Anyone here a socialist of any stripe?

[Chris_]

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Ellen Forradalom  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:13 PM
Original message
Anyone here a socialist of any stripe?
 I am wondering why socialism of some sort isn't getting a renewed examination in the wake of the multiple capitalism-induced catastrophes (war, mortgage crisis, recession, offshoring and outsourcing, health care crisis, etc.) What's the state of socialism in America today? Does anyone have any experience with any of the socialist-flavored groups in the US (Democratic Socialists of America, Socialist Party USA, etc.)?

stimbox (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-21-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Some people still believe the Big Lie I guess. 
 The American people have been bombarded with anti-communist/socialist propaganda since the October Revolution of 1917, so it's understandable.

Yeah, the Big Lie that communism is a glorious utopia. We never fell for that, you did.

ayeshahaqqiqa  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:17 PM
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4. I think a socialist government works best
 but I have no experience with socialist parties per se.

I think a socialist government works best in the trash, but that's just me.

glowing  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:44 PM
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15. I see socialism as more of a Utopian society where everyone is equal.
 Everyone finds their "calling" and expounds on it because of their desire to exceed at what they do... However, I doubt that many would find a calling in picking up trash or working for the sewer. And I'm not sure how long any project would take, like roads or buildings.. I would assume in a socialistic model, people would tend to want to work less, and take more time with their families. AND would the farmer get up at the crack of dawn everyday to grow food and tend to livestock? I don't know.

(snip)

You just can't argue with that kind of stupidity.



 

[Chris_]

Mika (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-22-08 03:00 PM
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50. Too bad our government bans us from going to Cuba to see what's going on there.
 Most Americans have to rely on knee jerk down the memory hole US gov/media anti Cuba propaganda.

I've been there many time and Cuba is nothing like the brutal dictatorship US propaganda describes.

How does this mouth-breathing moron even function?

 

[Attero Dominatus]

I think a socialist government works best in the trash, but that's just me.

Socialism does indeed belong In The Trash. I agree.

[dandi]

She's asking that at The Hive? Might as well go to Stormfront and say, "Hey, any one here hate Jews?"

[Chris_]

She's asking that at The Hive? Might as well go to Stormfront and say, "Hey, any one here hate Jews?"

What's the difference between DU and Stormfront anyway.

[Attero Dominatus]

She's asking that at The Hive? Might as well go to Stormfront and say, "Hey, any one here hate Jews?"

What's the difference between DU and Stormfront anyway.

Only the names of their sites.

[Uhhuh35]

DUmmie_stimbox (1000+ posts)     
8. Some people still believe the Big Lie I guess.
 The American people have been bombarded with anti-communist/socialist propaganda since the October Revolution of 1917, so it's understandable.

DUmmies don't know Americas history. In fact communism and socialism were gaining in popularity from the Wilson administration onward through WWII. Many elite commentators and thinkers were pro communist using the Soviet model as an example. The used the stock market crash as a reason capitalism won't work. And now the left trots out the same reasoning: Stock market, Home Loans, etc...
Attention Lurking DUmmies: Could you start reading books please? Just because you received the worst education of any industrialized nation, that doesn't give you an excuse to be stupid your whole life.

[md11hydmec]

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Ellen Forradalom  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:13 PM
Original message
Anyone here a socialist of any stripe?
 I am wondering why socialism of some sort isn't getting a renewed examination in the wake of the multiple capitalism-induced catastrophes (war, mortgage crisis, recession, offshoring and outsourcing, health care crisis, etc.) What's the state of socialism in America today? Does anyone have any experience with any of the socialist-flavored groups in the US (Democratic Socialists of America, Socialist Party USA, etc.)?

stimbox (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-21-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Some people still believe the Big Lie I guess. 
 The American people have been bombarded with anti-communist/socialist propaganda since the October Revolution of 1917, so it's understandable.

Yeah, the Big Lie that communism is a glorious utopia. We never fell for that, you did.

ayeshahaqqiqa  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:17 PM
Response to Original message
4. I think a socialist government works best
 but I have no experience with socialist parties per se.

I think a socialist government works best in the trash, but that's just me.

glowing  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:44 PM
Response to Original message
15. I see socialism as more of a Utopian society where everyone is equal.
 Everyone finds their "calling" and expounds on it because of their desire to exceed at what they do... However, I doubt that many would find a calling in picking up trash or working for the sewer. And I'm not sure how long any project would take, like roads or buildings.. I would assume in a socialistic model, people would tend to want to work less, and take more time with their families. AND would the farmer get up at the crack of dawn everyday to grow food and tend to livestock? I don't know.

(snip)

You just can't argue with that kind of stupidity.



 

Yes you can, but they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience......MD

[Bondai]

glowing  (1000+ posts)       Fri Mar-21-08 09:44 PM
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15. I see socialism as more of a Utopian society where everyone is equal.
 Everyone finds their "calling" and expounds on it because of their desire to exceed at what they do... However, I doubt that many would find a calling in picking up trash or working for the sewer. And I'm not sure how long any project would take, like roads or buildings.. I would assume in a socialistic model, people would tend to want to work less, and take more time with their families. AND would the farmer get up at the crack of dawn everyday to grow food and tend to livestock? I don't know.

The one thing you were right about.....

[DumbAss Tanker]

She's asking that at The Hive? Might as well go to Stormfront and say, "Hey, any one here hate Jews?"

What's the difference between DU and Stormfront anyway.

Only the names of their sites.

Not entirely, DU is the place for the GAY Jew-baiters to congegate.  Stormfront hates gays, too.

[Schadenfreude]

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. They just don't get the fact that socialism and communism is a dead end street.

[Carl]

I would assume in a socialistic model, people would tend to want to work less, and take more time with their families. AND would the farmer get up at the crack of dawn everyday to grow food and tend to livestock? I don't know.

You just explained in a nutshell why it can never work nor even attempt to exist except at sword point.

Of course that is the pearls before swine thing as it relates to DU.

[Lord Undies]

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. They just don't get the fact that socialism and communism is a dead end street.

What the little turdbrains don't follow through to realization is that the only way socialism exists anywhere is by the grace of capitalism (read: USA) and its ability to subsidize such foolery.  Europe would be a much different place today if it had actually had to pay for its own defense these last 65 years.   

[Lord Undies]

I would assume in a socialistic model, people would tend to want to work less, and take more time with their families. AND would the farmer get up at the crack of dawn everyday to grow food and tend to livestock? I don't know.

You just explained in a nutshell why it can never work nor even attempt to exist except at sword point.

Of course that is the pearls before swine thing as it relates to DU.

Socialism withholds reward, which starves ambition, which kills the spirit, which destroys the soul, which rots the body, which stinks up the house that (Uncle) Sam built.

[Rebel]

Mika (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-22-08 03:00 PM
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50. Too bad our government bans us from going to Cuba to see what's going on there.
 Most Americans have to rely on knee jerk down the memory hole US gov/media anti Cuba propaganda.

I've been there many time and Cuba is nothing like the brutal dictatorship US propaganda describes.

How does this mouth-breathing moron even function?

 

Easy to see how "great" it is in Cuba:

http://www.therealcuba.com/

Gee, what an AWESOME place. 

[Chris_]

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. They just don't get the fact that socialism and communism is a dead end street.

What the little turdbrains don't follow through to realization is that the only way socialism exists anywhere is by the grace of capitalism (read: USA) and its ability to subsidize such foolery.  Europe would be a much different place today if it had actually had to pay for its own defense these last 65 years.   

H5!

Except for the fact that most of these idiots are too stupid to realize who and what they are, I am floored that this question was actually posted, and the whole damned lot of 'em didn't put up their hands in acknowledgement.

[Chris_]

There is a young self proclaimed socialist on another board I frequent who has (supposedly) joined the US Marine Corps. I once opined that not mentioning his socialism would be of benefit to him, and was warned by a mod for it...