Nadine knows historyAs most here know, I hold a special contempt for nadinbrzezinski. She hates America. She has always hated America. She can't even deny this. Yet, when she denied a Jew her place so she could get out of whatever communist hellhole she crawled out of, when she could have gone anywhere in the world her shriveled, spiteful, envious heart desired, she chose to come to America. She chose to become a citizen of the United States. No one, not a single person placed a gun to her head and made her do that. She chose to inflict herself on a country that she views as the most evil and the cause of all evils in the world.
Why did you do it, Nadine? Why did you come here? Answer me, coward.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:43 PM
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Ah my, I have never heard in my lifetime a business man
use extreme language.
Paraphrasing Rendel on the Ed Show.
Folks this is the problem, people did use extreme language back in the early years of FDR... hell they even planned a coup. But since we don't know our own history, it is repeating itself. And to tell the truth Obama is center right, by ANY objective measure... if we actually got an actual lefty elected... ooohh boy!
But this is exactly the problem in all it's glory. Americans DO NOT know their history and it damn ****ing shows!
A drunk businessman, even several drunk businessmen, that have no reason to like FDR talking about what to do over things to do about it,does not make a plot. Even the New York Times scoffed at Smedley's claim. No more than planning to take over the world using only a satellites and an empty pizza box is a plot.
hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:46 PM
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1. They know little of their own and even less of the rest of the world's history
Circle the world, hole dweller. The average man on the street in Cairo knows no more about US history than the average American knows about his country, maybe even slightly less.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:47 PM
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2. I'd be happy if people remembered what happened
in their own lifetime... at this point, as in this decade to be honest.
The very first world event that I remember is watching the Berlin wall fall live on TV. That was a sad day for you wasn't it, Nadine?
RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:47 PM
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3. Do you mean.
Americans do not know their own history, or the history of America?
Personally I think on my own history often, but know the 'history of America' depends whos view you read.
Perhaps it is because history is all you have. Conservatives do not wish their future to be taken away, liberals look to the past and think that is where they still remain.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:50 PM
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5. The history of this country
and as a professional historian working on labor history (talk about things we rather not talk about these days) I am painfully aware of how POV changes even the same event, and how to look at it.
But tell me, how many Americans do you know, even people with PhDs in history, who know of that attempted coup and Smedley Butlter?
Of course they should have been tried... but back then they walked... and their kids and grand kids are finishing the job as it were.
Labor history. Tell the truth Nadine, there was no “labor history†until immigrants started moving in the 1890s and started agitating for socialism. Were they all bad, no, many of them were just men and women who thought there were better ways of doing things, and that a man deserved a decent wage for his day of labor. There were others, many others, like you that thought capital and profit equalled slavery. But then, saying so greatly shortens your history effort does it not?
Smedley Butler? A hero. But his tale of a 500,000 man army marching on DC is as outlandish as it seems.
handmade34 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:49 PM
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4. +1
""Americans DO NOT know their history and it damn ****ing shows""
as a former Social Studies teacher... it makes me ill to see how ignorant we are
In other words, you are the handmaiden of fail. I guess you were too busy lamenting how evil we are to discuss history and government. How many other failures teach social studies?
mrmpa (112 posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:52 PM
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6. I can't agree with you more
I'm a history teacher. A few weeks ago I attended a friends' wedding. Sitting at my table were conservatives (I don't know how this happened). A couple were very angry that every state has 2 senators, since our state PA, has more people than Montana, they stated we should have more senators representing us, the people. If they knew history and government, they would understand the concept that those in the house of representatives, represent us the people and senators represent the interests of the state. Senator Byrd (God rest his soul) knew his role perfectly. Just look at the federal programs and jobs he brought to Pennsylvania.
Bounce, Bounce, Splat!
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-10 06:58 PM
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7. Just for people like that now I carry a copy of the Constitution
You carry a document, that you do not even believe, if you are to be believed. Hell, why don't you try to actually read that document. It is remarkably simple.
