DUmbasses Preparing for Climate Change Apocalypse

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

OP is excerpt from article about how busted the US political system is...it even busts Olbie and Maddow as part of the problem...and it uses climate change--formerly global warming--formerly global cooling--formerly population bomb--as the crux of its complaint that the US in incapable of acting in maeningful ways when confronted by "genuine" calamity.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8869989

n2doc  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-03-10 02:50 PM
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6. His message is vital 
 We need to be preparing for climate change. We will not get any help from our so called leadership. And I guarantee the ultra-rich are planning (at least the ones with any brains).

ProSense  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-03-10 03:02 PM
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12. "Well, the coup d’etat is over, and they won. We lost. And now we have to learn to cope with it."
 He can start by going to work for Sarah Palin. She loves to quit.

"And yet even then, it’s probably too late. If you read closely the science on global warming, it’s disrupting, even if we stop emissions, global warming will accelerate because of what has already been emitted. I think we have to begin to prepare for collapse, and if you want to survive, that’s going to mean access to a local food source. "

Don't forget the duct tape.

Sheesh!

Doctor_J  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-03-10 03:09 PM
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14. Yes. Finally a truth teller
 Hartmann said last week words to the effect of, "I like Hedges, but his writings are always so bleak and pessimistic. I like to stay positive".

We are not going to get out of this mess until we realize that Hedges' view is the much more realistic one at this point. I never miss Thom's program, but his daily calls to "go to your local party meeting (D or R)" are hopelessly naive.

Bonobo  (1000+ posts)      Tue Aug-03-10 03:38 PM
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20. This is why I have jumped ship basically.
 I sold my house, got out of debt and moved to an island.

We have fish and land to grow vegetables. We use kerosene for heat.

As long as the oceans don't rise too fast, we should be okay.

I am wondering where I can park my liquid assets so they don't get eaten up by bad investments. Any advice anyone? I wouldn't turn down 4-5% annual growth either.

bvar22  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-03-10 05:45 PM
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55. We "jumped ship" in 2006,
 but instead of an island, we moved deep into The Woods (Ouachita Mountains, AR) and planted a BIG Veggie Garden.
WE also raise Chickens and HoneyBees.
We have abundant clean Spring Water, are surrounded by National Forest, and plenty of Game.

Our only real concern if Health Care.
We really thought the Democrats would do something besides forcing everyone into the clutches of the Health Insurance Industry.
If we had known the "Democrats"(!) were going to sell us out the the Health Insurance Industry, we would have left the country.

Yavin4  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-03-10 05:30 PM
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52. There Is No Way To Prepare for an Environmental Apocalypse
 Nor a financial apocalypse either. Whatever food source that you find will soon be overrun by the maurading and starving masses desperate for survival.

And to this part, I say BULLSHIT:

We have to stop believing that we can effect change through established political or social organizations or electoral politics, and I think that still remains a huge hurdle for us people who in the end, through accommodation of fear and very clever advertising, are herded like sheep into a dysfunctional system, which is how so many people who should have known better voted for Obama.

Right there. That's one of the prime reasons why America is not as Progressive as European democracies. It's that ****ing self-defeatist, woe-is-me, constant state of depression attitude. Instead of actually organizing people on the ground, instead of working harder for change, we just give up and whine like babies.

It's not about Obama. Nor the Democrats. Nor the DLC. Nor the media. It's about us as a ****ing bunch of whiny idiots who fall into deep stages of depression at the ****ing drop of a hat.

Jonny (1 posts)      Tue Aug-03-10 06:21 PM
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79. Re:There Is No Way To Prepare for an Environmental Apocalypse
 Citizens have to try to effect change. Talking on web forums will not effect any change. I agree to that.

But, I see change all the time. It is not official and it does not come from government or voters. It comes from enterpreneurship and from consumers making a change.

There are a lot of green products and technologies and also organically and sustainably raised food products available now. A few years ago they weren't around. People are choosing to buy gas saving cars, locally produced food, and appliances that use less electricity. The pace of change is very slow, but there is change. Seek to accelerate this change with your own actions. Don't discourage this change by writing the depressing, demoralizing, and defeatist messages such ahs the one Chris Hedges has posted here. One might even think that Hedges is from the Right Wing Corporate group who writes here to demoralize us and slow us down.

Look at all the press coverage that the BP oil spill got? It literally was in every medium every day. The corporatists didn't stop the horrid visions of the results of oil additiction from reaching the populace. So now will the masses act on their believes by reducing their oil use and looking for alternatives? Some will. Others will not, and it will be their choice to do so, not becuase the full horror of an oil economy was witheld from them. It will be for other reasons (which I must refrain from elaborating on in a polite society).

[JohnnyReb]

We're screwed....the sun will come up tomorrow....we must stop it from rising.

[Chris_]

Is Bonobo a troll?  lol

Bonobo  (1000+ posts)      Tue Aug-03-10 03:38 PM
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20. This is why I have jumped ship basically.
 I sold my house, got out of debt and moved to an island.

We have fish and land to grow vegetables. We use kerosene for heat.

As long as the oceans don't rise too fast, we should be okay.

I am wondering where I can park my liquid assets so they don't get eaten up by bad investments. Any advice anyone? I wouldn't turn down 4-5% annual growth either.

[AllosaursRus]

Just a word of warning, DUmbass Morans, you even get close to me or mine and we'll be feedin' ya to the bears and the wolves in order to keep them on our side!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Hey, Ben the Bear, here's another snack for you and the Missus! Let me know when the kiddies are born and I'll increase the allocation!

Idiots!