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Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« on: June 26, 2010, 06:14:49 PM »
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The secretive whisteblowing website WikiLeaks said Friday night that its founder, Julian Assange, had hired private criminal defense lawyers to represent the 22-year-old Army intelligence specialist accused of providing WikiLeaks with highly classified combat videos from Iraq and Afghanistan.

But Birgitta Jonsdottir, a parliamentarian in Iceland who acts as a spokeswoman for the website, said in a telephone interview from Reykjavik that the Pentagon had refused this week to allow the lawyers to meet the Army intel analyst, Bradley Manning.

“I haven’t seen it myself,” Jonsdottir said of the new video. But she said she understood it was “horrible” because “there are so many children being massacred.”

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 06:38:30 PM »
In the military, aren't all the lawyers in the service?

Just what they need, moonbats defending someone who has released classified documentation!

We can only hope this guy didn't get somebody killed releasing the info! If so, a firing squad is too good for him!

Oh yeah, FOAD DUmmies! There's a frikkin' reason it's called classified intel! ****in' degenerates!
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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 06:44:00 PM »
In the military, aren't all the lawyers in the service?

Just what they need, moonbats defending someone who has released classified documentation!

We can only hope this guy didn't get somebody killed releasing the info! If so, a firing squad is too good for him!

Oh yeah, FOAD DUmmies! There's a frikkin' reason it's called classified intel! ****in' degenerates!

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 06:59:46 PM »
http://www.oldelmtree.com/discussion/index.php?topic=9129.0


This site for DU refugees is really quite the psychosis center isn't it?    You could start a forum just for these freakshows alone.



I am inclined to wonder if that is a good idea as the real freaks of the left get sifted off.
Perhaps the DUmpster should be expanded to other places more then it is now.

Or a child board for "other places" be created leaving the postings at the DUmp intact.

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 07:08:48 PM »
I am inclined to wonder if that is a good idea as the real freaks of the left get sifted off.
Perhaps the DUmpster should be expanded to other places more then it is now.

Or a child board for "other places" be created leaving the postings at the DUmp intact.

That reminds me. I need to take another trip to the Ronulan home world pretty soon.
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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 07:52:21 PM »
Or a child board for "other places" be created leaving the postings at the DUmp intact.

The primitives are just the typical mindless lib sheep doing what they're told.  These OETers are so far beyond the average idiot liberal that even Skin's didn't want them.  I'd go along with a separate forum for them, but we need a name that denotes them as being the immature ex-primitives that they are.

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 09:05:19 PM »
The primitives are just the typical mindless lib sheep doing what they're told.  These OETers are so far beyond the average idiot liberal that even Skin's didn't want them.  I'd go along with a separate forum for them, but we need a name that denotes them as being the immature ex-primitives that they are.

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 11:59:48 PM »
In the military, aren't all the lawyers in the service?

Just what they need, moonbats defending someone who has released classified documentation!

We can only hope this guy didn't get somebody killed releasing the info!

A Solider under charges is allowed to retain civilian counsel of his choice at his own expense, in addition to detailed military defense counsel.  However that is not the same thing as some organization hiring an attorney and sending him to meet with the Soldier, whom he is not necessarily representing at trial.

The problem with videos like this is first, actually explaining them into full context usually involves compromising further classified information, and second they are tremendous recruiting and motivational tools for our enemies.  The little shit needs to be stuffed in a duffle bag and given a terminal beat-down with pickaxes.
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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 12:12:03 AM »
The problem with videos like this is first, actually explaining them into full context usually involves compromising further classified information, and second they are tremendous recruiting and motivational tools for our enemies.  The little shit needs to be stuffed in a duffle bag and given a terminal beat-down with pickaxes.

I've found the antics of WikiLeaks pretty darn entertaining for awhile and doing an honestly needed service at times.  However, I'm really torn on this video.  By all accounts of everyone who's seen it, it's an absolutely indescribably gruesome video of American weaponry on children.  Open transparency is important, and accidents do happen in war, but even if it were possible to put context to the event (which I surely doubt); that film would serve as such a powerful recruiting tool for the terror organizations as to be indescribable.    :(

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 01:37:58 AM »
I've found the antics of WikiLeaks pretty darn entertaining for awhile and doing an honestly needed service at times.  However, I'm really torn on this video.  By all accounts of everyone who's seen it, it's an absolutely indescribably gruesome video of American weaponry on children.  Open transparency is important, and accidents do happen in war, but even if it were possible to put context to the event (which I surely doubt); that film would serve as such a powerful recruiting tool for the terror organizations as to be indescribable.    :(
Tough shit!!

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The tragedy is NOT "American weaponry on children"! Your bullshit ends here and now! Our military does NOT set missions with the directive being targeting children so stop the disingenuous accusations that they do so.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 01:46:09 AM »
IIRC, traitors were executed by hanging.  That's the way to deal with them.  Publically--then leave the body up for two or three days, until the crows have given it a good working-over.

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 01:54:51 AM »
Tough shit!!

Note to self: "Don't bring your children to a war!"
The tragedy is NOT "American weaponry on children"! Your bullshit ends here and now! Our military does NOT set missions with the directive being targeting children so stop the disingenuous accusations that they do so.

I'm not sure what you're railing against or calling bs.  I wasn't implying that our military targets children, I stated that accidents happen in war.  Our own government has apologized over the incident, the US Military has admitted that mistakes were made there, and around 92 children were killed.  I'm not sure how you could state that the Afghan populace brought their children to war, considering that this was an airstrike on a village.  Awhile back Petraeus himself even mentioned that the video should be released along with a video showing why the strike was needed, albeit they did not know so many children were there.  

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Golda Meir said it best: "There will be peace in the middle east when Arabs love their children as much as Israelis do.

That's always been one hell of an alarming quote, which likely holds quite a bit of truth also.  Granted, Afghans are not Arabs.

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2010, 01:59:28 AM »
I'm not sure what you're railing against or calling bs.  I wasn't implying that our military targets children, I stated that accidents happen in war.  Our own government has apologized over the incident, the US Military has admitted that mistakes were made there, and around 92 children were killed.  I'm not sure how you could state that the Afghan populace brought their children to war, considering that this was an airstrike on a village.  Awhile back Petraeus himself even mentioned that the video should be released along with a video showing why the strike was needed, albeit they did not know so many children were there.
Then why did YOU fracking bring it up, dwell on it, and showcase it?

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That's always been one hell of an alarming quote, which likely holds quite a bit of truth also.  Granted, Afghans are not Arabs.

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Like I already said, don't bring your children to a war,

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2010, 02:07:18 AM »
Get a new game boy, I'll eat your lunch..

My apologies, but I think you'd be better off skipping lunch and working on your reading comprehension. 

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2010, 07:52:11 AM »
How 'bout DIpshitDIrtbags.com?

LOL.  That's a start.

The history of these off-shoot sites from Skin's island are not promising.  They generally buzz for a while as the recently walking dead and/or self imposed castaways have no where else to go.  But then they slowly fizzle down to a basic few who argue and gripe among themselves and the others bounce around from site to site, give up altogether, or create a new persona at the DUmp and fall into line in order to have a home.  OET will be no different.

The DUmp at least has some rollover.  Give it a year or two and even the Dear Leader cheerleaders will be shown the door by Skins and there'll be a new crop of kooks to take their place.

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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2010, 08:24:07 AM »
I'm not sure what you're railing against or calling bs.  I wasn't implying that our military targets children, I stated that accidents happen in war.  Our own government has apologized over the incident, the US Military has admitted that mistakes were made there, and around 92 children were killed.  I'm not sure how you could state that the Afghan populace brought their children to war, considering that this was an airstrike on a village.  Awhile back Petraeus himself even mentioned that the video should be released along with a video showing why the strike was needed, albeit they did not know so many children were there.  


The way I look at it, those 92 dead children are 92 less future terrorist we will have to kill later....

The purpose of war is "to KILL people and to BREAK things".  If they are shooting at you, or in an area that you are taking fire from, damn the PR and level the place!  Those children were not killed because they were in the "wrong place at the wrong time."  They were right where they needed to be for a maximum PR response against the US.

Tough shit, I say.  The men are too cowardly to fight straight up, only from behind skirts (or burkas) and cribs.  I say shoot back anyway.  Killing the fighter AND the shield is a "twofer"....
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2010, 08:24:47 AM »
A Solider under charges is allowed to retain civilian counsel of his choice at his own expense, in addition to detailed military defense counsel.  However that is not the same thing as some organization hiring an attorney and sending him to meet with the Soldier, whom he is not necessarily representing at trial.

The problem with videos like this is first, actually explaining them into full context usually involves compromising further classified information, and second they are tremendous recruiting and motivational tools for our enemies.  The little shit needs to be stuffed in a duffle bag and given a terminal beat-down with pickaxes.

You're being too nice.  I would have doused the bag in gasoline and set it on fire first.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2010, 08:40:43 AM »
You're being too nice.  I would have doused the bag in gasoline and set it on fire first.

Make sure that there's a camera rolling. :fuelfire:

It will discourage others from doing this.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2010, 09:06:11 AM »
You're being too nice.  I would have doused the bag in gasoline and set it on fire first.

To quote a line from the movie "Heavy Metal":

"Hanging's too good for him!  Burning's too good for him!  He should be torn into little, bitty pieces and buried ALIVE!"

Oh, and make sure a camera is rolling to film the entire episode....
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Re: Obama's massacre. Children,Cover-up
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2010, 04:10:04 AM »
The way I look at it, those 92 dead children are 92 less future terrorist we will have to kill later....


That is beyond sick..

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 08:17:54 AM »
That is beyond sick..

You've got to admit, as soon as most of those kids hit the madrasses, they're as good as gone.
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 11:51:08 AM »
That is beyond sick..

If the evil bastards didn't hide behind skirts and children it wouldn't happen at all. Maybe sick, but it is not us who are sick.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 12:25:47 PM »
'Nits make lice' is a moral low-ground approach.  The US does not INTENTIONALLY target children, but if there are children present, neither does that mean the fire mission is necessarily cancelled either.  It's a judgment on collateral damage that depends on the target, the mission, and the quality of the intelligence (To include even knowing whether there are kids on the target).  That's why we have ROEs, and that's why there are consequences to breaking them.
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 12:39:15 PM »
'Nits make lice' is a moral low-ground approach.  The US does not INTENTIONALLY target children, but if there are children present, neither does that mean the fire mission is necessarily cancelled either.  It's a judgment on collateral damage that depends on the target, the mission, and the quality of the intelligence (To include even knowing whether there are kids on the target).  That's why we have ROEs, and that's why there are consequences to breaking them.

Oh, I'm absolutely sure the DUmbasses believe we target children! Their idea of ROE's is we kill anything that moves within sight!

I still remember where Special Ops were discovered by a goat herder and his son and let them go. Can't remember how many we lost for bein' the good guys on that one!

Of course the DUmmies figured we deserved as we "invaded" their country! ****in' traitors!
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 02:42:54 PM »
If it's Gulf I you're talking about, I believe the answer is it actually saved their bacon, the Iraqis ended up capturing them and it probably wouldn't have gone over real big if they had left a trail of civilian bodies beforehand.  The goat herder led the Iraqis to them, but the hunt was on for special ops teams and chances are pretty good they Iraqis would have caught up with them eventually.  The Coalition launched some remarkably ill-conceived spec ops missions in Gulf I, and not against the will of the operators either.  The boundless confidence of spec operators is not always justified and they tend to need a lot of adult supervision.   
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