Muddled Memes: GOP Ideas

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

First, we were told the GOP had no ideas to contribute to the ObamaCoup agenda.

Then, we were told the GOP only had BAD ideas that weren't worth listening to.

Now that ObamaCoup has passed with 100% democrat chicanery but it is still sucking hind tit in all the polls Obambi needs to get out from under it. His solution is to claim his plan is the same as the RomneyCare plan with ideas lifted straight off the frontpage of Heritege Foundation website.

In swoop the DUmbasses to crow and hoot that this bill is 100% GOP and if it sucks it is the GOPs fault...

sabra  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-30-10 05:21 PM
Original message
Heritage fires back at Obama   
 Source: MSNBC

From NBC's Mark Murray
In his interview with NBC's Matt Lauer on "TODAY," President Obama used the conservative Heritage Foundation as an example of how the health-care law has incorporated GOP and conservative ideas.

(W)hen you actually look at the bill itself, it incorporates all sorts of Republican ideas. I mean, a lot of commentators have said, you know, this is sort of similar to the bill that Mitt Romney, the Republican governor and now presidential candidate, passed in Massachusetts. A lot of the ideas in terms of the exchange, just being able to pool and improve the purchasing power of individuals in the insurance market. That originated from the Heritage Foundation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4326037

Deep13  (1000+ posts)      Tue Mar-30-10 05:22 PM
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1. "...it incorporates all sorts of Republican ideas..."
 We will refer to these sections as the crappy parts of the law.

DJ13 (1000+ posts)      Tue Mar-30-10 05:24 PM
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2. That doesnt leave much to talk about

huh?

emulatorloo (1000+ posts)      Tue Mar-30-10 05:33 PM
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3. oooooh, Heritage Foundation, so big and scary. So horribly credible too.
 LOL

You doubt, Obama?

RACIST!

defendandprotect  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-30-10 06:01 PM
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5. Heritage is more right wing elite funded opinion . . . 
 all astroturf -- all from the same rw elite source --

But Obama says he's using their ideas.

pattmarty (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-30-10 06:20 PM
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11. The Heritage foundation is a ****ing RW propaganda organization.............
 ..............Everyone that has posted so far has forgotten one simple thing while praising the bill. You are defending a "republican" bill, for christ sake. It's like any one of us getting involved in a tea party, what do you think they would say to you and how would you be treated? Answer: Just like the Heritage foundations statement. We can say the sky is blue and it's not raining and ALL the RW would ****ing disagree with us using bullshit "technicalities" and shouting longer and louder than us. **** all these people.
Education is the key to the worlds problems

See, this guy gets it.

socialist_n_TN (28 posts)      Tue Mar-30-10 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Incremental progress is all you'll get...................
 with the current corporatist Senate. Elect more progressives/socialists to the Senate and you'll see quicker change and more progressive legislation enacted. It's a long haul thing.

pattmarty (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-30-10 07:21 PM
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17. Very, very, very long haul. My opinion is this country will never be........
 ..........like even the more conservative European countries. Hell, a conservative in Germany or Italy would be a reincarnation of Bernie Sanders over here. That's how reactionary this country is. I was talking to my wife about maybe moving to Spain (cheaper than "most" European countries), but we have kids here (grown) and she doesn't want to leave. So that's where my head's at now.

Your kids are in your ass?

TrollBuster9090 (73 posts)     Tue Mar-30-10 06:44 PM
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13. This has traction, and we should play it up. GIN THIS UP!
 Obamacare is very similar to A) Romneycare in Mass, B) The 1993 Republican "alternative" to Hilarycare, and C) The proposals from the Heritage foundation that the Republican alternative plan was drafted from.

Progressives already know that most of the progressive ideas were stripped from Obamacare in order to make the plan more CENTRIST to appeal to moderates. That move to the center cost progressive support, BUT IT DID NOT GAIN the CENTRIST support that it deserved BECAUSE THE CENTRIST PARTS OF THE PLAN DIDN'T GET ANY MEDIA ATTENTION. We need to make sure that it does, by drawing attention to the fact that this plan is similar to Romneycare, the 1993 GOP plan, and the Heritage Foundation's recommendations.

WE CAN DO THIS BY FUELING THE FIGHT BETWEEN OBAMA AND THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION. Since the press isn't interested in anything but ratings-grabbing conflict, if we generate enough controversey over a fight between Obama and the Heritage Foundation, MAYBE a few lazy-assed reporters will ACTUALLY BOTHER TO COMPARE THE DETAILS of the two plans.

If it is so wonderful why not own it all yourselves?

You're obviously not trolling for GOP support because you've already branded them racists who will oppose it regardless just because some half-not-white guy thought of this brilliant brilliancy first.

Unless you want to play this up to reinfornce the racism charge.

SpartanDem  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-30-10 06:46 PM
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14. Yeah regulation and standardization such horrible things
 it not like the insurance industry needed it.

Weird...I was thinking the EXACT same thing.

Only it was about the government.

amb123  (621 posts)     Tue Mar-30-10 06:58 PM
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16. "or he ought to learn before he speaks"?
 President Obama IS NOT A FIVE YEAR OLD you f**king simpleton!

I just calls 'em the ways I sees 'em.

[JohnnyReb]

Just like a DUmmie....using ideas that have already proven to be a failure.

[Chris]

Barry is full of shit and a liar looking to pawn his failure off to someone else.

The President has made a habit of using conservative talking points when trying to sell a liberal ideology because he knows that this is a center-right country that rejects his agenda when articulated honestly. His supporters have even tried to pin the blame of the potentially unconstitutional individual mandate on us. This approach brushes over the details of our research and ignores our ability to evolve past further developed research.

Over 16,000 new IRS agents will be hired by the government to enforce the President’s mandate on the American people. The President’s health care plan also raises premiums, taxes, and costs while lowering quality, and expanding Medicaid. These are not conservative ideas.

And let’s be clear, these are not ideas Heritage has ever, or would ever, support.

We made every effort over the past year to share our ideas for better health care reform with the President and members of both parties in Congress, but were not invited behind the closed doors. Now, after the bill is signed, it seems the President wishes we were along for the ride. We were not. We remain fervently opposed to the President’s partisan plan, and urge its immediate repeal. This is not common politics, it’s common sense.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/30/heritage-president-ed-feulner-responds-to-president-obama%E2%80%99s-claims/