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Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« on: July 21, 2010, 07:01:56 PM »
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Bluzmann57   (1000+ posts)             Wed Jul-21-10 07:52 PM
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A brief conversation with a freeper type at work today
   
Where I work, we are required to wear steel toed boots and the Union has bargained in an annual shoe allowance to make it easier to get said shoes. This year it is $150.00. Ok, not a lot, but it is appreciated and the guys can do whatever they want with the money. Buy shoes, drink beer, save it, whatever.

Anyway, when we got the checks, a guy started complaining about "Obama is taxing us to death", etc. Well lo and behold, there was no federal tax taken out of our boot checks! So I had to reply to the teabagger, freeper, whatever you want to call him, "Look, no federal tax taken out of our checks. Yep, Obama is taxing us to death all right. Looks like a tax CUT to me." The guy said, "Well, this check ain't very much anyway. Why should it be taxed?" I said, "It shouldn't and it isn't, except for Social Security and Medicare." Him, "Well, why should I pay that shit?" Me, "Well when you retire, it might be nice to have. Now you are paying in and when you get old, you can collect some of it back".

 He just shook his head as he walked away, muttering something about Obama, assholes and dirty liberals.
I just walked away too, secure in the knowledge that at least I tried. It likely won't change his mind, but at least I tried and I kept my cool, which I sometimes don't do.
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Taxes are the lowest they have been in 60 years.

Thanks to George Bush.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 07:09:31 PM »
$150?? That's a pair of Red Wings. 
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 07:14:19 PM »
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Bluzmann57   (1000+ posts)             Wed Jul-21-10 07:52 PM
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A brief conversation with a freeper type at work today...
   
...I said, "It shouldn't and it isn't, except for Social Security and Medicare." Him, "Well, why should I pay that shit?" Me, "Well when you retire, it might be nice to have. Now you are paying in and when you get old, you can collect some NONE of it back".


Fixed....

Now IF I had been allowed to invest what was extorted from me by the government in the name of Social Security for myself, I could retire TODAY and draw 3 times what SS would pay....

I could also pass what was left to my wife/kids, allow them to contribute to it as well, and my grandkids will have a very nice nestegg....

But, alas, it all goes back to "If a frog had wings...."
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 07:20:30 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on July 21, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
Fixed....

Now IF I had been allowed to invest what was extorted from me by the government in the name of Social Security for myself, I could retire TODAY and draw 3 times what SS would pay....

I could also pass what was left to my wife/kids, allow them to contribute to it as well, and my grandkids will have a very nice nestegg....

But, alas, it all goes back to "If a frog had wings...."

Only if you died this year like George Steinbrenner did, otherwise the government will take a lot of it.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 07:49:58 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on July 21, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
Fixed....

Now IF I had been allowed to invest what was extorted from me by the government in the name of Social Security for myself, I could retire TODAY and draw 3 times what SS would pay....

I could also pass what was left to my wife/kids, allow them to contribute to it as well, and my grandkids will have a very nice nestegg....

But, alas, it all goes back to "If a frog had wings...."

You and me both.

I get pissed off every year when I see what I've paid into SS since the 70's.  Since I've been self employed for about 15 of those years it's even worse.  I could easily retire right now with more income per month than I'm making if I was able to have merged that into my other retirement accounts.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 08:06:44 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on July 21, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
Fixed....

Now IF I had been allowed to invest what was extorted from me by the government in the name of Social Security for myself, I could retire TODAY and draw 3 times what SS would pay....

I could also pass what was left to my wife/kids, allow them to contribute to it as well, and my grandkids will have a very nice nestegg....
But, alas, it all goes back to "If a frog had wings...."

You bring up an excellent point here.  Imagine building generational wealth, and not just for rich white folk.  Dummies, how say you this??
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 08:41:35 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on July 21, 2010, 08:06:44 PM
You bring up an excellent point here.  Imagine building generational wealth, and not just for rich white folk.  Dummies, how say you this??

We could wish- but to some of the dummies, it wouldn't last past the weekly lotto.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 09:02:19 PM »
We get a 50.00/yr steel toed shoe allowance and that is with a private,non union company.
It is a nice gesture and one actually not that often claimed as a good pair will last quite a while and does not cost that much more.

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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 09:12:17 PM »
Carl, that is about the equivalent of what we get:  $25/year through work, but if we go to the local Red Wing, they offer an additional discount.  It also helps that the local Red Wing store contains about the nicest bunch of folks you could want to deal with. 

I am cheap, but going cheap on a pair of shoes I am going to be in all week is counterproductive. 


Also, I am 28, and willing to give up everything I have put into SS up until now, and promise to make no claims against SS when I retire, in exchange for no more mandatory deductions out of my paycheck. 

Suck on that one for a little, DUmmies.  Just because you are too ignorant to manage your retirement shouldn't mean the rest of us have to suffer because of your stupidity, and lack of planning.   

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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on July 21, 2010, 09:12:17 PM

Also, I am 28, and willing to give up everything I have put into SS up until now, and promise to make no claims against SS when I retire, in exchange for no more mandatory deductions out of my paycheck. 

Suck on that one for a little, DUmmies.  Just because you are too ignorant to manage your retirement shouldn't mean the rest of us have to suffer because of your stupidity, and lack of planning.   



Really, you can do that now?  I heard talk, but didn't know that was an option today!  I hope you find wise investments!   :cheersmate:
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 10:10:02 PM »
Quote from: JLO on July 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Really, you can do that now?  I heard talk, but didn't know that was an option today!  I hope you find wise investments!   :cheersmate:

I think he meant that he would like that option.  I know I would, and I'm 34.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2010, 10:15:52 PM »
Quote from: JLO on July 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Really, you can do that now?  I heard talk, but didn't know that was an option today!  I hope you find wise investments!   :cheersmate:

I wish that option was available.  As far as wise investments, can one make an investment that is any less wise than someone my age "investing" in SS?   :thatsright:
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2010, 10:21:56 PM »
Yeah Obama cut my taxes that extra $13 a week that he gave us all from his stash. Oh wait the tax rate stayed the same they just withheld less.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 10:31:48 PM »
Quote from: docstew on July 21, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
I think he meant that he would like that option.  I know I would, and I'm 34.


Oh -- I missed that.  so please excuse, but I am in the old pile.   ;-)
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 10:44:02 PM »
Well at least the location hasn't changed even if the white, dumb hick hasn't.

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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2010, 10:46:33 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 21, 2010, 07:01:56 PM
Federal taxes should have been taken out.

I agree, if it wasn't taken out it's still going to be reported as income to the worker and he'll have to pay later.  If it wasn't income, then why was SS and medicare taken out?

So the Bluzmann57 primitive is either lying through his teeth, or he's too stupid to realize he's going to have to eventually pay tax on the $150.  Could be either way.

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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 10:57:42 PM »
First, why would the company have agreed to such a stupid clause.  There is a reason most companies I know of tell their employees they can be reimbursed up to $150 a year for safety boots, upon presentation of the boots and receipt
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2010, 11:01:54 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on July 21, 2010, 10:57:42 PM
First, why would the company have agreed to such a stupid clause.  There is a reason most companies I know of tell their employees they can be reimbursed up to $150 a year for safety boots, upon presentation of the boots and receipt

DUmmys lie. All the time, DUmmies lie.

The normal way didn't work with his bouncy, so he had to make up something to make it sound plausible to the other DUmmies.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2010, 11:05:26 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on July 21, 2010, 10:57:42 PM
First, why would the company have agreed to such a stupid clause.  There is a reason most companies I know of tell their employees they can be reimbursed up to $150 a year for safety boots, upon presentation of the boots and receipt


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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2010, 08:16:36 AM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on July 21, 2010, 07:09:31 PM
$150?? That's a pair of Red Wings. 

Dude!  That is a pair of top of the line Made in America Steel Toe AND Shank Red Wings.  Well, it was 3 years ago at any rate.
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2010, 08:19:06 AM »
You guys get boot allowances?  Holy shit!
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 08:28:20 AM »
I wonder do Obama's Czars get a boot allowance or do they have to buy their own to apply to the neck of oil companies like BP?

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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2010, 08:35:47 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on July 22, 2010, 08:19:06 AM
You guys get boot allowances?  Holy shit!

I don't get a shoe allowance.  Or a uniform allowance.  This is bullshit.  Where's my freaking pony!!!!!
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 08:41:48 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 22, 2010, 08:35:47 AM
I don't get a shoe allowance.  Or a uniform allowance.  This is bullshit.  Where's my freaking pony!!!!!

We have a uniform service here.

Damn non union,private company that wants to keep good help. :banghead:
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Re: Follow the bouncing steel toed work boot
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 08:44:24 AM »
Quote from: Carl on July 22, 2010, 08:41:48 AM
We have a uniform service here.

Damn non union,private company that wants to keep good help. :banghead:

I was only joking around, Carl.  People who work in finance/accounting aren't members of unions and don't wear uniforms.  We also negotiate our own salaries and don't rely on unions to control us.
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