsure:


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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 03:33:02 PM »
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What took so long?

I'll take, "Who ain't white?" for $500, Alex.

The answer being: Who are the members and who are the victims.
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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 10:55:10 PM »
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"They did not like the idea at all, because they realized something one of their colleagues may do could lead to a lot of pressure on them," Weis said. "That's what we tried to emphasize: This is group responsibility, group accountability. So you're a leader, you'd better influence your guys to behave."

What.The.****.Over?

I've been advocating this as policy in dealing with Islam for damned near a decade now.  How is it "okay" to deal thusly with one group of miscreants with the audacity to pit themselves against society, and yet completely unacceptable when dealing with a different set of miscreants who've had the audacity to pit themselves against society?  :banghead:
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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 09:37:29 AM »
The cops, the Feds and gang leaders had a "sit down"?!?! How cute! Did they have tea and crumpets as well!?!!?
Don't ask them to be law abiding citizens. TELL them to be law abiding citizens! :mental:

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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 10:24:08 AM »
Holy Shit! This actually happened?!?!?!?

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When Labar "Bro Man" Spann rolled into Garfield Park Conservatory in his wheelchair, he thought he was headed to a routine parole meeting.

Then, he saw Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis, other top law enforcement officials and the reputed leaders of several West Side street gangs.

The meeting, it turned out, was anything but routine.

The lawmen were there to deliver a message.

"They said they would get us if we don't stop the killing," Spann said.


Seriously???

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A police spokesman declined to comment on the under-the-public's-radar gathering, which was part of something called the Chicago Gang Violence Reduction Initiative.

"Every law enforcement agency was there to show we're on the same team," one law enforcement source said. "It's a new approach. We're telling these guys: 'You got to cut the violence -- or else. The first gang that kills somebody, we will go full barrel after your whole gang.' "

When one of those gangs is involved in a killing, sources said, authorities plan to make their leaders' lives miserable, doing everything from towing their cars for parking violations, to ramping up parole visits, to pulling them over repeatedly for traffic stops.




Gee, let's just get it on the public record that we are suspending Constitutional protections and engaging in an organized campaign of harassment against certain individuals based on their past or suspected criminal records. We certainly hope every officer involved in this public record disaster has their house in trust.

ATTENTION IDIOTS - There is a reason the United States of America has a public policy that it doesn't meet or negotiate with terrorists. It gives terrorists legitimacy. It gives them recognition. It gives them a seat at the table. What this meeting has done is grant the gangs exactly that. It is also a tacit admission (and don't think any of them missed it) that the Chicago Police Department isn't in control of the streets.

Someone get a mop - every bottom feeding lawyer in Cook County just started drooling so hard they passed out. But wait...it just got better!

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The subjects of Police Supt. Jody Weis' "Gang Meeting" are holding their own press conference with their lawyers to decry the fact they were forced to attend a meeting under the threat of a parole violation.

A group who claims to be made up of Chicago gang leaders says it is so angry about a threatened police crackdown it is going public. The so-called gang leaders have scheduled a news conference and even notified the media with a press release from a public relations firm.
It comes after police superintendent Jody Weis issued a warning to reputed gang leaders at a meeting last month.

As some elected officials criticize Weis for the meeting, some of the purported gang leaders are saying they were tricked into the meeting and have no plans to respond to what they call the superintendent's threats.

Wonderful. If true, this is going to be yet another nail in Weis' career coffin. Does anyone want to put a potential dollar amount on what a Cook County jury might award these poor former honor roll students for their troubles?

So basically, what we have here is the highest ranking law enforcement officer in Chicago trying to pull a Capt. Frank Furillo and calling a summit meeting with the shitstains that have basically declared war on the police and anyone else unfortunate enough to be in the way, during which Pizza Man (or J-Fled, as he is affectionately referred to by the rank-and-file) threatens said shitstains with all manner of drama, constitutional and otherwise.

BUT, this being the era of Hopeychange, the Age of the Unicorn, the Reign of the Mocha Messiah, these gangbanging urban terrorists take their cues from Eric (Von A-hole) Holder's Justice Department and go and hire themselves a fooking PR firm and hold a press conference to express their "dismay" at being taregeted for harassment!!!!

The unapologetic cretins even set up a website, for Christ's sake.



Hello Gator Bradley. And hello there officer associating with known felons, degenerates and possible murderer many times over.

Ya know what? Yeah, Los Angeles really does suck major ass sometimes, but considering that my birthplace now seems to be running red with the blood of slain police officers while the assholes responsible have the unmitigated temerity to stand up in front of a microphone bank and scream "RAA-CISTS!!!!," and the overpaid douchebag with a badge and gun who's supposed to be locking said assholes up for life only seems capable of enabling all of this, I'd say maybe LA isn't such a bad place to live, after all.

The only problem, of course, is that my mom still lives there in Humboldt Park. Good thing she owns a .357 and knows damn well how to use it.




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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 10:38:11 AM »
I just now realized that once again, I failed to catch something in the forum search and missed Chris' OP.

However, it's pretty obvious that he and I had entirely different takes on the matter, so I guess it's all good, right?  :-)

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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2010, 10:41:56 AM »
Yes, I missed the Hill Street Blues angle.  :rotf:
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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 10:47:09 AM »
Yes, I missed the Hill Street Blues angle.  :rotf:






They seemed a lot less dangerous WHEN EVERYONE KNEW THEY WERE PRETENDING!!!!  :banghead:

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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 11:19:55 AM »
Forfeitures are a tool but a dangerous one, when they start throwing grandmas out on the street because her thug grandsons spent the night there on the way to a crime, there's a big potential for the whole thing to backfire.  It'll be about as popular as the Israeli home demolition program was with the Palestinians, and for the same reason (Oh, and blessed be the name of Saint Pancake).   

Even aside from that issue of unintended consequences, there is something just plain wrong with the basic message.  The converse view of the whole bargain here is that it means that if the gang backs off the 'Ultr-violence,' the cops will back off their law enforcement effort.
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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2010, 01:37:18 PM »
We pay LE to put Grandma on the street and we, that taxpayers, end up supporting each of the thug grandsons for $50k a year or whatever it costs to keep them incarcerate them. What an expensive ending for the taxpayer. We have to change what we are doing. I'm thinking Judge Roy Bean now. Hang em then fine em.

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Re: Chicago police target gang leaders
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2010, 01:54:46 AM »
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U.S. Attorney: Arrests bid to hurt Chicago gangs

A push to dismantle violent, drug-dealing Chicago street gangs resulted in about 22 arrests in one day this week, a top U.S. prosecutor said Thursday amid criticism authorities are going at the menace of gangs the wrong way.

At the end of a 15-month investigation, police and federal agents swept into several neighborhoods in and near Chicago Wednesday to make the arrests on drug and gun charges; most were members of Gangster 2-6 Nation, including one of its high-ranking leaders, prosecutors said.

Other Chicago gangs include the Traveling Vice Lords and Four Corner Hustlers, and U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald told reporters at a Thursday news conference that other gangs also would be targeted in the months and years to come.
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Chicago gangs to top cop: You're not playing fair
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